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15 Dec 2019 16:10:02
Typical united that. 8 points fro. Last 12 however the points were dropped at home to villa and Everton whereas we got the maximum against spurs and at City. Kinda knew that would happen today, however we move on and hopefully some consistency comes soon.

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15 Dec 2019 16:13:54
I had that feeling as well; and it was reinforced after 5 minutes.

Really need to work on other tactical options. We are way too one dimensional.

15 Dec 2019 16:24:19
Not consistent enough or well coached enough to be a top 4 team. Possible solutions - get a really good first team coach, sign a good attacking midfielder/ link man (or play Pogba there) . Aim to win Europa league as entry into Champions League and then build on this with summer signings.

15 Dec 2019 16:28:04
Decent performance and we were abit unlucky. We lack a top class forward and apart from Greenwood, which would really make a difference becoming off the bench?

15 Dec 2019 17:03:34
It was a bad performance. Everton were playing with a third string midfield, but we were lost again.

Two key problems in the team.

Lingard isn’t good enough. He has effort and pace, but his passing and finishing are appalling. If we’re going to play with two defensive mids, then we need a top class number 10.

Martial is a liability. No effort and no idea how to play as a striker. Any time we try to put the ball into the box he’s hanging back on the edge instead of busting a gut to get on the end of it. If we persist with him, we will never challenge.

15 Dec 2019 17:14:14
Agree with that Danny.

Martial at 9 is not working with these players around him against teams that defend.

A high energy pressing second striker who can slip little passes to him or a proper number 10 might make the difference. Or a proper number 9 with him supporting. But he doesn't defend well.

Mata, lingard and Andreas all have major faults in their game. They do some things well, but with big weaknesses.

Just look at the difference De Brune and Maddison make to their teams.

We only seem to play well upfront when we outnumber the defenders.

15 Dec 2019 17:29:16
It's been done to death that we need a top class no 10 to break down such oppositions.
Hopefully we get one in Jan.

15 Dec 2019 17:33:52
Danny another way to look at it would be why do we keep chucking in these mindless crosses if he is open at the edge of the box.

I really don't get this incessant martial bashing everytime he has a quiet game, he is the only player among the front 6 who can consistently make passes to his own teammates in final 3rd.

Watch the last 5 games dan james has played and show me 5 good crosses that he delivered that reach his intended target. Rashford refuses to pass unless he is getting the ball back, lingard has a touch that makes lukaku's look good and passing skills that would make smalling's look like iniesta. But it's all martial's fault we draw, because he doesn't run enough.

The reason rashford can make those runs inside is martial takes up the space rashford leaves open, he is the only one who holds up the ball, he is the only one who looks to pass to players who might be in better position than him rather than the put your head down and have a stupid shot you can't score from routine that all the other front 4 do. He is a striker who not doesn't get any service but is actually responsible for providing whatever creativity we need in attack.

But maybe he shouldn't be doing that, he should be running around without actually passing properly or getting in a good cross or shooting blindly with no actual chance of scoring, that will definitely get people thinking he is a great player.

15 Dec 2019 18:49:23
Its not martials fault he is not a cf really.
I am one of his fiercest critics and i don't like watching him play but i thought he was the most creative of our front 3 today but he is not a real goal threat.
Greenwood looks like scoring no matter how long he is on for.
Poor performance today.
Not at all surprising its been the same over and over again. Perhaps its worth taking a different approach to those teams that sit deep.

15 Dec 2019 18:49:26
Answer is simple. GED rid of manager who has failed everywhere including here. No brain.

15 Dec 2019 19:39:20
CSM

It is not about running around blindly. He is not making runs across defenders and stretching them when James, Rash or the fullbacks are wide. That is his job in that role. You are either a front post number 9 or a back post number 9, or if you are really lucky you can mix it up and do both.

He needs to shift the center backs. The he can make space for others, or he can score himself.

James is also getting lots of ball in space and we are not delivering enough product.

Rash had a tough game, but he is on the hottest streak at the moment. Probably why he gets less criticism.

Lingard is good defensively in big games. For a man utd 10 it is not enough.

Watch AM when james is wide with the ball. Watch Rash. Watch Jesse. I don't understand what is going through their heads.

Since this has turned into a rant, I may as well add that Victor at the back now needs to be dropped for Axel. He looks lost and until he refinds some of last year's form he should sit out.

Rant over 🤣.

15 Dec 2019 22:35:18
Wow. Repeated words from the wise. We already know that Ole isn't good enough. No need for reminders.

15 Dec 2019 23:04:43
Ole didn’t miss 23 of the 24 shots we had though.

15 Dec 2019 23:47:00
how many were on target.

16 Dec 2019 02:26:40
Dodgy when james and especially rashford are wide, he drops backs because he looking to do the give and go pass, lingard tries that but his touch kills the attack more often than not. Niether of them can cross well enough, unless we get lucky we ain't scoring from a cross.

Ken he isn't a traditional no 9, but unless we get a good no 10 and midfield, a martial type of a cf is what we need. Did you forget how bad it was for lukaku at times? When pogba isn't playing we have no creativity, our best chances today came from long hoofs from the cb's to james and rashford. There is nothing being created for the cf's.

Look at greenwood's goal today or martial's goal in the derby. Those are their own goals, with little help from the team, there isn't much most strikers in the world can do, with service we provide them.

16 Dec 2019 10:15:03
But martial isn't a striker it doesn't matter who he plays with he is just doesn't get it he doesn't understand the role. He is not a striker.
Jesse is not a no10.
Terrible decision to play them in positions they can't deliver in most of the time.

16 Dec 2019 15:41:46
It s crystal clear we need a 10. From those we seem to be interested in, only Erikssen or Fernandes maybe are available in January. Our top Target - Madison won't move for sure in Jan.





 

 

 
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