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11 Aug 2022 23:34:28
Sell Rashford and get Antony, good deal in my eyes and he wants to come to United at least.

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12 Aug 2022 06:02:27
Anthony is not available bud. Ajax has been clear on that.

12 Aug 2022 07:01:16
Seriously…. I except that Rashford been pants for 2 years, but how on earth do you know or even think that Anthony is any better, a year ago you had never even heard of him…big deal he played well for 1 season in Dutchland! This is greatest example of media boost now he the saviour in your mind of united…the mind boggles.

12 Aug 2022 07:31:51
If we sell Rashford, I'm hoping Garnacho will be give his chance. The money should be spent on buying a couple of midfielders instead.

12 Aug 2022 09:12:15
I would sell Rashford, right now, call his bluff. This looks like posturing to get more money and a new contract out of United when he hasn’t earned it. Sell him now and give Garnacho a run. We desperately need a central striker to score goals and Rashford isn’t it, his goals have dried up and he didn’t look interested last season
If PSG want him then off you go, don’t let the door hit you on the backside.

12 Aug 2022 09:12:56
I don't get this lust to push Rashford out the door.

Our current forward options are:

Ronaldo, soon to be 38 and wants to leave.

Sancho, on paper our best forward player but has yet to match his Dortmund form in a red shirt.

Martial, a player with bags of talent, but has a poor injury record and a questionable attitude. Flattered to deceive in the past 7 years.

Rashford, potentially very good, had a few injuries and a loss of form over the past 12-15 months.

That's 4 players with any sort of experience for 3 starting spots in the team. However, one doesn't want to be here and another struggles to be fit.

Beyond those 4 we have:

Elanga, had a good 3 month spell under Rangnick. Hasn't played as well under EtH yet.

Garnacho, recently turned 18 (on pre-season tour), very talented but only played 30 minutes of senior football.

Amad, talented but struggled to play regularly in Scottish football doesn't bode well. Really needs a loan.

Pellistri, another with talent but seems to be struggling to show it consistently. Needs a loan.

If we sell Rashford and Ronaldo we might get around 50m.

But we will only have Sancho, Martial, Garnacho and Elanga as forward options. Plus maybe one more if we can buy someone, although those options seem to be running thin.

Before either Ronaldo or Rashford leave we need at least one more forward. If one leaves we need two more forwards. If both leave we need three new forwards.

Does anyone have any confidence in the club signing 2 forwards? Let alone 3.

12 Aug 2022 09:39:48
Shappy, he has been bad for more than 24 months, I don't know where you got 12-15. and he is becoming worse.
Insert any young player there and they won't be any worse, in fact, they may even prove to be a big improvement.
Rashford himself was very young when he got his chance, why can't Garnacho, for example, get his?

12 Aug 2022 10:08:31
Fully agree, Shappy.

Within the squad we need six first team ready players to play in our front three, one of whom can be an up and coming youngster with huge potential, but no more.

Currently:

LW: Rashford and Garnacho
CF: Ronaldo and Martial
RW: Sancho and Elanga

That’s too weak already. To let Rashford go would be crazy. We already need one forward to replace Elanga in the ‘six’, possibly two if Ronaldo leaves. Three would be unobtainable.

12 Aug 2022 10:46:56
Let’s be fair about it too, what evidence is there that Sancho been any better then Rashford! Both are not great that’s for sure, but neither is better then the other, but Rashford takes all the stick, and you close your eyes to Sancho shortcomings!

12 Aug 2022 11:43:09
Trololo, respectfully you are talking out your derriere when you say Rashford has been poor for more than 24 months. It's just not true no matter how many times the Rashford haters reiterate the party line.

Last season he was poor, 5 gaols and 2 assists. The season before that though he managed 19 goals and 11 assists. 30 goal contributions in a n injury hit campaign where he played for 5 months with pain killing injections in his back rather than have a spinal operation.

Everyone says about Ronaldo carrying United last season due to his 24 goals and 3 assists, That's a total of 27 goal contributions, three shy of Rashford's total in the 2020/ 21 season. A season you have just tried to say he played poorly in.

Logically if Rashford has 30 goal contributions and has played poorly then Ronaldo must have been worse only getting 27 goal contributions. Otherwise your talking bobbins.

His form tailed off in the final couple of months of the 2020/ 21 season due to injury. He was poor for the entire 2021/ 22 season.

So let's do the maths. One whole season (2021/ 22), we'll say 12 months. Plus the final 2 months of the 2020/ 21 season. If you really want to be harsh we'll include the first month of the 2022/ 23 season (even though its only been one game.

So 12 months + 2 months + 1 month = 15 months.

Which is what I said, and at least 9 months less than your "bad for more than 24 months".

Newyorker, spot on. I think people don't like Rashford for his off field exploits. Which seems odd considering his off field exploits include making sure the poorest kids in society don't go hungry.

Rashford was crap last season, 5 goals and 2 assists was poor.

Sancho last season managed 3 goals and 4 assists. Is that any better?

BOTH Rashford AND Sancho only contributed 7 goal contributions each last season. So where is argument that Sancho isn't good enough as well as Rashford?

Was Sancho any better than Rashford against Brighton? It seems EtH didn't think so subbing Sancho but keeping Rashford on.

Since Sir Alex retired only two players have managed 30 or more goal contributions in a single campaign. Bruno Fernandes and Marcus Rashford.

That means Rashford as a forward who's main job is to provide goal contributions to the team has had a better season than any of Lukaku, Zlatan, RvP, Rooney, Falcao and Ronaldo in a single season.

he has also managed that less than 2 years ago.

He was poor last season, no one is denying that. But he has the potential to be one of our best players. Kicking him out the door when we have so few other options in the forward areas is more than madness, its vindictive.

12 Aug 2022 12:51:25
Shappy, I understand what you are saying, but I can't agree on that.

I'm of the opinion that Ronaldo didn't carry United last season, so that doesn't make a strong case.

Is everything about stats? Imo, and I said this several times, Rashford was bad even when he scored. He kept the ball too long, was greedy, tried to run through players and failed and slowed our attacks considarebly. But hey, he was at least scoring, so no one spoke about it. I don't know how many times I yelled at the TV for him to just pass the ball.

I don't rate him at all, but hey, that is just my opinion. I do hope he will start doing better, but I just don't see it.

Regarding Sancho, it was his first season in PL, where, until RR came, he didn't get into the team that often. And you can clearly see him trying more than Rashford.
Last match he played after he was ill for several days, I suppose that had an impact. And Sancho didn't get the ball as much, but what was the reason for that, I don't really know.

ETH made his subs at 89th minute, which I think was a mistake. Who is to say that not subbing Rashford wasn't a mistake as well? I would have subbed both, at least around 80th minute, subs at the 89th minute were useless.

13 Aug 2022 09:00:52
Shappy

Rashford is going into the last year of his contract, or so I heard. Do we offer him a nice fancy new one with a pay rise, wait until he can go on a free next summer or sell him now whilst he is worth something? Based on his decline I would sell him now, so what would you do?





 

 

 
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