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01 Oct 2019 14:33:54
£900 million spent since Fergie and from the current squad the only players I wouldn't sell right now are Dalot, Tuanzebe, Maguire, Lindeloff, AWB, McTominay, James, Greenwood, Gomes, Williams and Martial. It's not as though any of this list are amazing either, it's just that they at least might have some potential to kick on and become decent or they have just arrived and I'm interested to see if they settle and have something to offer.

As far as I'm concerned the rest of the squad is a shower who should never have been anywhere near wearing a man utd shirt.

How can supposedly smart business people look what they've got for the money (not their money admittedly) and be satisfied? How can they not see that their approach is not working especially when they can look at City and liverpool to see what can be achieved with at least some semblance of a plan and some people who know about running a FOOTBALL club.

I know the Glazers are about the money but surely they understand that crap product = less customers = less revenues = less profit. The legacy of our glorious history can only take us so far and it must be running on fumes by now? By the way, did anyone notice that the attendance lat night was only 73,000? The start of the fall off in interest maybe/ hopefully?

Ed002, are Utd any closer to finding a Director of Football? At this rate I'm thinking of putting myself forward.

{Ed002's Note - As I previously explained the circumstances would likely not be right for van der Sar at this time. They firstly need to make a decision and either stick with the mistake of OGS and ride it out, or offer Spurs £35M for MP and then look at the structure again.}

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01 Oct 2019 15:00:18
Perhaps a very hard question to answer ed- but out of those two options what do you personally think they may do?

{Ed002's Note - Firstly, the owners are not responsible for making such decisions. I expect they will ride it out - at least for a while.}

01 Oct 2019 15:21:16
they will ride it out until around Christmas again and then sack him

they look even more like children when they go in for poch, promise him the world and set him up to fail as well.

the vicious circle that is man utd.

01 Oct 2019 17:48:05
I would add de Gea and Romero to the list, as I think we have a settled goalkeeping department.

01 Oct 2019 18:24:07
Making a coherently thought out strong positive decisions seems beyond us. If they stick with OGS it defies belief at the damage they are doing and could continue to do.

If there is a realistic option of getting Poch then for heaven sake stop dithering and wallowing in emotional sentimental drivel, for heavens sake get it done.

01 Oct 2019 18:38:40
I think it’ll be a funny old coincidence when Poch leaves Spurs and Ole gets pushed. If we are 10th/11th at Christmas then he’s a dead man walking.

01 Oct 2019 18:51:49

Christmas? I think if we don’t beat Newcastle he has to be hanging by a thread. The International break gives the club chance to deal with it, however decision making hasn’t been a strong point.

01 Oct 2019 18:57:57
But Poch has never won anything. Was that not a prerequisite for the job? I'd have him, and always said so. But someone told me that you had to have someone who's won something. can't remember who it was.

01 Oct 2019 19:05:58
I said it was a question over him going back to when we appointed Mourinho, what three and a half years ago, however I also said he was a dark horse for the role at the time. Times have also changed poor decisions likely mean the very top managers like an Allegri may not want to put their reputation on the line with decision makers that we have and paucity of players. Poch has also done far better with Spurs than expected. Right now as we continue to sink I think Poch would be a very good bet and he does play young players

So Nou, given the choice would you stick with the failing manager or sack him and bring in Poch?

01 Oct 2019 17:25:47
Hi Ed002. Are you aware if Poch would be interested in joining MUFC?

{Ed002's Note - My understanding is that a new challenge would be attractive at some point in the not too distant future. The two obvious options are clubs with coaches who probably have a limited future without a step change. Spurs, I understand may have used to enquire via a third party about the interest of a replacement - SHOULD they need it. Manchester United may decide to ride it out with OGS and have been throwing money at making changes but with players who, in reality, need a better (or at least different) coach. Mauricio Pochettino would want to understand very clearly what the pot of boiling oil he could potentially be stepping in to is like. He would want control, or at least reasonable control, over transfers. The issue with MAdrid is Mr Mourinho and MP will know that Real Madrid have a split board about JMs return - but the force of Perez is behind him. The malcontents have gone or will go in the summer. The fans want a solution and want JM which does not bode well for MP, although he has his support at the club. Manchester United are an option but are run by amateurs and there might well be significant restrictions on clearing out and rebuilding after the club has continued to piss money up the wall. So maybe he will stay at Spurs and have the quiet life, or look to other options.}

01 Oct 2019 20:20:42
Thanks for your comprehensive answer Ed002. Really appreciate your insight. Any chance you could tell us who Spurs have been sounding out (sorry! ) .

{Ed002's Note - Allegri.}

01 Oct 2019 20:42:57
Thanks for all that Ed, much appreciated if not very uplifting.

Reading between the lines it seems to me there might be some people behind the scenes who are doing very nicely out of the status quo so are resistant to any change.

01 Oct 2019 21:21:46

Thanks for the very insightful information. Last summer was the icing on the cake when no midfield reinforcements were brought in when even the least smartest fan could've figured out that 2 midfielders were an absolute necessity. Letting Sanchez and Lukaku go without any replacement showed apathy towards the fans and any hope of success.

It is absolutely astonishing that they've been briefing to the press about having had a "successful" summer and using it as evidence that what they're doing is working. Its borderline delusion. Maguire is decent but for that price we could've gotten two players of his quality. Wan Bissaka's price was way inflated as well. We even overpaid for Daniel James. Thankfully they're playing well unlike our previous expensive flops.

I think most fans would be happy if we bring in Pochetino. But he will need to be allowed to clear out some of the squad that is simply not good enough and will need major churning and retooling. Also expectations will need to be tempered with proper communication with the fans and media but I think resentment is simply growing amongst the fans.

If the same people that have been negotiating for us since Sir Alex left are the ones operating in the transfer market I have no hope. They will do the same thing to Pochetino that they did to Moyes, LVG, Jose and now OGS.

Am I correct in thinking the restrictions you mention on rebuilding are due to troubles with FFP and dropping revenue from TV and sponsorships as a result of failure to qualify for the UCL?

These amateurs as you describe them are destroying a great institution bit by bit for the last 8 years and its really sad to see.

{Ed002's Note - The restrictions relate to lower income and constant failure to address the issues.}

01 Oct 2019 21:55:24
Thanks for the reply Ed002.

I hope they find some sense and make the necessary changes in the structure, bring the right people in and appoint the right coach. A bit too much for this board unfortunately.

I doubt it will happen but hope is all we have.

{Ed002's Note - Which board?}

01 Oct 2019 22:02:06
Thanks again Ed002. Pretty please come and sort our club out and rid us of the amateurs.

01 Oct 2019 23:39:27
Doc, you do know that Ed002 is an AI and not a real person?

02 Oct 2019 02:00:07
Red Man, I'd have Poch here without a doubt. IF our current manager can't turn things round.

Winning a trophy wasn't a prerequisite for me when choosing a manager. It's why I argued the likes of Eddie Howe should be considered.

It was you that said winning a trophy was a necessity for any applicants. I believe you were quite vocal in this regard, especially when Moyes was appointed. Nice to see you've mellowed on this view. Only realistic, really, when the number of coaches in the big leagues who've actually won anything, becomes a smaller and smaller group.

02 Oct 2019 09:38:57
Lol Manc Man. AI would still do a better job than the amateurs.

02 Oct 2019 09:59:27
Thing is Noucamp with the club being so badly, we will just continue to burn through coaches no matter how good they are.

Sure, a better coach will get more out of what he has but without the players he really needs and the supporting infrastructure this can only take them so far.

Coming to Utd is starting to look like career suicide for both managers and players.

02 Oct 2019 10:41:09
Who are the amateurs running the show you speak of Ed?

{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant - the MU supports don't know anything about the workings of the club and tehre is no point giving them names to throw toxic abuse at.}

02 Oct 2019 12:25:31
I agree MancMan. I'd give Ole the time and players he needs. Just being realistic, though. If he doesn't get the results, I don't know if those above will have the patience to sit it out.



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