12 Nov 2024 17:15:15
So, time to nail your colours to the master. We had lots of I never wanted Jose / Ole / ETH and here we are with a new man. So where do you stand?
I think we have made a bold choice, a young Manager who has been successful in a smaller league. That might make him the next Mourinho, or he may just be another one unable to take a step up.
Given the names that were being bandied about, I am very pleased with the decision, I like the cut of his jib, and sincerely hope he remains true to his beliefs. I think ETH tied himself in knots and lost sight of his principles, Amorim needs to make sure he doesn't do the same.
So, I'm all for him, but time will tell.
12 Nov 2024 17:46:27
I honestly didn’t think he was an option so once the decision was made I was delighted they got business done quickly. I mentioned in the summer that if we were to go for a new manager I wonder if the approach would be similar to their approach for players, young with lots of potential but I always had a horrible feeling we’d end up with Southgate. Great decision and a sign of intent imo from INEOS. Let’s hope he’s backed ahead of players and fans are prepared to back him even if things get a little rocky at any point.
12 Nov 2024 17:51:36
Same here but will not criticize him if he does not come up with formations and changes people are all speculating. The pressure to win never changes with any manager at United and let him figure out when is the time to make the shift. We are in all comps and early days.
People being giddy about playing a back 3 because its something new is a bit premature. Its a formation where you can look very poor if you don't have the players and a team used to playing it. I think LVG tried it and we were horrendous at it and probably had better players back then.
If he makes the switch I hope the players can adapt. Tough league to make such a change in season with no time with these players. Also can't blame the players if they struggle with it.
His team and support him however he wants to play and whoever he picks imo and will cut him some slack.
12 Nov 2024 18:50:48
I'm really pleased AJH
Really looking forward to seeing who adapts. Also looking forward to seeing a well drilled team. I honestly think that in 18 months we will be a totally different team? One we can be proud of in every respect.
I think he should and will go straight into what he knows best and the team shape he knows how to coach best. That's what got him the job.
The thing I'm looking forward to most is I believe he will unite the fans and the players and they will be a team that represent us in terms of their effort.
It won't happen overnight, and there will be a few bumps in the road, but I'm excited by a managerial appointment for the first time since 1986.
12 Nov 2024 19:00:22
AJH - I think you’re spot on about eth. He went away from what made him the manager united and the fans were attracted to and got tied up in knots. I also think his disciplinarian options of the stick or the bigger stick became ineffective over time (particularly as results slipped and the team was defensively exposed last year) .
I’m with you on Amorim - bold and exciting appointment and I think he will be a smashing success! Really excited to see how our play develops over the next 12 months!
12 Nov 2024 19:34:36
I’m pleased but I was also pleased with the appointment of ETH. I await the calls for Amorim to be sacked because this group of players are weak, in the main, and when asked to work hard will be looking to chuck yet another under a bus. I desperately hope I’m proved to be wrong but I have little confidence in this group as a whole.
PLEASE prove me wrong.
12 Nov 2024 19:44:24
He’s already said in his last post match interview that he’ll go with what he knows best (3-4-3).
Think it might be rocky for a few games but confident we’ll be vastly improved by the end of the year.
I’m also confident he’s mostly got the players to do it. LWB is a grey area where I think I’d go with a winger like Garnacho rather than any of our LB options (as Bruno/ Rash can’t) and whilst he won’t be blessed with an in-form striker I’d like to see how Rasmus gets on before the debit card comes out.
12 Nov 2024 20:16:34
I wanted ETH, I posted here two years before we actually got him that I thought we should bring in Van Der Sar as CEO, Overmars as DoF amd ETH as manager. I could see however that his time was up, it hasn't worked out and when things go sour and you fall into a cycle of negativity its very hard to get out of. I felt we were really confused under ETH, the players need clarity of message, tactically and in the standards expected of them.
United for too long have been a collection of individuals less than the sum of their parts.
Amorin has to change this, he needs to implement his system and provide the players with his expectations. Then then have to meet this and if they fall short then the must be dealt with.
I firmly believe that the journey will be tough there will be bumps on the way, some will fall short, some may surprise and exceed what we have seen, I have no idea who or how in that dressing room will react. I am hoping he is someone to unlock a few of these players.
What I have seen and know of him is impressive and I have hope, no more than that for now, but I want him to make me believe in him.
12 Nov 2024 20:19:12
I’m with Spenno.
I do not hold with this players cannot play 3-4-3. They are professional players who should be able to adapt to any system. If they cannot then ship em out.
I accept it may take a little time to perfect it but the basics of the ability to adapt should be there.
Might be a few noses put out of joint for those that cannot and spend time on the splinters before being moved on.
12 Nov 2024 20:56:21
The only one I didn't want was Jose. That was never about his ability as a manager but due to his preference for defensive football and a severe lack of trust in youth. My opinion is that Manchester United should be about giving youth a chance and looking to entertain with attack minded football. At least that is what our most successful teams have been built around.
I didn't see Jose as a manager to embrace that. But once he was hired I supported him as I'd rather the club be successful than prove myself right.
I felt EtH was a little hard done by personally. But he's gone now and we have a new manager to support.
I really like what I've seen from Amorim. He comes across well, gives youth a chance and plays an attacking style of play.
That said it'll take time, and those fans expecting instant success or even steady linear improvement are setting themselves up for disappointment.
12 Nov 2024 21:24:09
I was delighted when we appointed ETH.
But as other posters alluded to, he totally lost his way at the end of his first season and never found his mojo back. He’ll find a new club, or maybe go back to Ajax, and do well.
Amorim I’m on the fence frankly. Not sure he’ll be a success, but would love to be proved wrong and eat humble pie.
12 Nov 2024 21:59:28
AJH
Where do we stand
Busby, wasn’t around when appointed.
Wilf, remember him being appointed and it was underwhelming. Felt too inexperienced.
OFarrell, never felt sure about him.
The Doc, at a time of chaos felt there was hope, then excited by the young vibrant team.
Sexton, concerned because he sounded dull, and was.
Atkinson, excited because watching his West Brom team was a joy, Cunningham and Regis wow.
SAF, relief and hope, knew he had broken into the Celtic Rangers show. Knew the drinking issue after seeing it with my own eyes.
Moyes, said we shouldn’t have gone near him. Stood in OT when SAF made the speech about supporting the manager and wanted the ground to swallow me up.
Wanted Klopp to replace him,
Felt LvG was the wrong choice
Wanted Pep, but felt it would need to be Mourinho.
Thought Ole was madness on a permanent basis.
Understood what Rangnick was brought in for, felt it was stupidity they didn’t listen to him or used the skills he has
Was not convinced by ETH and he should have gone in summer.
On Amorim I said we needed a young driven coach, in fact said as soon as ETH went, on here, that Amorim is one to get and would fit, possibly Nagelsmann if not.
Delighted with Amorim, the most excited I have been about a United manager coming on board. I think he fits more than any since SAF arrived. Very pleased and looking forward to seeing him implement his ideas.
12 Nov 2024 22:31:05
I would say that I am currently the most optimistic I've been since SAF - I am very happy with Amorim.
He is the coach I wanted before ten Hag's arrival, but I do wonder how things would look had he arrived then. Would he have stopped the rot? Would he have got the ten Hag treatment?
Ahmad
LVG did toy with the 3-5-2, but he wasn't really a great fan of the formation and, therefore, wasn't the right coach for it. Let's be real, the game has evolved greatly since LVG who, imo, would massively struggle to win a thing now.
Imo, Amorim is exactly the right man for that formation and I believe that there's enough of our players with enough about them to adapt well enough to serve food for thought by season's end.
One other factor to Amorim's approach is his trusty assistant Carlos Fernandes - I believe this guy will himself become one of the world's most coveted coaches.
If the INEOS era is to bring success via the 'Best-in-class' premise, then this coach and his team must surely fit the bill. For all the words we've heard, read and said - 'In Sir Jim we trust' and 'Trust the process' - the reality is that this is the first head coach they've chosen for United, so I'm happy to roll with it and see where it takes us.
If the abject failure were to continue then I'll be gutted and I'm happy to fall on my sword, but I think the appointments of Amorim and his team will complete the process of establishing an operational structure that has the talent to deliver upon the potential of returning to the club to the top table of world football.
Time will indeed tell, but I'm feeling the positivity.
12 Nov 2024 23:32:12
3 gentle (ish) games for him before a few not so.
12 Nov 2024 23:59:31
To put it bluntly he definitely has my vote.
In other news Malacia played 45 mins for the U21s tonight.
13 Nov 2024 00:13:35
I want a manager to come in and put team and formation above players. For that purpose, he is perfect. We need a change and we need to change the culture in the team. I believe he is the perfect manager for that, mainly because the new management team have to support him and make it successful. With the change in formation, some big players might not be successful, but as explained, I think I that is good for our culture reboot.
I will admit one thing though, not convinced the new formation will win the league, I hope I am wrong about that.
Old utd is dead. Long live the new utd.
13 Nov 2024 00:37:39
Anyone thinking disciplin is not the way, I absolutely disagree. The team has been pandered to for too long. The squad needs standards, and if they are not met, there have to be consequences. Problem under EtH was that rash, bruno, anthony etc played poorly but still got picked.
Amorim is the first chosen coach, he will be backed by those above him. So he has the backing to what he needs to be done. This squad is part way there, we will need more changes so don't expect to win straight away.
13 Nov 2024 17:05:33
He'll get my backing, just like all the rest. Even Jose, who I personally can't stand as a manager, or Van Gaal, who I liked personally, but who's tactics bored me to tears. Or Moyes and Ole who proved to be out of their depth. Until the majority decide his times up, and it's obvious for most to see, I'll back them. If the manager's successful, the team is doing well. Who wouldn't want a manager to do well?
13 Nov 2024 18:28:42
Like any new Utd manager I will back him unless and until the football is boring and results poor.