20 Jun 2025 07:25:12
On Sky Sports:
"Ruben Amorim is set to leave out Alejandro Garnacho, Marcus Rashford, Antony and Jadon Sancho from Manchester United’s pre-season tour, reports. "
Not unsurprising but good news all the same.
20 Jun 2025 07:58:29
Its actually pretty tragic news.
That's about £200 million of spend/ assets which are so toxic/ bad, they have to be excluded.
20 Jun 2025 09:55:09
Strong management and something we should have seen before. With Amorim totally. Also it is said they will all train separately to the main group until gone.
20 Jun 2025 10:34:51
Labelling Antony as toxic feels super harsh. he's not good enough, but has always given his best.
20 Jun 2025 10:49:29
The amount of money that Utd have spunked up the wall in recent history is incredible. Much of it on signings that we were all genuinely excited about at the time, but have transpired to be bad eggs for whatever reason. Why is it only Utd this seems to happen to? I remember a few players have commented that under Ole players were pretty much doing what they wanted at training etc. I can imagine that ethos alongside wages probably 3-4 x higher than they should have been is a massive factor.
20 Jun 2025 11:12:52
The fact that Amorim has been allowed to this is a very good sign if true. Post Sir Alex we have been extremely soft on the playing staff and thrown managers under the bus to protect the value of players.
Bad recruitment, poor leadership and a lack of strategy have got us to this point. Hopefully firm leadership will shift the balance of power from the playing staff to the manager. It will make getting players out easier, not taking massive earners with big reputations sends a huge message about their position at the club and sends a shot across the bow to the rest of the dressing room.
I would isolate them from the rest of the squad, they train alone away from other team mates, they aren't to be in the training ground when the team is there, they have no involvement in the first team squad at all. I'd put them in with the kids and make them do opposition drills and make it crystal clear, you will not play for this team again, you will not be trained, you will basically stand where you are told for the u18's to be trained around you. The players on multiple year contacts will run out the club, someone like Sancho will look for a loan to get his free at the end of next season BUT they would be gone.
Those are players that are obviously surplus to requirements, I'd do the same with Onana, be absolutely ruthless. You would need to be very honest with him and have the hard conversation that he's not in your plans and he's getting frozen out and that you are actively bringing in the new #1.
Its a shame we didn't listen to Rangnick and let him be the bad guy, do the clear out and give he next manager a clean slate but here we are.
20 Jun 2025 11:47:17
Eric, Antony was not labelled 'toxic'. You appear to have missed the / between the words toxic and bad.
20 Jun 2025 13:19:49
I expect there is also an element of keeping them at home to allow any potential transfer to go through quicker then if they were on tour. Good management and sensible decisions being made all round.
21 Jun 2025 00:54:11
Imagine if we had listened to Jose, and backed him to clean out the rot. a decade of going backwards wouldn't of happened.
21 Jun 2025 07:22:44
Yes Jimbo I looked at what the club bought for Mourinho in his last window and said at the time he should have walked out. He wanted to deal with player issues but it looked like Woodward and co decided the players were important assets and only important people like them (not the manager) would make decisions on them. In fact it was also widely reported one of the Glazers liked Martial and refused to let him be sold. Then let’s think what the idiots in charge did with Ralf Rangnick. Brought him in as a consultant to tell them what to do, great idea. Told them the truth which they didn’t want to hear, so messed him around put him as manager of players he was saying needed getting rid of and then clueless about what the reasons for playing badly, sacked him. Now it looks like they are behind a strong willed manager. Let’s hope it stays that way.
What a mess it has been and should have been so easy to avoid but instead we had Woodward the Glazer puppet. Don’t set me off on those leeches, I get told off on here.