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05 Nov 2019 17:52:56
The term reckless is what is right about the challenge. In law if you throw a big rock at a car, not intending to damage it but you smash a window you are reckless. You should have thought what may happen by committing the throw. Same as the tackle, Son didn't mean to break his ankle, but should have known that making the rash challenge was reckless and he may cause injury. Red card all day long.

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05 Nov 2019 19:32:21
There was no intention to cause injury and in this case it was not just the actual foul but how Gomes landed and twisted after it that contributed to the severity of the injury. Could you reasonably foresee such a bad injury from that challenge? I would argue that 99 times out of a hundred it would not have happened. Compare that challenge to one where a player flies in to a challenge off the ground high and two footed and there is clearly a high risk of injury to the opponent. The latter case deserves a red case. Son's in my opinion does not.

06 Nov 2019 06:52:00
What crazy law allows people to throw rocks at car?

Tackling in football is legal unlike throwing rocks at car which isn't ( i hope), just because an injury resulted from it doesn't make it an illegal tackle. Son's tackle was not reckless enough to be viewed as one meant to deliberately cause injury so not a red card whatever the end result of the tackle.

06 Nov 2019 09:51:47
I think the issue was that Son thought he should have been given a foul then he went in with a reactionary tackle that resulted in a serious injury. I think that is why he was so upset, he knew he didn't need to make that tackle but he did out of spite.

I agree it wasn't the worst tackle you see, and the way the player fell is what caused the injury.

For me though it brings about a bigger issue. Is "professional fouling" acceptable and should it be punished more severely?

It's used quite specifically by some coaches, cough Pep cough, as a way of defending. It allows a team to push higher safe in the knowledge that if they lose the ball they will just commit a foul to give them time to get back behind the ball.

Intentionally committing fouls which could lead to injury is poor sportsmanship at best, cynically bending the rules at worst.

Something needs to change or we will keep seeing preventable injuries.

06 Nov 2019 21:54:52
Never a red.

07 Nov 2019 11:10:37
James, under current laws its not. However, should a player be allowed to deliberately foul a fellow professional (which can lead to serious injury, intentional or not) to be just a yellow card?

let's change the wording to professional dive for when a player is anticipating foul so they go down.

That's cheating. In my eyes intentionally breaking the rules and fouling a player to stop a potential goal only to receive a yellow card at most is also giving a side an unfair advantage.

It's a key tactic to Man City's defending. Press high, over commit both full backs to create overloads and peg the opposition back, then if they break on the counter bring them down, take the yellow card and get men behind the ball for when the free kick is taken.

Pep calls it a tactical foul. Call it what it is, cheating. They need to increase the punishment somehow to fit the crime. As its taking the competitive edge away from football. Smaller teams can't challenge the bigger teams as the only real tactic they have is to hit them on the counter, if that is taken away from them then they can't challenge them at all.





 

 

 
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