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06 Feb 2020 12:01:36
what will you prefer out of these two options?

Sell Pogba, get around 100 mil for him and reinvest the same to strengthen other areas.

Keep Pogba and Play him (provided he is fit) with McT and Bruno.

{Ed002's Note - Then he could run his contract down and leave for nothing. Great idea.}

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06 Feb 2020 12:32:04
It’s a no-brainer for me sell him and reinvest what is the point in keeping a player that has zero interest in being at the club.

If the club block his move and he runs his contract down and then leaves for nothing Then that is ridiculous business sense.

I’d personally tell him now that they will grant his request to leave at the end of the season and hope he would give his all until that time.

06 Feb 2020 12:41:01
Becks, we won't get anywhere near 100m for Pogba. He wants out, has a year left on his deal and has hardly played all season.

Would you want United to spend 100m on a player with 1 year left on their contract, who had spent almost an entire season out injured and who has actively tried to get out of his club for the last two years

60-70m is the most we will get for Pogba. He has huge wages and very few clubs can afford to match or come close to matching his wages. Which means there are only a handful of potential buyers, in reality probably only one or two, and neither want him enough to get pulled into a bidding war.

If Zidane leave Real Madrid in the summer or sooner then Real Madrid's interest in Pogba will leave with him. Barcelona no longer have any interest. Bayern Munich aren't interested. That would leave Juventus as the only club with a declared interest. Personally I think PSG might become an option if Real Madrid push through a deal for Mbappe as they will want to be seen to be bringing in a top French player if Mbappe leaves.

All that considered I would sell him for whatever we can and move on. We will never win anything with players who don't want to be here. Pogba wanting to leave dragged on last season, its dragged on this season, do we really want it to drag on next season?

06 Feb 2020 12:46:52
I say sell both Pogba and Martial.
No more tolerating any sulking players.
The cultural reboot will be complete.

Apart from those 2, all other players put a good shift even if things don't go well.

06 Feb 2020 12:15:55
I will personally prefer selling him 02.

06 Feb 2020 13:31:45
Sell and move on. We will be in the same position down the line when it is not going his way.
The club has not provided the team he was probably promised, he in turn has not played as we had hoped. It's time for both to part ways.
I think it's a shame Mctominy got injured, a 3 of Fernandes, Fred and Mctominy could have been decent for the last few months of the season.

06 Feb 2020 14:23:35
Do we not have a 12 month option on his contract? If we do he then has 2 years not 1 to which he is contracted? Does that not affect his market value? Prepared to be corrected.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, there is an option but forcing a player who already wants out to stay could result in all sort of problems for the club. The value is unaffected.}

06 Feb 2020 15:08:29
The only way the one year option would work would be to force Pogba to stay an extra year then be in the same situation summer 2021. There is nothing to be gained from that. Ed002 has said there are rule that stop us forcing the extension just to make more money as he has an extra year on his contract.

So are options are:

1, sell him this summer.

2, force him to stay then lose him on a free in 2021.

3, activate the one year extension option and be stuck back in this situation in the summer of 2021, while also having another year of him sulking.

Sell him and be done with it. This season we have paid him 290k per week. It doesn't matter how good he could be, if he isn't on the pitch its a waste of money. Why do that again next season.

06 Feb 2020 15:37:42
Thanks Ed002. And Shappy. it was just a question. The replies make perfect sense. Personally I think he should have gone some time ago and only see him as a disruptive influence.

06 Feb 2020 17:40:17
If money was not the driving force of the glazers, I'd force the extra year on his contract and tell him to stay at home. Let him waste a further 2 year of his life, just like he has been wasting our time. Fergie had his card well marked, leopards and spots.

06 Feb 2020 18:10:07
Jrred

What reputation would that give United? It is going to be hard enough attracting players with the useless manager and mess of a club, without being seen as a destroyer of careers. Whoever made the decision to force Pogba to stay last summer was an idiot. They should have got rid and moved on. It’s amateur.

06 Feb 2020 21:10:22
Move him on please. Its best for everyone.

06 Feb 2020 22:24:42
Shappy - Knowing the way the Club operate I just don't think there is any chance they will entertain selling one of its most prised assets for less than we paid for him and certainly not for £60-70m.

Pogba is one of the most famous and marketable athletes in the world, he effectively has two years left on his contract (not one) and he's still only 26 years old. Whilst he's undoubtedly been disappointing in a Utd shirt, on his day he remains one of the most talented midfielders in the world and will no doubt benefit from playing with better players. Expectations at Utd continue to remain unrealistically high with many fans expecting him to be a Kante, Yaya Toure and Zidane all rolled into one.

Pogba is not just a footballer, he's a character, a personality, he's a brand in his own right. In a world of celebrity and social media Pogba is perhaps more valuable to Utd off the pitch than on it at this moment in time.

Utd need a figure to promote the brand and if they lose Pogba they risk becoming irrelevant both off and on the pitch.

Sponsorship and advertising revenue rely on the Club remaining relevant, continuing to generate interest, column inches, click bait etc. Pogba generates interest, he's a selling point for the Club.

From a footballing perspective let's say common sense prevailed and Pogba was sold for £60-70m. Realistically what would that money buy us? A more committed player perhaps, but certainly not someone with the marketability or worldwide appeal of a Paul Pogba.

Let's see what happens but I'd be amazed if he was sold for anything less than we paid for him and I think the Club would want significantly more than that!

I get the feeling this will be another summer dominated by Paul Pogba.

07 Feb 2020 04:59:37
DLIB, Have to disagree on that point.

If the performance on the pitch improves, automatically everything else will follow.

The basic attribute expected of any player on the pitch is to put some effort and be passionate for their club, respect the fans who are paying their money whio travel miles to watch them.

07 Feb 2020 08:22:17
TRD - I agree I was merely speculating as to why Utd appear so reluctant to sell him. I would definitely move him on in the summer but I'm just not convinced the Club will let him go for less than they paid for him. In fact I think they'll want a tidy profit before they even consider it. Of course this is only my opinion but I think we're in for another summer dominated by Paul Pogba unfortunately.

07 Feb 2020 10:16:29
DLIB, The club refused to sell him last summer for anything less than 120m. The best offer the club received was 50m + a player the buying club was trying to shift.

Why would any club offer more this summer after Pogba has a year less on his contract, and has spent most of the season out injured.

The club over paid for him when we signed him. No other club would come close to paying what United did.

The clubs options are cut him loose this summer, or drag his departure out for either another year then he leaves on a free, or two years then he leaves on a free. The offers won't be getting any bigger for him.

07 Feb 2020 11:12:28
Shappy - It's only your opinion that the Club won't get more than £60-70m for him. If that's the case it's my opinion that he won't be sold.

If nobody is prepared to meet his valuation I think he'll be forced to stay. What that says about the Club or does for the team and the re building process remains to be seen but it will represent another huge embarrassment if they can't get a decent fee for a global superstar in an era where ridiculous transfer fees are becoming commonplace.

Real Madrid paid £130m for Hazard a 28 year old in the last year of his contract.

Athletico paid over £100m last summer for a child Joao Felix.

Barca have paid over £100m for the likes of Dembele, Courtinho and Greizmann.

Pogba is a global icon, he remains an immensely talented footballer, he's a World Cup winner and at 26 years old with effectively two years still left on his contract the Club will want to make a handsome profit if they are to lose their most marketable asset.

Let's just see what happens in the summer.

07 Feb 2020 13:25:41
DLIB, I know its just my opinion. But can you really say you've seen something from Pogba or a desperate need for him open up at one of the clubs that could afford him that would drive them to offer more for him this summer than last?

07 Feb 2020 15:40:43
Shappy - I completely agree with you pal it seems ridiculous to me that the Club appear reluctant to sell a player who obviously doesn't want to be at the Club. I also agree that Pogba is only worth what other interested Clubs are prepared to invest. Utd have sold other big stars such as Di Maria and Lukaku for a loss so I don't necessarily subscribe to the idea that they hold players prisoner.

I'm not an expert and it's pure speculation on my part but Pogba is a global superstar and some players are so famous that they actually transcend their own sport. Maybe Pogba falls within that bracket. I can only think that if Utd sell Pogba it could potentially damage the brand and make the Club less marketable and attractive to future investment hence the reluctance to move him on and re build the team.

Anyway what do I know and maybe I'm just overthinking things.





 

 

 
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