15 Jun 2024 08:52:04
A good friend is friends with someone senior at Peterborough United. Strong links to United through Ferguson and Fry.
Sound bites are that things are far from well under the bonnet with ETH and there are still chances he will not sign contract on terms put forward.
Issues are his own responsibilities (reduced) and concerns over some parts of his coaching setup and his own pragmatism. Also relationship between SJR and ETH is feisty to say the least.
Info a few days old now so he may have signed since. I live in hope.
15 Jun 2024 11:35:41
???.
15 Jun 2024 12:06:22
Funny how now the manager is staying and given your clear dislike for the manager that suddenly you have contacts that say things are different to how they are generally reported. Especially as it supports your view.
Very convenient.
15 Jun 2024 12:14:46
Yet more credible reporters have said that ETH is more than happy with his responsibilities and agrees that the club needs a head of recruitment.
But we’ll take the word of Dave from the Dog and Duck ?.
15 Jun 2024 12:53:02
Peterborough United? Cracking source/ sauce! ???.
15 Jun 2024 14:07:47
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea about contract extensions but others they spoke to were not interested in the job. See what happens after the Euros. }
This rumour may well be correct, read what ed002 wrote.
15 Jun 2024 14:41:19
Don’t think I’ll bother posting in here again.
{Ed002's Note - I'll have your account deleted then.}
15 Jun 2024 15:55:59
This site is called Manchester United Rumours and you've all jumped on someone who has posted a rumour.
It's not exactly encouraging for people who might want to post a rumour in the future
Thanks for the rumour BRD.
15 Jun 2024 16:56:57
Let’s hope you’re right, BRD.
With the executive team soon to be making decisions about transfers and tactics, we need a coach who can get those ideas across and keep the players motivated: two things that Ten Haag has proven to be woefully incapable of doing.
Aside from his very public spats with Sancho and Ronaldo, it sounds like he’s had bust ups with Varane, Cas, Rashford, and Antony, at the very least. If the guy can’t even get on with the signings he chooses, it seems somewhat unlikely that he’ll do any better with somebody else calling the shots.
15 Jun 2024 19:54:39
Mancman, it isn't a rumour, it is a fictitious piece of garbage from someone who doesn't like a decision.
Read the last sentence.
'I live in hope'
Wow.
In the words of Red from Shawshank redemption, 'Hope will get you killed'
15 Jun 2024 21:17:28
Nah Jimbo Red, I doubt someone would invent something that random. Why can't we just take the rumour in good faith? BRD would have to be a really saddo to make up and post something like that.
Plus it reads to me that he hopes Ten Hag has signed a contract.
15 Jun 2024 22:07:45
Jimbobred
I saw something the other day that mentioned his assistant rubs a lot of people up the wrong way and had run ins with McLaren so to me it doesn't sound like he has made it all up.
15 Jun 2024 22:48:22
Sign the contact or don’t sign. that's up to ETH. Reckon he’ll be gone by Xmas either way.
16 Jun 2024 00:48:07
Jimbo you’re arguing with the same person across multiple accounts here. It isn’t worth your time.
16 Jun 2024 01:17:03
Lol and so it begins.
16 Jun 2024 08:02:49
Am inclined to believe United and ETH more a marriage of convenience at the moment: INEOS clearky couldn’t get their first choice and have settled with ETH for now.
However, reports about end of season review apparently highlighted the following concerns about ETH:
1. Communication issues, with some players not understanding his instructions or even buying into the repetitive way he tried to drill them in.
2. Inflexible and unwilling to take on board advice from other coaches. Be a problem for new United structure.
3. Desire to have power with transfers etc; not willing to forego veto he currently has.
Thus, unless ETH signs a contract that addresses these issues, he will surely leave sooner rather than later.
I also think that this is linked to INEOS treading water and not making such an important decision until Ashworth arrives, maybe in the Autumn.
So thanks for your rumour BRD: really wouldn’t surprise me if ETH does go soon.
(Also, snippet from Ed002 post about see what happens after the Euros…)
16 Jun 2024 08:39:17
nothing changes. Those who wanted him gone will be out in full force after every bad result and those who wanted him to continue will focus more on the positives, that's football.
I think people using player issues as stick to beat the manager is clutching at straws as there seems to be an issue with every manager and some of these players, who want to run riot at the club and ill disciplined and suspect the review has highlighted that given some of the statements that has come out from Ineos.
One thing for sure many of the players put in major shifts for him and most are the ones people really like and the untouchable group.
Still waiting for clubs to line up to buy this so called incredible player Sancho for a fraction of what we paid for him who eth has ruined or been responsible for the fall out supposedly :)
Personally hope we get a lot of outs and 4 maybe 5 quality ins. I trust with a better group of players he will do exceptionally well.
I don't believe all the stories circulating about a 35 to 50 mill budget. it's stirring the pot as usual when it comes to united. The 2021 financials, which were very bad drop out come end of June and we should have a much higher budget on transfers. If we can shift players would not surprise me to see 200 mill spend.
Here is to hoping we get a lot of key things done this summer.
16 Jun 2024 08:50:37
Yet you feel its worth your time replying wazza? Not the brightest bulb are ya.
16 Jun 2024 08:59:04
redseven
If you are referring to the story circulating about cas being unhappy we went for Hoiland and not Kane or were late to chase rice. Those were club decisions.
Also if you are referring to Antony being a twat and being unhappy when asked to play left back late in a game with the team having no left back most of the season and think that's okay then that's a strange view and doubt at most other top clubs it would be tolerated. Camavingha played left back for real season before last including the semis against city.
And if rash is unhappy for being asked to play wide because we bought a young striker who plays down the middle and also help defensively. Or sanch and ronaldo both ignoring instructions to press the ball and wanting to do their own thing, I guess we have a different philosophy all together when it comes to management, players and what's acceptable behavior and what is not.
Clutching at straws mate. at least wait until we lose a game before it starts:)
16 Jun 2024 10:42:43
Ahmad, you are absolutely right about the players having problems with successive managers.
It makes you wonder how some can defend the players.
The latest rumours are Varane and Casemiro being unhappy that training at Manchester United is different to at Real Madrid. I do wonder if these players have a few brain cells to rub together between them.
It should be perfectly obvious that if you choose to move employer, you are going to be expected to learn new policies and procedures. That is true whether you are a footballer or an office worker. The response to these players should be swift, you’re not at Real Madrid now, you chose to switch employer, and now you adapt to our way of working.
16 Jun 2024 10:42:50
Noted Wazza, thanks for the heads up. Can probably pick the other account names!
16 Jun 2024 11:08:13
Just a guess Jimbo due to the broken record that’s playing.
16 Jun 2024 11:11:08
Ahmad. Funny how they always seem to be “club decisions” when it suits your narrative.
And we’ve already lost more than enough games, thanks. Fact is, we’ve been awful since the Carabao Cup final back in January 2023, and were it not for Rashford’s unprecedented purple patch, Ten Haag would have been out the door last summer rather than this one. Hopefully, one of INEOS’s main targets becomes available before the start of the season and we can finally start to rebuild.
16 Jun 2024 14:53:31
redseven
You are clutching at straws. get used to seeing him as the manger and i suspect for a lot longer than you think. You are referring to the Laurie Whitwell article from the athletic, which is very detailed from the start of eth tenure. Funny how you take bits and pieces to suit your argument that is far from some of the core issues at the club that sounds unbelievable. my take was the manager is the least of our problems and many things to get fixed before you get to the manager.
16 Jun 2024 21:31:02
Everyone bashed the OP. Only for ETH to come out today to confirm that the issues with the new contract persist.
17 Jun 2024 06:46:25
He said they still have to find an agreement on the new contract. This isn’t news.
17 Jun 2024 08:20:05
Just hope INEOS not stalling for time to bring Ashworth and Southgate in, so they can rebuild United replicating the process they took with England…
Southgate might get on well with the players but, as witnessed last night, he seems to really lack in-game management and the nous to make changes.
17 Jun 2024 10:55:58
Wallace, gets on well with the players, lacks in-game management etc. Kind of reminds you of another manager we had recently doesn't it?
Honestly, I'm dreading the possibility of Southgate as manager. If we are going to have a manager purely based on his ability to keep the players happy, we should bring Ole back. I still believe that while he certainly wasn't good enough, he could have improved in those areas, arguably had even started to, and I'd much rather suffer through a couple of years of him while he learns to make changes during a match than have Southgate.
For the record, I'm not seriously advocating bringing OGS back (although I wouldn't be as opposed to it as many would I suspect), just ponting out the irony of Southgate being a rumoured target, when he's got such similar weaknesses to Ole, and IMO isn't any better of a manager.