31 Aug 2014 15:37:41
Reading that the fee for kagawa is 6.8 million. The fees received have been ridiculous although it hasn't worked out for him he is still a class act. Even 2.25 mil for bebe who scored 14 league goals in the Portuguese top division seems very low. Mata wasn't wanted at Chelsea and they still managed to get a ridiculous amount of money for him. Makes you wonder what goes on behind the scenes at our club.

1.) 31 Aug 2014
I've been thinking about that for years our players always leave cheap I mean if that's right about kagawa that is a joke less than 7 million

2.) 31 Aug 2014
Desperation as far as Mata was concerned.

As for Kagawa, he's surplus to requirements, which puts us in a weak position - it's not like he's lit up the stage. Obviously there were no better offers. Console yourself that the club will save another 5m a year in salary costs.

Whether it's the player or the system, a player who has ceased to perform at the top level, whether by lack of opportunity or ineffectiveness, has little perceived value.

I made the point last year about how little our squad was worth on the open market compared to our rivals.
Excluding the new signings, other than de Gea and Janusaj who could we sell for more than 20m?

3.) 31 Aug 2014
Peashooter - Both Di Maria and Mata were surplus to requirements and yet between the two of them we probably paid close to double what they are worth.

Kagawa is a very good and very marketable player. £6.8m is a joke. I'd rather keep him than sell for anything less than £18m.

4.) 31 Aug 2014
Rooney in this market would go for over 40 million.

5.) 31 Aug 2014
We seem to hang to players for a long time and they tend to eventually be sold when their stock has fallen within the club and externally.

Our wage structure also makes it hard to shift some of these guys, I mean who is going to pay cleverly 70k a week when you have better players getting a fraction of that in spain, italy, portugal.

I think the reason we see such low numbers when we sell is because we actually want to shift their wages off our books and look at it in totality.

6.) 31 Aug 2014
Well Peashooter Rooney Hernandez Rvp Welbeck maybe should I go on

7.) 31 Aug 2014
Cleverley is on £35k-£40k a week Shahram.

8.) 31 Aug 2014
But your point is still valid. You are right that we have to accept smaller fees due to subsidising higher wages.

Not just that, at this moment in time we are desperate to offload players due to our massive gross spent.

Other clubs know this so will offer lower than the player is probably worth or offer loan deal only.

9.) 31 Aug 2014
Syd

That 70k figure has been quoted in numerous articles of what I would say are pretty credible news sources. I know you keep saying it is 30k to 40k but then again who can say it not 70k. One of the issues with the supposed transfer is his wage. 30k or 40k would not be issue with most pl teams.

10.) 31 Aug 2014
Shahram, there isn't a single source saying £70k a week. Not one.

11.) 31 Aug 2014
I found several articles saying £40k a week, some saying £35k a week. Zero saying £70k a week. The £70k figure is what the media were saying we have offered him. He's signed one senior contract since he was a youth player, 2011. Do you think he went from a training salary to £70k a week? Of course not. I would say it's £40k a week, but even that is a little bit on the pricey side to the likes of Leicester and Co.

12.) 31 Aug 2014
Article saying the thing holding up his transfer is his 60k a week wage demand.

13.) 31 Aug 2014
No one is going to pay 40m for Rooney. His salary is so high he's virtually unsaleable. Even if the pay scale issue could be resolved, the only teams that can afford that much and might actually benefit from him as a striker are Arsenal and possibly Spurs.

Matas Beard. If Welbeck and Hernandez were worth 20m then there would be competition for their signatures - but at 20m+ there clearly isn't. Same with Kagawa who seems to not be very versatile. Good players, but as far as the very top teams in Europe are concerned, they're second stringers.

14.) 31 Aug 2014
So he's demanding £60k a week, what's that got to do with his current salary? There's talk that he's going to wind down his contract and leave for free next summer. Seems he's doing just that. He maybe playing silly buggers.