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05 Jan 2020 21:20:57
Several people on here questioning why a player would want Mino Raiola as their agent.

While others are questioning the ability and contribution of Jesse Lingard.

Well it now looks like we will find out the answers to both with Mino Raiola becoming Jesse's agent.

If Mino can get Jesse a transfer to a top side or a huge new deal then it will show both how good an agent Raiola is, and how valued Lingard is by either our club or another.

{Ed047's Note - well someone sorted us in excess of £30 million for Iwobi and got £80 million off of you for McGuire so literally anything’s possible.

Won’t mean he’s any good.

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05 Jan 2020 22:23:58


I still can't believe United payed £80 million for Maguire.

Talk about over hyped.

Arsenal and United are in the same boat. Slowly sinking boat. Both boards have given them a colander to try and bail them out.

{Ed047's Note - Emery was an absolute colander and we had to get rid. First signs from Arteta are good but so were the first from Ollie so it’s currently anyone’s guess on him. 🤞

05 Jan 2020 22:27:58
I don't think there's any denying how good an agent Raiola is? Is there? Surely he's already answered that question many times.

06 Jan 2020 00:10:50
if united now give lingard a pay rise. i am officially going on youtube to act like that t t blippi who my grand daughter watches. if he can earn money acting like a k ob o can i.

{Ed047's Note - just for angelred’s info I was referring to Lingard not Raiola.

06 Jan 2020 02:10:58
Raiola is possibly the best at making money for his clients (even more so for himself) but does that mean he is the best agent? Not necessarily in my book. The best agent is the one who looks after his players so that they get decent money but just as importantly develop their playing potential to the maximum and get the best opportunities to have a long, successful and fulfilling career.

06 Jan 2020 06:05:26
We bought Bebé in the past. Was valued by his club, our club, SAF and the scouts. Just saying!

06 Jan 2020 07:14:29
Angel, I agree. Just that some people have been questioning him based on the idea of public image and how he might negatively effect that with his interviews.

Ed047, I said in the summer that Maguire wouldn't be my first choice and that there were much better players available for much less. I was told his weaknesses were minor and that his "fantastic leadership and organisational" qualities would massively improve our defence. To which I said I hadn't really seen anything from him to suggest he has great leadership and organisational skills.

I'll admit he has stepped up and shown the right attitude and he does seem like a good leader (but not a fantastic one, certainly not inspirational like Robson or Cantona) .

But he has shown that he cannot organise a defence, most of the time he is the one out of position. You can't be an organiser if you can't even keep yourself in check.

The issue we have with our defence atm is that they are looking to Harry to organise and pull them together. Yet he isn't that sort of player. He needs someone alongside him to talk him through a game and keep him in check.

{Ed047's Note - you’re right Shappy but I think the club just needed to do something and Leicester just sat there rubbing their hands.

06 Jan 2020 08:16:28
ED0047, At Utd it's the blind leading blind.

{Ed047's Note - very much so mate

06 Jan 2020 11:41:36
Not sure where Jesse thinks he can go after Utd? He’s garbage!

{Ed047's Note - he’s not good mate, another Cleverly, Welbeck, Walcott, Wilshere type of player, flattered to deceive and ultimately couldn’t cut it.

06 Jan 2020 13:27:36
Raiola obviously loves a challenge Ed.

06 Jan 2020 14:35:27
I don't think Jesse is or will ever be world class.

Yet he is still a very good player who happens to be in a patch of awful form. His off field antics don't endear him to the fans, which makes him an easy target.
His poor form has also coincided with his mother suffering from illness and him needing to take over looking after his younger brother and sister. So, to a point he has my sympathy.

I think in the right team, with the right players around him playing a style that suits him then he could be a very good player for a team.

He has shown with his key goals in big games and knockout competitions that he has the temperament to play on the biggest stage. In a team that plays a high press with players in front of him making good clever runs and playing with some confidence then Jesse could do very well.

However, he isn't the sort of player who can drag a team up by their laces or carry them on his back. Which is sadly what is being asked of him at United.

We slate him as an attacking midfielder who doesn't create or score goals. Yet who else is carrying the burden of creating chances from midfield? Matic? Fred? McTominay? It makes him an easy player to make out of the game with little else coming from midfield. While we have pace in front of him and out wide, but other than running at player do people see an ability to unlock a defence with clever passing and movement from any of Rashford, Martial or James?

Lingard's poor form is a symptom of the team struggling to create chances, rather than it being the cause. Maybe someone like Maddison or Bruno Fernandes might be able to create more for a time, or be more clinical when presented a chance.

But how long until teams realise they just need to double up on them to snuff out our ability to create chances.

Saying the players aren't good might be true, but it's far too simplistic to fully explain our problems.

06 Jan 2020 16:24:31
the players not being good is the main reason of our problems.

we lack quality in areas of the pitch that need quality if we are to win games.

the midfield is poor. everyone in the country knew it was poor last season when we got demolished by everton and embarrassed by 2 teams already relegated

we pissed around in the summer like every other season boasting we have money to spend and we will invest yet look at us now?

injuries galore and now we a pardon my french f****D.

06 Jan 2020 18:07:17
Lingard is good squad player at best and should not be used as our main No10 - which he is,
Which is why we aren’t creating chances.



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