30 May 2025 11:53:57
If INEOS do not sell Bruno Fernandes for that much then they’re one thick bunch. Time to move on. Won’t be another situation they will get this lucky. If they do mess this up, they will regret it.
30 May 2025 12:05:52
Amz, what a ridiculous statement.
Please tell me how a player of his calibre in a crap team can be replaced.
It's unreal that people just think, yep, there's 100m, straight into the kitty and he can be replaced, it will help us rebuild.
There is no guarantee that a) that money goes into our transfer kitty and b) a player of that quality can be replaced at all.
He is too important to the team.
Build with Bruno, not without.
I think that this a choice that will be down to the player. I believe the club and coach have planned their transfers on him staying.
30 May 2025 12:57:57
He’s talented, agreed. We can’t afford these luxuries though. He has 2 years on his contract and approaching 31. Probably a good few years left in his legs but Manchester United comes before Bruno Fernandes. This squad desperately requires a raising of its level and we can’t do that without funds. We finished 15th, on the last day of the season with him. I don’t think he’s a natural fit for the “system” either.
30 May 2025 13:13:56
Firstly, it'll be down to Bruno if he goes or not. The club cannot force him to leave.
Secondly, Bruno is by far our best and most important player. Without his contributions this season we'd probably be starting next season in the championship.
We are in a catch 22 position with Bruno this summer.
Given his age, wages, and the massive fee we would get for him that would go a long way towards helping us rebuild our side. It absolutely makes sense to sell him.
Yet on the other hand he is our captain, our best player, and selling him absolutely weakens our team. There are absolutely no guarantees that the players we sign to replace him even match his level for us, let alone surpass it.
If we keep him and he declines then it's seen as a mistake.
If we sell him and the replacements don't immediately step up, then it'll be seen as a mistake.
On balance selling him is probably the best solution, given that he will 100% decline at some point, and our need for cash to rebuild the team is high.
30 May 2025 13:24:25
I tend to agree Amz. It's not up to the club though. If Bruno does not want to go then he won't.
The club can accept whatever offer they like but it's not their decision as he has a contract. I think he would be crazy not to accept 200. Net over 3 years in wages.
Maybe not even a starter for Portugal in the wc. I doubt a move would see him ommitted from the squad. 31 at begini g of next season i think the club would be crazy not to accept that sort of money for him circa 100m .
I'd probably have a different opinion if he was 27 but at this stage I'd say we've seen the best of him.
The squad needs rebuilding and sacrifices need to be made in order to do that.
Psg have up great players a have Barcelona and Liverpool all have done well since.
I see both sides of this debate and it is a tough call.
I don't think either view point as 'ridiculous' that's a ridiculous statement in itself.
If the king dies its long live the new king.
Dozens of better and much more successful players have played for and left the club simple as that.
30 May 2025 13:39:04
But there are not dozens of quality players at this time, in fact only 1 quality player and that’s the player we are talking about!
Ok 100 mil lot of money, but is it, because they are saying 100 mil for garnacho and Antony, I know I would never swap Bruno for those two, so what we going to replace him with for 100 mil…… we will be in even a worse position then we are currently without him!
Everything is not about money, which these pages seems to become transfixed with!
We lack goals big time and we want to sell our only source of the rare commodity of Goals, that’s ludicrous.
30 May 2025 13:52:58
If he wants to go and we are getting north of £100m then we should support the decision and take the money. If he does not want to go I would not be pushing him out the door. Personally I think he is desperate to turn us around and be the captain when that happens.
I think that Amorim see's him as the one player that can be relied on to be his general on the pitch. he is not perfect in an Amorim team but has the ability to cover both the 10's and midfield roles.
I would expect we could still recoup some decent money next year even if he only stays for one more year.
30 May 2025 13:53:08
I’d like us to take the emotion out of some of these decisions and that is obviously hard to do as fans but the board and ownership are paid to make these decisions. Yes, we cannot force him out but I think if the club approached him and said we need to reinvest, he would move on. The money to be earned is generational wealth for the lad and his family. It’s not that we don’t lose out on his talents, but we are not in a position to be placing one player above the club, especially with the situation we are in. Of course he would be missed if it happens but this is football.
30 May 2025 14:01:03
How many goals did bruno score last season from open play. Pens are important but many can take them.
I'm not sure he scored more than cunha from open play but I've not checked. So whist we don't have dozens of players better than him now they're are dozens out there.
30 May 2025 15:27:07
Just sell whatever class we have left.
30 May 2025 17:00:12
Quality stuff this lads. Our only world class talent.
Everyone declines at some point but he still is the best performer by a million miles.
He had 38 G/ A last season.
But look, the club have a great track record of buying quality and developing them ? sell him ?
We are no longer a football club, we are now a financial institution, turning into Brighton, selling our best player.
30 May 2025 17:00:34
Dozens of better players out there.
Name then Ken ?.
30 May 2025 17:01:19
Is this the educated football fan talking Ken? ?.
30 May 2025 18:54:40
Angel I'm happy to bet any money you like that we will do better next season than this without bruno in team. So if he does leave put your money down.
30 May 2025 19:16:47
Haha ken, come off it.
My prediction is we do better next season with Bruno in the team. So if he stays, put your money down.
??
Honestly, that is some prediction. We can't do any worse than last season, worse is being relegated, FML, is this the educated football fan coming out in you now?
30 May 2025 19:17:52
I'm still waiting on the list of dozens, name then.
I'm also still yet to hear your defence of RA given his abysmal reign last season. Told us we just need a better coach ? what happened last year then?
30 May 2025 22:53:44
Angel it don't have to defend anybody in surprised you think i do
This season was a nightmare but the future looks very brought imo. The business have made great moves and strides this year. Some bad moves too.
I'm very pleased we have the manager we do nothing new there.
As for players better than bruno in world football there are dozens better than him imo. He has been here for 5 or 6 seasons has good personal stats. But it's not a personal game.
I think mctom had a better season than bruno this year.
Was he up for player of the season in epl this season. Vvd is a better player and one I'd rather have in my team than bruno.
The list is endless of players I'd prefer or who I think would make our team better.
I think looking at goals and assistsbis a very narrow way of looking at things.
You have a very different view point that's OK.
If I was picking a prem 11 from this season as a team bruno would not be in it.
None of the top performing teams in Europe over the last 10 years have tried to sign him. His option when coming to injured was us or spurs.
You have a higher opinion of him than most.
If he stays I'm happy if he goes in happy.
I don't judge players on their personal stats in judge players on how the team performs not them individually.
Ww have not performed consistently as a team over the past 10 years. With bruno in it or out of it.
He has done well as an individual if you cont goals and assists.
I'm not alone in my view neither or you.
The list of footballers who have done better than bruno this season or over last 6 years in a very long list.
I don't think he makes the team better results would suggest as much despite his own personal good stats.
Not too many world class players winning no major comps in their career most that are not winning where they are are coveted by the winning teams bruno never was.
As I said I'm not alone in my views they are not right or wrong.
Bigger picture not just the here and now and not just goals and assists.
Your not a subject matter expert and you have as much experience and knowledge of performing heart surgery as you do of managing a professional football team. I'm not sure why your so interested in what I think of players as I'm in same boat.
You like what you like and that's fine.
Psg got rid of a load of their'top' players as did Liverpool and Barcelona and indeed united.
We've had dozens of players better than bruno and been fine.
If he leaves, we will do better without him than we have with him over last 2 seasons I don't have any doubt about that.
Lots of poor players for us have excelled without bruno as their team mate.
I'm not saying he is not a good player but as a team we have not done great with him in it.
30 May 2025 23:59:38
In the EPL this season:
Bruno 8 goals and 10 assists for a total of 18 goals and assists. The following players have all also managed at least 18 goals and assists this season:
Cunha 15 goals and 6 assists (21).
Mbeumo 20 goals and 7 assists (27).
Cole Palmer 15 goals and 8 assists (23).
Jarrod Bowen 13 goals and 6 assists (19).
Justin Kluivert 12 goals and 6 assists (18).
Jacob Murphy 8 goals and 12 assists (20).
Morgan Rogers 8 goals and 10 assists (18).
Luiz Diaz 13 goals and 5 assists (18).
So there's 8 players in the EPL that have managed the same number of goals and assists as Bruno this year. And that's without me including players who are more strikers than midfielders to keep it fair. But I could have included Salah (47), Isak (29), Haaland (25), Wood (23), Wissa (23), Watkins (24), and Strand Larsen (18) all got more than Bruno.
So just the 15 players in the league who got as many or more goals and assists than Bruno.
Hell there are a lot of players who were that far behind, Elanga (17), Saka (16), Maddison (16), Semenyo (16), Son (16), João Pedro (16), Eze (16), Jackson (15), Iwobi (15), Trossard (15), Gibbs-White (15), Jimenez (15), Delap, Welbeck, Mitoma, Sarr, Amad, Gakpo and Johnson all got 14.
That's another 19 who all got at least 14 goals and assists, with many of them not taking penalties like Bruno and/ or not played as many minutes as Bruno.
So in total in the EPL there were 34 other players across the league that got similar or better numbers of goals and assists this season compared to Bruno.
Yes he's been a great player, but to suggest he is irreplaceable is folly.
31 May 2025 01:15:17
No arguments that he is a really good footballer. Great attitude always available. Gives his best in every game. I'd not be disappointed if he stays I'm see it as a bit of a win win situation. Far from a disaster if he leaves.
31 May 2025 10:22:02
Nice stays shappy helps clear the fog.
Of the top 34 assist makers in the top leagues in Europe this season i.e 9 assists or more (bruno had 10)
So less than the Fulham lb Robinson Jacob Murphy and elenga for example.
Bruno ranks 33rd for assists per min played.
It's mad when you look into things how different things are to some perceptions.
Over last 5 years bruno aberdare an assist every 4 games or 365 mins. So a lot less than Jacob Murphy per min played over last 5 years in epl. I think its 14 players in epl with better assist per min ratio.
As I said dozens of players performing as well or better than bruno when it comes to playmaker.