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05 Jul 2019 11:15:23
After the Maguire links it's got me thinking about what we need in a CB. Which has brought up a few issues in my opinion.

We need someone who is quick to allow us to play a high line as none of our CB's are rapid.

We need someone who is aerially dominant as we are susceptible to high balls into the box.

We need someone who can play out from the back to allow us to build up play from the back.

Ideally we need someone who prefers to play on the left hand side so Lindelof can play in his best position.

Finding someone who ticks all of these boxes is almost impossible. I can think of 2 or 3 players who tick three of the four. The only defender I can think of who ticks all four is VvD. Who for obvious reasons is unobtainable.

So if you had to compromise on one of those four criteria, which would it be?

Speed, Aerial ability, passing, left hand side player?

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05 Jul 2019 11:42:35
You don't need speed if you are positionaly sound can read the game and above all else can actually defend

This obsession of we must get a defender who is fast is nonsense.

Another thing which infuriates me is people seem to believe you have to play a defender a certain side. bs professional players can play either side.

05 Jul 2019 11:47:32
We could try to coax O’Shea out of retirement.

05 Jul 2019 11:55:17
Good questions Shappy. I'd personally say left sided ability if I had to choose but it's a tough one.

Lindelof has been hampered by the fact he's had to play on the left side but was still clearly our best CB last season so I'd keep him there if we can't get anyone who is good enough on the left side.

We need a defender who is good on the ball, if we want to play higher up the pitch and press a bit more then recovery pace is quite important for a CB but can possibly be offset slightly with good awareness and reading of the game such as Alderweireld does as he isn't the quickest. We have very few players who are great in the air so that would help in both boxes. Mind you in an attacking sense we don't have anyone who can take a corner so might not matter there.

05 Jul 2019 11:56:52
It would have to be passing. We were abysmal in both boxes last season and cannot afford to continue dragging people around while defending corners now that VAR will be in.
Speed will be important to prevent teams from getting behind if we want to press high with our fullbacks. And we need to allow our best CB to play in his preferred position without having to cover for his partner feeling uncomfortable in the LCB position.

05 Jul 2019 12:07:37
Shappy - I know I'm in the minority but I think Maguire would be a fantastic signing.

Plays left side, comfortable on the ball, brilliant in the air, he's a player that's continued to develop and learn. He'd be a commanding, steady presence that would make an instant impact.

Ok the money's obscene but other targets such as Dias, Diop, Milenkovic etc will all command big fees potentially in excess of £60m. Whilst they all have potential, young players invariably take time to settle into the Premier League.

I think we need a strong, steady, composed partner for Lindelof to allow him to concentrate on his own game and continue to improve. In my opinion, even at the eye watering cost and all things considered Maguire represents the best option for us at this moment in time.

05 Jul 2019 12:09:13
Important point in regard to VAR. Smalling will be an even bigger liability if the rules on holding during setpieces are enforced.

05 Jul 2019 12:15:48
I think Maguire will do well at United.

05 Jul 2019 12:29:06
For me to give the defence the balance we need the importance would be passing, arial ability and left sided.
Speed is great but to fit with what we have these are the 3 most important
For me Maguire should he come in fits these and whilst not a Koulibally would significantly improve the defence along with AWB.

05 Jul 2019 12:38:54
Bolger, Speed isn't everything. However, if you play a high line then you need at least one of Your CB's to be quick enough to keep up with the quickest forwards or you'll keep conceding goals to a fairly simple ball over the top. Vidic was a very astute defender, yet he got caught nearly every time to the ball over the top to Fernando Torres. And that was with the very quick Rio Ferdinand alongside him.

Also being a left sided or right sided CB is more important than you give it credit for. Although if your a centre back of high quality you should be able to adapt to either side, you will always play best in your natural side. Defenders at the highest level have very little time to set themselves or react, therefore they need to rely on instinct, how you move your body and which leg you go with is vital in these situations. Therefore, players will always play better on their more natural side. That doesn't mean you have to have a right footed/ left footed CB pairing, just that the side they play on is the side they are most comfortable.

It is fascinating to see the different opinions. Personally I feel aerial ability is the least important. You can easily put a player off or make it awkward for a player who can out jump you without having to win the header. With good full backs limiting the crosses, then it really is only set pieces that become a potential issue.

Yet speed, natural positioning and ability with the ball are needed in multiple situations through out a game.

DLIB, Maguire is a decent defender, but not a great one. Also his regular forays up field that result in him losing the ball could be disastrous with Shaw playing at LB unlikely to be in a position to cover for him.



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