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13 May 2019 09:59:39
The last time the club signed a player that I feel really 'worked out' for us was DDG. My criteria are that the player stayed at the club for a reasonable time, improved markedly and made a decent contribution to the team's performances. That is a long time ago and since then we have spent approx £870m on transfer fees (gross) . Could better results have been achieved flipping coins?

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13 May 2019 10:23:49
With the short term nature of recent managerial appointments it will have been hard for any player coming into the club to have a strong balanced team for them to build from.

With managers changing every couple of years and with it playing philosophy and style. DDG has been fortunate enough to be playing in a position where his role will not drastically change. Keep goal, stop shots, pass to a team mate. It makes not difference the playing style or the tactics. So manager changes will affect his performances less than outfield players.

13 May 2019 10:32:39
That's a good point but you would imagine that somewhere over those 7 seasons, someone might have developed into a player other teams would want to buy, if they could. I'm not sure that's happened. Defenders have not been asked to do radically different work at the club to elsewhere.

13 May 2019 11:34:21
We did move from a man marking system to a zonal marking system then to something in-between. So I would say their jobs did significantly change. However, that doesn't mean much when you consider most of our defenders are crap to start with.

I think some players have improved, Shaw is better now than when he signed. Lingard and Rashford have improved as players. McTominay is on an upward trajectory. Lindelof has massively improve since his first season. There is hope for Dalot.

Martial I would say has stagnated, but I wonder how much of that is because he doesn't want to improve the areas he needs to as a winger.

Delay and Zaha didn't improve. Neither has Bailly. But beyond them most of our signings have been older players where there is little room for improvement as they have pretty much peaked.

I think the issue is that we haven't seen as much progression as we would have liked or expected.

That could be because we had too high of expectations. Or maybe the climate at the club has been suitable for them to rapidly improve. Or maybe they haven't got the right attitude, arrived at a "big club" and feel they don't need to work anymore.

I think it was Roy Keane who said, the real work starts when you join a top club, not before.

13 May 2019 13:19:02
I don't think we can say whether Zaha improved or not. He never really played for us to have the chance to improve. Depay won't make it at the highest level though for me as he's very up and down.

13 May 2019 13:32:46
Damon, whether he played or not, he was a player we signed and he didn't improve while with us. I think the OP original point was that we haven't developed any players while they have been with us. In that respect Zaha has to go down as a player for whatever reason didn't develop with us.

13 May 2019 13:46:04
You could count on one hand the amount of successful signings in the last 5/ 6 years. It's been poor decision after another! Pretty much a disaster 🤦‍♂️.

13 May 2019 14:05:00
Damon86 I believe their is as much chance for depay who had as much potential as Salah when he left Chelsea to come back to the prem and do the same as salah.

13 May 2019 22:37:24
I don't believe so cdp. Depay had a good season last year with Lyon but has been pretty average this season! Salah has been at a consistent level for about 4/ 5 years now with 1 outstanding season being last year. I don't think Depay will ever reach the level of Salah. I'd love it if he returned to United and proved me wrong though I'd be over the moon in fact 😂.







 

 

 
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