15 Oct 2024 19:31:09
With tuchel now off the table, I wonder if utd now only have the 1 scenario left, if a new coach was needed.
I know people weren't keen on tuchel but I thought he should have been appointed in the summer. Always thought he'd make a good utd manager.

1.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 00:38:17
Yeah yeah I am a purist but the England manager should be English.

2.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 07:14:17
The England manager should be the best available. TT probably fits the bill there. Pep would be the obvious candidate, but he isn't going to be free until summer 25 at the earliest, assuming he is even interested.

Pep, Klopp and Ancellotti would be the first names on the table. If none of them then Tuchel would be near the top of the next group down.

3.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 08:43:32
KEEFYT7143, and that's why England have not been successful, English manager are just not top of their tree and England has never in my lifetime actually had a good manager now they have the best manager in international football and will win something, unfortunately.

4.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 07:04:46
@Keefyt143, I agree.

5.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 10:52:22
I understand 'smaller' nations getting a foreign coach due to the limited pool of coaching talent.
But for the major international nations, it has to be our best against your best, and I'm not even English.
Can't imagine Spain, Italy or Germany ever going foreign.
They've a good pool of players there. Even Southgate, hardly known as a world-beating coach, got them to two major finals. Are you telling me an actual coach like Howe or Potter couldn't have got them over the line?

6.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 11:38:24
Yep. There has to be someone from England that could do it. Jeepers there are enough teams and managers around!

7.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 14:12:19
When was the last time an English coach won anything significant?
Why employ an English coach to teach English players.
They need a foreign coach because they can't have foreign players in the team so at least somebody can understand what they need to do.
English are not good at coaching or winning unless they are helped to non English players.

8.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 17:43:17
Soccernomics explained why England loses and Germany wins. Basically, it suggests that the English game was dominated by the "working class" to the extent that anyone from outside was neither welcomed nor taken seriously, with the result that all the managers too were cut from the same cloth. The English game has always been devoid of deep thinkers and been tactically limited. How many English players and managers are proficient in another language, and have made it overseas? Originally there was some arrogance about it until Hungary smashed us 6-3 at Wembley in 1953 and then 7-1 the following year in the return fixture. Now we're more fatalistic. We expect not to win.

9.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 18:18:46
I'd never thought of it like that, Shaw. But it makes sense.

10.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 18:50:22
Don’t see the issue if he’s foreign, not like English managers have been successful really is it, many nations appoint foreign. He’s there to help England win something, do the Fa and England fans want to win or just look good.

11.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 19:04:37
Great Post shaw.

12.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 20:26:08
Like I said i am a purist and old.

13.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 20:44:46
The English are very arrogant when it comes to languages. Just say it slowly and loudly in English and they will understand.

Never really been an England team fan. Not sure why, it’s just never appealed to me. Maybe it was the slow boring pedestrian football we tried to play

Still that's not to say I don’t want Tuchel to succeed. Would be good to see the team fulfil potential.

14.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 22:12:38
Gary Neville - ‘ there were some outstanding English candidates’ then goes on to say ‘we’re in a rut as English coaches’.

The blokes a knob. We’ve had an Italian and Swede in charge of our national team. It’s not a new thing.

I couldn’t care less if we have a foreign coach. Tuchel came across respectful and honest in his first press conference. If he’s the man to get us winning major trophies then I’m all for it.

15.) 16 Oct 2024
16 Oct 2024 23:43:52
There isn't an outstanding English candidate, there isn't even a very good one. The names bandied about are Potter and Howe, and the only reason either is named is because they are English, nothing in their resume jumps off the page.

When people mention them for the United job, its because they are English, it isn't because either of them have anything else on their resume that would get them a mention otherwise.

16.) 17 Oct 2024
17 Oct 2024 01:35:48
Oakbark, would you agree that they had a better managerial/ coaching CV than Southgate before he got the England job?
And if so, as I said above, is it really that much of a stretch to think either could get over the line in a major tournament?

17.) 17 Oct 2024
17 Oct 2024 06:30:57
football is a very fickle sport. A year ago guys like Gary O'neil and the guy from palace were hailed as great coaches and now both likely to be replaced.

It is very much a overreaction to the lows and highs. Players and coaches are hailed as great and a turn of fortunes, results the same are then are criticized as not being good enough.

A lot of it depends on right time, right place, right environment etc etc. Pep is considered the best out there but we will never know how great he is as he has never really had to work in difficult environments. All his teams have been right time right place.

After all de matteo won a champions league with Chelsea and an Fa cup double.