10 Dec 2024 13:34:35
Lots of rumours and articles being written that Marcus Rashford could be on his way out.
All the talent in the world, that lad. I think the time is right for both the club and him to break. Could be exactly what's needed for both parties.
10 Dec 2024 14:05:14
Absolutely, he needs a fresh start and a move abroad away from British Media would do him a world of good imo. Need to move him on also for the sake of the team as he has become a bit of a problem when it comes to selection because, imo of who he is, local boy through the academy. Sad it has come to this but don't see what either party is getting out of him staying (from a footballing point of view, he may argue £300k P/ W is worth sticking around for! )
10 Dec 2024 14:05:55
If United can clear their £60m future commitment to wages and actually get a decent transfer fee as well, which will be all profit, then it would probably be a good thing for all involved. Rashford may well be very effective somewhere else but it looks like the EPL is no longer a place where his skillset outweighs his limitations.
10 Dec 2024 14:27:57
Never fulfilled his talent and quite honestly his head is up his a***. If we can find a buyer then great, it’s not like he’s a massive contributor on the pitch and saving his wages and setting a precedent is well worth it. No point being ruthless unless we apply it to the biggest culprits…the players.
10 Dec 2024 15:32:31
He is elite at some aspects of the game, but doesn't seem to want to put the effort into improving his all-round game. I assume it's desire as most of those aspects such as pressing, movement off the ball, hold up play, are all those that players generally improve on over time. As such it is too easy for him to be nullified if the game isn't working to his advantage. Definitely time to move on. The issue will be getting a club willing to pay his wages.
10 Dec 2024 16:31:35
The Telegraph writes that the club are "open" to a sale. I assure you they will be open to the right offer on pretty much all of the current squad. It's just a question of price. But in any event, being open to a sale - something that's glaringly obvious in the case of Rashford - is quite different from having offers on the table. I'd love to see it but, frankly, getting rid of him maybe even more difficult than getting rid of Sancho, or indeed, Martial. Another absolutely disastrous error of judgement committed prior to SJR. Let's commit £75m over the next 5 years to protect a wasting asset.
Part of the process of great managership is to know when to sell. Clough and Taylor were masters of the craft. Sell at the crest of the wave and buy the next thing cheaply. Liverpool did extremely well with Coutinho and Suarez. Ferguson sold RVN and Beckham. He also sold Ronaldo, of course, but at that time the money went to debt repayment and was not reinvested.
No player should be allowed to get too big for the club. If you're so scared of losing a player that you're prepared to overpay up the wazoo to renew a contract then your team is already well on the way to decline. Moyes was desperate to keep Rooney, De Gea became the best paid goalie in the EPL to the tune of £100k per week: Rashford is but the latest example. It's another extremely dysfunctional aspect of the club that needs to be fixed.
I can't guarantee SJR will be successful but were the value of United not buoyed by our global recognition, making it more valuable by far as an asset that the income it now generates, I could have seen the Glazers driving the club into bankruptcy. That's how bad it had become.
10 Dec 2024 18:20:46
Shawthing, I never usually post but feel obliged to with your ludicrous statement that Glazers could have bankrupted the club your supposed to be a figures man so how can you substantiate that remark! Total made up waffle more like a child’s statement.
10 Dec 2024 20:37:55
I can’t see a permanent move but a loan abroad could do him a world of good.
Don’t see much coming in in terms of a ready-made replacement and we might not need one right off. But LWB is a priority, maybe Dorgu. Nypan in mid.
10 Dec 2024 21:41:20
Germansupp: I qualified my remark, by saying that the club's global recognition makes it more valuable than its profitability warrants. Without that, the £1bn in debt, would quite possibly not be supportable. They could not easily increase it, and without more money, could not get back into the game. The Glazers gave up 27% of the equity not because they wanted to but because they had to. Under their leadership it was headed down the toilet. What would two or three more bad seasons and a trip to the Championship have resulted in? Any other business with revenues of £650m, potentially declining, no profits, and £1bn in debt would have a hard time staying on its feet.
11 Dec 2024 04:08:48
Sorry that’s opinion not factual…. They sold 27% because what fool would not, if another fool comes in wants to give you shed load of money more than you originally purchased for and still only by minority then take over the running, if it works they end up with even more money, if it don’t they still own controlling interest and had there money back, you seem to think the Glazers are fools and someone posting on a forum is more qualified then them and there multi advisors who play in billionaire circles daily…. Your trying to spout big words and untruths to sound like your more qualified than them, which is just nonsense.
BTW the minority owner is making a pigs ear of it anyway!
I don’t like Glazers or SJR BUT running the business into the ground is poppycock and you know it… football is not like any other business and you with your spreadsheets and zero activity in it won’t wash.
11 Dec 2024 11:46:00
Imo you’re wrong angel. I don’t think he does have the talent. If he did he’d make a lot better decisions on the ball. He constantly makes the wrong call when the balls at his feet, or approaching him.
He was fortunate to have a very short period where he was on fire but i don’t think that's all the talent in the world.
11 Dec 2024 12:54:30
Clearly something has been leaked to the press to try and drum up some interest. The way this clubs operates is beyond a joke.
11 Dec 2024 13:35:09
Rashford is incredibly talented, go check out his highlights reel.
He was always streaky, but at one point he was carrying the team, just before he injured his back. Since then he had the one season where he was hot but his issue is inconsistency and application. He doesn't look interested, ambles around, and given his talent, doesn't deliver.
It's a crying shame, he could have been the stand out superstar but for whatever reason, he just isn't up for it. He always came across as a humble boy, but now it's tattoos, jewellery, flash cars, trips to the US. He's free to do what he wants off the field, but when he isn't delivering on the pitch, then he can expect to get some grief.
11 Dec 2024 13:52:58
German. again, you're twisting what I said to make your own point, which I've acknowledged already. The Glazers maybe absolutely clueless about running an actual football club, but financial mugs? No. For all the reasons you mentioned, quite brilliant. The partial sale was a masterpiece. It presumably assuaged the family members who were pushing for a total sale and were upset about their dividends being eliminated. They are fully aware, particularly from being NFL owners, of the elevated value of sports franchises, even though in the closed shop salary-capped US franchise system, there is no chance of relegation, revenues are largely guaranteed, and profitability is secured. They backed the European Super League because they wanted to turn soccer into the same gravy boat. Thank God they did not succeed otherwise we could be at the dawn of 3 1/ 2 games with 12 minutes of action and endless advertisements.
P. S. I'm not claiming to be a financial expert. Nor do I analyze anything on spreadsheets.
11 Dec 2024 14:35:47
Exactly Shawthing and I also hear that the food served in the canteen is not up to scratch so let's hope SJR gets his chef's hat on too.
11 Dec 2024 14:41:21
Ajh, i think Rashford is best when he doesn’t have to think too much. Mid level finisher but that is his strongest point.
He’s not that talented i'm sorry to say. But i respect your view and we can both disagree.
11 Dec 2024 15:05:24
Okay gnev, you're opinion, I don't agree with it.
Talent doesn't always equal end product, lots of factors in between.
I think he has all the talent and according to those within the game he is an incredible talent. I think he has lost his way a bit and a reset could be good for him. A good guy.
11 Dec 2024 22:22:54
Rashford is a player who had huge potential, and on his day is still a class player. However, the constant chopping and changing of managers and playing style, along with him playing through injuries has meant he hasn't managed to fulfil that potential.
Recently his attitude has come under question, and he certainly seems less motivated on the pitch. Maybe that's a result of living with pain and playing through the injuries. It could be that he's just got to a point where he's decided the extra work isn't worth the pain anymore.
Maybe it's the wages and life style has gone to his head.
Maybe he's decided his efforts and the sacrifices he has made for the club aren't appreciated by either the club or the fans so what's the point.
Ultimately we don't know and we probably never will.
What we do know is the we have a player on huge wages who isn't putting in performances to warrant them.
We know he was a supremely gifted youngster who has been an almost ever present in the first team since the age of 17 (it's almost 10 years since his debut) . We know he is a player who previously showed great work rate and effort, turning up early for training and staying late. We know he has shown himself to be a humble man who has campaigned for those less fortunate than himself, not for personal glory, but from a position of having suffered like them and wanting to make a difference to those young people.
Yet something has changed, altered, broken. He isn't that player anymore and he doesn't appear to be that man either.
There's no point in getting into the blame game, or demonising anyone. I'm sure that there is plenty of people who can share some of the blame, be that managers, people at the club, fans and the player himself.
Either way it's probably time for a parting of the ways. It's definitely in the players best interests, and long term it's probably in the clubs as well.
We have to appreciate and understand that if/ when he leaves, we will be losing our more recognised and proven forward. No one at the club currently has played better than Marcus for a sustained period of 6 months or more EVER in their United career. That weakens us both on the pitch AND in the minds of our opposition.
While there are absolutely no guarantees that we either will be able to sign a replacement or that any replacement will be even at the same level as Rashford let alone an upgrade.
We could easily sell Rashford and sign Antony 2.0.
However, the writing appears to be on the wall. Rumours suggest that we expect or are willing to accept offers of around 40m. Which seems about right to me. Signing a 27 year old on a low ebb but on massive wages. I don't see anyone being prepared to pay much more than 40m all things considered.
12 Dec 2024 09:10:20
Rashford is not an elite level player, he had potential and bags of it, at 27 we can safely say he isn’t capable of reaching it at the club. For his career and the good of the club, he needs to leave. Running doesn’t take talent it just requires desire, there’s 74,310 people in that stadium that would run themselves into the ground given the opportunity, unfortunately it looks like Rashford has lost that desire.
12 Dec 2024 10:34:09
Rash out, Mitoma in in summer :D.
12 Dec 2024 15:10:48
Send him to M and S.
12 Dec 2024 18:32:28
Lets not forget Rashford only got his chance because of an injury crisis.
Otherwise, I don't think we'd be having this debate beacuse Rashford would have sold to Fulham at the age of 18.