01 Jun 2015 13:30:17
Re DE Gea leaving. let's assume he is leaving. I so maybe he and his agent are being decent and not saying so to allow a replacement to be acquired quietly.

1.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 14:28:47
That could well be the situation, perhaps United have asked to hold back any confirmation until a replacement is found and i'd imagine the price of the replacement would be increased if De Gea was confirmed to be leaving.

2.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 14:59:10
Serious? You don't think the selling club will suspect haha

3.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 15:26:03
Weggy. I think the whole of world football will know of we're going after a keeper then that means ddg is leaving and the price will go up.
My view on ddg is that we invested a lot of money in a young untried keeper and for the past five years has turned into one of the best keepers in the world. This is mainly due to the excellent coaching and management he's received at United.
So for him not to sign a contract is ridiculous, he could sign the contract, stay another couple of seasons and then he can move to Madrid where he will be lambasted for every small mistake he makes but it will give United the chance to get his true monetary value.
That's the least he owes the club.

4.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 15:42:07
I agree NoMidfield!

I understand Spain is his home but for what we have done for him this past 4 seasons have been great.

The mass support he received through his first two seasons was massive and if he throws that back at us I'd be gutted.

But at the end of the day a majority of Spanish players will always use other clubs as a stepping stone to get to Madrid or Barcelona.

I will also be furious if we break-even on him, we deserve so much more for him and if Madrid are playing hard ball I'd rather keep him another year and let leave on the free.

5.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 15:46:51
He owes the club nothing nomidfield, stop being so absurd.

6.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 16:03:08
No mid,

Lets look at it from the other angle though. We signed Ddg who has improved drastically over the last 2 seasons and now merits a far higher wage than what he's on. If we valued him as highly as we should why did we not offer him an improved deal when he had 2 years left rather than 1?

You should never allow one of your top players contract run down to 1 year remaining. I can only imagine that it was a money saving risk, one which has backfired.

Loyalty works both ways, whilst you feel he's not showing us any now he may feel the club didn't show him loyalty after last season's much improved performances and only 2 years left on his original deal.

7.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 16:26:39
Anon, you say he owes the club nothing? What are you smoking fella! David De Gea is now one of thee worlds BEST goalkeepers! Why? BECAUSE OF MANCHESTER UNITED!!! Real Madrid don't buy average or the norm, because they only want the best! We took the punt and made him the best! Owes us nothing, he owes us everything! Born in Madrid, MADE in Manchester!!!

8.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 16:36:57
Let's look at it with out the sentimental nonsense, and as the business football has become.

David was hired by an English company and given a contract for a set number of years. The company hired him because they believed that they could profit from hiring him, they provided him with high quality training and management because it would aid their goal of boosting profits, and treated him well because he was a valuable employee. Now David is wanted by a more successful company who operate in Spain, David's country of birth where his family and girlfriend still live. David can choose to sign a new contract with his existing company and risk missing out on moving back to Spain, or he can refuse to sign a contract allowing the Spanish company to buy out the remaining year.

Don't try to affix the former sentimentality of football when it was still a club sport on the current context. De Gea doesn't own the ManU corporation anything, we're talking about an employee who was hired to increase a business's profits (which he has) deciding on where he wants to work.

9.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 18:26:11
ddg is one of the best goal keepers in world because of ddg.
he has the ability and dedication .
he is just an employee of the club .

10.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 19:01:59
he put the effort in to get to where he is today, I'm sure he would have had the exact same path had he stayed at Athletico, he's a massive talent, yes TALENT. We didn't give him some sort of drug to make him what he is today, him putting his head down and ignoring all the hate from the fickle fans who wanted him out for the likes of Lindegaard. He owes us nothing, I'm just grateful he's played for the club and had success under us.

11.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 19:34:10
Danny and Anon. While I agree that sentimentality and business should not mix, I think most owners/managers get some sort of loyalty from their employees. I know that most of my employees give me this loyalty. In addition, on the few occasions when one of our employees had received a better offer of employment, they came to see my management team to discuss. They didn't sit there for three months not telling us if they're going or staying!! So I'm afraid what you're saying might be what you think but it is certainly not how business works.

12.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 19:38:10
Precisely Danny.

He owes us little to nothing in real terms. We've been paying him a wage, he's returned that by keeping the ball out of the net. We failed to reward his improvement before this season and have been left in a tricky position with little security (1 year). If we wanted him on a longer contract we should have made it happen 12 to 18 months ago Imo.

The ball is firmly in his court and as Ed002 says players are merely transient employees, which Woodward etc. will have realised all along, while his contract has been left to run down.

I wonder if the tables were turned and we were picking up a player on the cheap due to length of contract, would our fans feel so bad for the selling team?

13.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 20:02:10
Nomid, and you know that DDG hasn't told the board whether he is staying or going how?

14.) 01 Jun 2015
01 Jun 2015 21:46:37
Nomid, your rationale is way off. De Gea has obviously discussed this with the manager and the suits. They're well aware of the situation, and that he has to seriously consider moving back to Spain. As LVG said, De Gea will make the decision for himself.

But what you're saying is something completely different. You're saying that it's disgraceful that an employee hasn't signed a new contract because they have received top quality on the job training that has helped them become better at their profession. In any business that is ludicrous. Employees are not tied to company, regardless of the their training. They are tied to their contract and have every right not to extend their contract.

As HB says, we have no such expectations when we're the buying team. Do you think that Depay should have just stayed at PSV and signed a new contract because he owes them? It's a nonsense attitude to have. Players work hard at their jobs, so they can secure the best possible job for them, be it in terms of money, trophies or location. The idea that top class players owe something to the club, when the clubs in question are multi-million pound businesses who invest in players for the sole reason of profit is just silly.

{Ed025's Note - good post that danny mate..

15.) 02 Jun 2015
02 Jun 2015 00:34:23
That's that put to bed then!