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15 May 2019 13:35:18
"I have to say it will nice for them to get a full season somewhere and play, but then again maybe the best place to be is here, training with the best players in the world, " Solskjaer told United's official app.


Are the likes of City, Liverpool, Barcelona training at Carrington next season?

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15 May 2019 16:05:58
Ole certainly says all the right things. I am sure Woodward will be delighted with him so far.

15 May 2019 16:41:08
Pure PR speak Betty. No way Ole actually believes what he said, but it’s about the brand.

15 May 2019 17:08:23
All he is missing is some pom poms.

15 May 2019 19:36:36
Absolutely guys. I said on here weeks ago that I just hope Ole is not a 'yes man', and that was before the pathetic run in the last few games. Needless to say, that got a lot of criticism because Ole 'is one of us' and 'gets the club's - all of which I actually agree with.

I know there is a lot of PR and bull@#*t involved, but I just get the impression that Ole has been appointed because he can be manipulated into doing and saying whatever Woodward and his fellow suits want him to.

That does not mean that he is a poor manager, just that I think he will be a soft touch for Woodward and co, when what we actually need is someone who will be strong and stand up to them when he needs to .

All seems a bit too cozy for my liking, especially given the state we are currently in.

15 May 2019 19:50:35
Look where standing up to the suits got jose.
I don't care who the manager is, unless the club back their decisions they are doomed to failure.
You see its hard to keep people happy. Those that are moaning about oles quotes and positivity and obvious embellishment are the same fans that moaned about joses bluntness and negativity.
So your dammed if you do and dammed if you dont.

15 May 2019 19:51:32
Isn’t that what mourinho did?

15 May 2019 19:56:23
I’m disappointed with Ole.

It wasn’t too long that he was saying we are years away from getting to the level of Liverpool, which I agree with. Now we have “the best players in the world”.

If we have the best players in the world what does this say about Ole’s coaching skills? He couldn’t come up with a plan for the best players in the world to beat two already relegated sides?

I agree Betty, he’s a perfect manager to toe the company line because he is coming straight from a far lower level and knows that he is lucky to have a shot managing at this level.

Jose, for all his flaws, was at least asking questions about the club’s professionalism and ambition. Ole is simply trotting out the old tired brand positive cliches, despite it being blindingly obvious that this is the worst united side in decades.

15 May 2019 19:58:58
Well said Ken.

15 May 2019 20:47:24
That's not necessarily true Ken. Jose's bluntness and negativity are completely different to him standing up to the suits. The two are not mutually exclusive.
I thought Jose was right to stand up to them, but it was the way he went about it and his whole negative demeanor that was all wrong.
I'm not suggesting that Ole is wrong trying to be positive, nor that he cannot be a success. It just comes across that he says these things for saying sake - because it sounds good.
He just doesn't sound very convincing to me, and as Danny puts it, seems happy to toe the party line.
I actually think he was a shrewd appointment as an interim manager because that loyalty to the club and rapport with the fans was ideal to'steady the ship'.
As many have already said, we need a complete clearing of the decks and start again. We need to move on and start over with fresh ideas, and a new outlook if we are to return to the top of the game. Instead, we seem desperate to cling on to the past - a mistake in my opinion.
But let me make it clear - that is not Ole's fault. I'm not saying he will fail, not that I want him to. Quite the opposite.
I want him to succeed, and the team. But to do that he will need to be strong and stand up to Woodward and co and be allowed to do his own thing. Otherwise he is already doomed to failure.

15 May 2019 21:31:53
Sound-bytes from a bygone era, it wouldn’t surprise me if SAF hadn’t said it at some point. Makes a nice quote for the click bait site so there will be somebody pleased about that.
I can’t see Ole take a stand about anything and certainly not with Woodward, he is just happy to have the job, rabbit in the headlights. Mourinho’s mistake was he should have walked away the day after the last summer window closed. Ole is even less likely to walk away even if the club bought him 6 donkeys.

15 May 2019 22:39:00
Give the bloke a chance. He’s hardly going to come out and say ‘all the youngsters should clear off because we’re crap’.

15 May 2019 23:10:09
I agree with that betty i was generalizing.

15 May 2019 23:20:46
Think you lot need to take quotes and comments with a pinch of salt or you’ll drive yourselves mad. Some of these posts are crazy, might be worth having a little break while the season isn’t on and come back refreshed next season, it will do some of you the world of good.

15 May 2019 23:29:09
Maybe the best way to progress is for Ole to work WITH the management layer above him (I don't think it is just Woody) and make the change together as one club.

Our club is seriously broken, and to be honest, if the top band of players are not available there are a few bands below that that would still improve us by some margin.

He needs to work on the team balance, playing style, fitness, commitment level, team spirit etc etc. Give the guy a chance to do that. It is going to be a long old summer if anyone is expecting him to do much of this before the team at least back in training and maybe even playing some games!

16 May 2019 06:54:25
Thanks for the advice GDS. I've had a decent break already and feel quite refreshed thanks 👍
To be fair, I do agree that we shouldn't take much notice of such quotes - but personally the points I made above are not just based on Danny's OP, but more generally.
Some may agree, some may not but there is no denying that Ole says all the right things - let's just hope there is some substance to it.

16 May 2019 07:06:52
Seems it's time to lick our wounds and vent frustration. Understood the depth of feeling - pogba got a blast of it himself on the last day. Things need to be said but also balanced with support. Its hard now with the rawness of the last number of games and the team seemingly giving up. i'm Hopefull that a few weeks of a break and the signing of a few players in and letting some go will bring some cheer about the place.

16 May 2019 08:21:08
Unfortunately in this day and age of instant gratification, OGS has no chance. “Fans” have decided already and he is a few poor results away from another revolt. Pretty sad times.

16 May 2019 11:00:24
Eric, I don't think it's just Ole, whoever's the boss will have the same problem, as you say sadly it's a sign of the times.
Maybe we should have one day a week on here allocated to only positive posting and I don't mean people being positive that Ole is the wrong choice.

16 May 2019 11:17:30
Keanooh - I don't think this is about being positive or negative though. I've not posted much recently, but have been on the site for years and have always been one of the 'positive' ones.
This is more to do with us getting fed up with the club making bad decision after bad decision, and seemingly never learning from their mistakes and continuing to make rash decisions.
I like Ole I really do - most people do. But what makes him right for the biggest job in football right now? Oh, yes he used to play for us and scored THAT goal.

I genuinely hope he succeeds. Its not about being negative, or having a go at Ole. Its about the club and how it is being run, or at least the decisions it is making.

Time will tell I guess, but let's just hope Ole does the right things rather than just saying them.
Actions speak louder than words, as they say.

16 May 2019 12:03:18
Betty - my comment was not aimed at you, it's a general observation. Since Fergie left the vast majority of comments are critical of either the owners, Ed, the players or the manager of the time. We have had 2 highly experienced managers including the chosen one, an experienced PL manager and now Ole, they all have one thing in common almost from day one they have been criticised on a daily basis.
I appreciate football is a game of opinions but I'm not sure what's gained by the daily negative posting by some people, you can only say the same things so many different ways.
Personally I think Ole was appointed too early but it's done now so in my view he should be given a chance. His experience / cv is questioned, well both LVG and Jose had fantastic records, look how that ended, so there are no guarantees.

16 May 2019 12:57:36
Nothing to disagree with there Keanooh. Some people are just negative full stop, but to be fair to a lot of our fans I think that even some of the more positive ones are getting fed up with the way things are going. Some of it is just frustration, but its difficult to understand just how badly things are going - especially given the amount of money that has been spent on players, and no doubt on getting rid of managers.
Money doesn't guarantee success, but we should be in a much better place than we currently are.
The whole thing is a mess at the moment.







 

 

 
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