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29 Jul 2019 08:57:01
If you haven't read Ed002 travel guide on the European Soccer page, I suggest you have a look. I'm still laughing 😂😂.

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29 Jul 2019 09:56:21
Agree with all he said except the north of England. Maybe true about Manchester and pool but York near I live is nice. 😃.

29 Jul 2019 10:59:57
Paris just keeps getting worse and worse, a shadow of the place it used to be, great museums though.

29 Jul 2019 16:12:39
I love Manchester and its feel. Born and grew up there so that might be why. Most places have their good and bad parts.

29 Jul 2019 16:31:05
Manchester is a cool place for the unpretentious. Great gigs, great local music scene and attracts some of the best underground and indie acts in the world. Some good art events, although not on the same level as other major cities. Some great bars and probably the best local beers I've ever tasted, and I'm currently in what is supposed to be the best beer region in the world, it doesn't compare.

Good vibe too, love how alternative people can walk around Salford without anyone battering an eyelid, that can't be said for most of the rest of Britain. Platts Field park on April 20th is also cracking, as is the park during summer months, just people all doing their own thing and bothering no-one, unless City fans are out en masse.

But like AJH, spent my early childhood and a chunk of my adult life there, so have some emotional attachment, although that can't be said of the other places I've lived, although Lille is growing on me.

{Ed0333's Note - I’ll take you’re word for it mate. Every time I go to Manchester city Centre all I see is wannabe gangsters all over the place (and that’s just the women). I can’t comment on the beer as I’m no expert same goes with the bars and clubs. I used to go to Hacienda and North which are not open anymore. If I go out in Manchester which is supremely rare nowadays it’s to Panacea which is pleasant. As for ‘alternative people’ I have no idea what that means? Are you referring to Everton fans?

29 Jul 2019 17:06:09
@Ed0333: you sure you weren't in Bolton city centre?

You do get those you mention, but they are nominal compared to places like Middlesbrough or Tunbridge Wells. The city centre was mainly students, many wannabe hipsters, bohemian types and indie kids (and in the summer it's all quiet as most the students go home) . It's definitely changed a lot since the time when I was a kid in the 80s, when gangs were all over. Now the local gangs, like in Moss Side, are more or less harmless, but visitors are unlikely to wind up there anyway.

Alternative, as in non conventional mainstream types. I spent a couple of years in Middlesbrough (now that is truly hell), you're likely to get decked for wearing anything that breaks with mainstream conventions, that doesn't happen all that much in Manchester.

Never went to Panacea, didn't seem like my kind of place, but if you ever head back, try the Marble Arch for a beer (especially their chocolate one), the area seems dodgy, but the place is great inside, old fashioned British pub. As for nightlife, I liked the Northern Quarter, places like The Castle Hotel or Soup Kitchen for a good gig, or the Ruby Lounge for a good club night (their annual Bowie fest was excellent) .

I have heard it's changed a lot in the past couple of years since I left in 2016. Apparently there's been a corporate takeover of many of the independent bars and cafés, so it's lost a lot of its authentic spirit.

{Ed0333's Note - I appreciate the lowdown buddy thankyou. I only go to Manchester when I go to watch Liverpool play as I have a very good friend from Bolton and we meet in Manny city Centre as Bolton is well Bolton. I don’t have time to bar hop or take in all the sights and sounds Manchester has to offer currently so I stick to what I know a good French restaurant in the city and panacea. What’s it like living in Lille? I went there once and found it a supremely pleasurable experience. I hope I get to go back one day or am I thinking of Lyon?

29 Jul 2019 17:59:18
Worst place in Britain is Mordor aka Birmingham. Full of nasty little orcses.

29 Jul 2019 18:37:18
Birmingham scares the life out of me even though I have family down there.
We were doing a TV show down there and it was a Birmingham vs Villa match day and the bullring shopping centre turned into a war zone after the match had finished.
Police were everywhere trying to break it up, there must have been around 200 people in a mass brawl.

29 Jul 2019 18:34:52
Ed0333: Also, speaking of Liverpool, I was very surprised when I returned in 2015, that place has changed a lot too, well dodgy back in the 80s. It's best feature was Fred's weather map haha.

{Ed0333's Note - let’s not mention Fred wasn’t he a bit of a Paedo? I may have a bit of a bias but in my experience Liverpool is just a wonderful city with the friendliest people. I love going out in Liverpool and try and get back there as much as I can. I agree it wasn’t the most aesthetically pleasing city in the 80’s mainly due to Tory neglect and Bias for other Cities in the North West (but let’s not go there). Liverpool today is a different animal culturally and aesthetically. Also there is WiFi in Liverpool as of last week so it’s deffo on the map.

29 Jul 2019 19:19:38
Liverpools good been a couple of times. Never on a night out though. So Newcastle edges it for me.

Regards Brum. Peaky Blinders isn't a tv show its a documentary just in period clothes.

{Ed0333's Note - too funny...lol. Never been to Newcastle I’ve heard incredible things tho. I was nearly jumped in a pub in Brum buy a load of insecure, racist and agitated guys once, to this day I don’t know how I talked myself out of that. England had just gone out of the World Cup on pens (again) and I’m sure it was misguided fury.

29 Jul 2019 19:33:20
@Mort: I've never been to Birmingham, but Wolverhamption was pretty dire, and that's close enough. Plus hearing people say stuff like 'dems my-yin' is hard on the ears.

@Ed0333: Lille is nice, it's a lot like Manchester, especially if you take into account Tourcoing and Roubaix (which from MEL, Metropole Europeenne Lilloise), and it's a bus ride from Bruges, Brussels and Paris, and a quick train journey from London. It's the old industrial centre of France, specialised in textile and it's where a lot of the trade was done for the nearby coal regions. It's pleasant as less racist and backwards than most of the North East of France. There's an interesting play on the architecture with it blending Flemish (it was the old capital of Flanders) and Parisian style buildings. Very multicultural but in a good way, less segregating going on due to mayoral policies. I haven't had the chance to go to Lyon yet, but hoping to do so by the end of the year, it's meant to be lovely, and one of the most culturally active places in France. That's what Lille lacks, the music scene of Manchester. But there is a great Italian place, so that always helps, they have Maradona and Napoli stuff decorating the interior.

29 Jul 2019 19:53:23
I love Manchester, but I have to admit, the city centre itself is pretty unremarkable looking. Sorry, locals 😁.

29 Jul 2019 20:35:11
Lovelyludwig. Lille is a lot like Manchester? As in they are both in the northern hemisphere? Da Fuq.

30 Jul 2019 15:20:33
@scooby: I'm going to assume you've visited Lille and maybe saw the main square with its Flemish architecture and the medieval quarter with its cobbled streets, from which you may be under the illusion both cities are very different.

However, a city is more than the city centre, and they both have much in common. Historically both Metropolitan Manchester and Metropolitan Lille are the nation's industrial hubs and both heavily involved in textile. They are also trade centres, meaning they combine luxurious 19th century architecture with working class neighbourhoods. There's also an abundance of red brick buildings in both cities, Manchester being famous for them.

Politically both cities are left leaning, and whereas Manchester was where the ideas for communism developed in the 19th century, Lille is where the French Anarchist movement took hold in the 19th century. In both cases, against the visible exploitation in factories and mines. Lille has statues and streets named after left-leaning figures and politicians, as has Manchester.

Metropolitan Lille is comprised of several cities who are twinned with Northern towns of England, Lille with Leeds (probably due to its medieval history, rather than its industrial one), Roubaix with Bradford and Tourcoing with Rochdale. The similarities between the North of England and the North East of France are quite entrenched. There are countless streets that could be anywhere in a Northern English town or city. I recently stumbled upon a street that was like walking through Chorlton in Manchester.

Another factor is that both Lille and Manchester are university cities. Lille had four Unis, three have merged. The University of Lille (the merged one) is a partner of the University of Manchester and the Catholic University of Lille is partnered with Manchester Metropolitan University. There are University hospitals in both cities and they do exchanges. In summer months, both cities are quieter as students head home, which also means you get quite an eclectic crowd, non-native, during terms.

Wazemmes, which is the main Arab/ Muslim community, instead much different to Rusholme. It has a great vibe and both now house a mix of students and muslim populations, who get on fine. (It was actually crazy here when Algeria won the AFCOM, it was just like last year when France won the World Cup, car hooting and fireworks set off) . Multiculturism is at the heart and embraced rather than pushed to the outskirts, which to me was something that defined Manchester and defines Lille.







 

 

 
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