08 Oct 2024 21:33:43
Trying to catch up on news. What's happened in this meeting everyone was talking about, can't find anything.
08 Oct 2024 23:07:25
That's probably because they have not said anything yet.
08 Oct 2024 23:57:26
The media seem desperate to find something in it but by all accounts it was just the regular monthly meeting for the leadership group?
09 Oct 2024 00:44:32
Sky have been camping outside and earlier they said they had big news about the meeting and it was that it had finished and the people had left, they know nothing and it’s embarrassing.
09 Oct 2024 06:46:27
I actually love not knowing. It means we are a proper football club again being run by the right sort of people.
It is none of the media's business knowing anything before the club announces it. It's actually detrimental to the club for information being leaked to the press. The fact it has seemingly stopped is a very good sign that the club is getting back on its feet.
09 Oct 2024 07:46:21
100# Shappy.
09 Oct 2024 08:23:46
I thought that this was a set monthly meeting anyway, before the questions on ETH. It coincides with it, wasn't especially set up to discuss ETH.
Makes a good story for journalists. United, always big news.
09 Oct 2024 08:32:15
So the contents of a meeting between 4 or 5 people that wasn't leaked is a sign that the club is getting back on it's feet? That's THE most illogical reasoning I've read on these pages since, well not that long ago.
09 Oct 2024 10:42:26
Personally, given all the intense media supposition that this meeting would involve discussion about ten Hag's future, I would have expected a statement from someone if this meeting was simply a routine gathering of suits and Erik's future wasn't on the agenda.
If his future wasn't on the agenda and the committee have just allowed the media circus to paint whatever narrative they want, then shame on them.
This, considering the witch-hunt, will be the determining point from which I decide how I will regard Sir Jim and his team.
If ten Hag goes, then the cloak-and-daggers approach makes sense and I'll applaud them for managing the situation as best they can in spite of the media scrutiny.
However, if he doesn't and the committee have simply allowed a media-fuelled smokescreen to drive it's own agenda without showing commitment and, moreover, respect for their First Team Manager by clarifying their collective stance prior to the meeting, then they're, collectively, a f***ing disgrace.
09 Oct 2024 12:42:15
They don't nev to make any public statement at all imo.
If they are happy with him I'm sure they will tell him if not I'm sure they will tell him.
Nobody else needs to be told anything. Just get on with business as usual if they are going to change they will let everybody know in due course. It certainly does not need any announcement if there is no change afoot.
09 Oct 2024 13:59:54
If they make any sort of vague statement it will only add fuel to things and lots of conjecture for open interpretation. Other option is to make a statement of full support but then they have to be completely convinced in him no matter what the results to the end of the season.
It does put a lot more pressure on ETH unfortunately and not sure helpful in any profession to be living under this sort of spot light 24/ 7, where every word, every substitution, every line up or even facial expression gets articles written about it.
If he is going to turn this around it will be doing it the hard way and Barbarians at the gate every time there is a set back.
We need to win a few games on the bounce hopefully and that will help quiet down the noise.
I suspect come November break it will be a more relevant timeline if something is going to happen if he has not gotten enough good results through the next stretch of games both PL and Europe.
Its clear no one has a clue about what is going on and most to step out and say stuff are made to look stupid losing credibility and maybe that's why they will say nothing.
Away in turkey and Mourinho will be an interesting game to watch.
09 Oct 2024 14:08:09
Ork - I think that’s an absolutely cracking post and I completely agree.
We need strong and decisive leadership especially now we have a new structure in place. As you say allowing the media to drive their own agenda whilst seemingly burying their heads in the sand is exactly what the Glazers did!
Strong leaders would control the narrative and communicate with their own fans. This stinks of yet more indecision and just buying time to me.
It’s not productive and what effect does this have on the playing squad not knowing the managers future? In a Club where player power thrives, surely the players understand that a couple more bad results and the manager will be replaced?
Our seasons hangs in the balance and are we just going to watch on helpless whilst it implodes and another season is written off before the turn of a New Year. that's is what will happen without strong and divisive leadership. Pretending nothing is wrong whilst the media engineer stories and undermine the manager at every turn with contact questions about his job and secret talks with his replacement, is like you said an absolute disgrace.
I think we all know a few more bad results and he’s gone. Before Christmas we play Chelsea, Arsenal and City, with Newcastle to come before the New Year and Liverpool first week of January.
It appears to me they are just biding their time and hoping EtH will magically turn things around. They are being reactive rather than proactive but we all know they will be forced into a decision sooner or later.
In my opinion it’s been a horrendous start for Ineos. They have undermined a beleaguered manager by openly interviewing other candidates for his job whilst he was still in post. They have then invested nearly £200m into the playing squad and recruited new coaches to help. They are now procrastinating and praying he can someone turn it around otherwise it leaves their decision making in tatters and a massive financial back hole to navigate.
Sack him or back him and provide this Club with some much needed leadership it’s been sorely lacking for over a decade.
09 Oct 2024 15:35:06
Didn't Omar berrada just issue a public statement of support just a little while ago.
They probably like they feel they don't have to say anything right now. I'm fine with that.
If there's going to be a change made, I'm sure they'll say. Until then, keep going.
09 Oct 2024 17:01:56
Exactly angel.
Dlib they said they want to give him some time in the summer.
Why give an update to that?
There was no length to that if his position becomes untenable in their view they will act.
They have more patience than I do.
But I'm not owed an explanation. No fan is.
They will make a devision to change when they feel they need to. I would encourage that to be sooner rather than later but they are in control. They will make decisions in their own time and won't be led by you me or the daily star or ss news.
They don't want to fire him now after commiting to give him a go I can understand that but they can't come out and say they will back him because if they lose the next 3 they will probably have to reverse that and then look indecisive.
If he doesn't lose hand and improves the play he will be kept if he doesn't he won't be. They are hoping he improves I'm quite sure.
09 Oct 2024 17:59:00
Ork, I disagree that the club should pander to the media and come out and make a statement every time the media starts to speculate.
Personally I think pandering to the media's speculation by making statements only adds fuel to the fire and gives justification to their morbid ramblings.
The club say nothing because there is nothing to say. They will speak only when they have something they need to communicate.
You don't win by playing to the media's tune. You take back control by not playing the media's silly little games.
The club hierarchy have a monthly meeting, that has happened to line up with the last and current international break. Which unfortunately is a time where the media have less real news to report so start tumbling down the rabbit hole to Wonderland.
When a decision is made and something is happening I'm sure the club will make a statement. Until that point the manager is the manager, end of conversation.
09 Oct 2024 21:04:14
Ork, what if they’re in talks with someone else to take over but it’s not quite over the line yet. They wouldn’t come out and back Twn Hag, equally they wouldn’t announce his departure until they had their desired replacement.
Who knows what went on in that meeting.
10 Oct 2024 09:05:07
Lads there's no panic. These guys are just in the door. They probably want to ensure that the next step is correct. If they sack ETH right this second without appointing the correct individual next, they bring upon themselves a lot of pressure. And maybe the person they want is not available.
Whereas they can carry on and wait to appoint the correct man.