17 Aug 2022 07:45:47
Hi all.

I'm currently sitting here on my holiday balcony with a bit of time to finally get this off my chest.
We came away on the 4th for a 2 week break and one of the highlights was the fact we had 2 Utd games to get out and watch. My 11 yr old daughter is a Utd mad fan like her dad and couldn't wait to buy up all the utd gear available here having saved for months. She takes a lot of stick from her mates back home who are predominantly liverpool supporters but she never let's it get to her and gives as good as she gets. A new season, New manager, optimism is again restored for a decent season. However, our heart has again been the source of our optimism and not our head. We are Utd, it has to come right. I've realised it won't, and it's not going to for a long time to come. It can't. Since the day the Glaziers rocked up, the club has detereated into a shambolic, poorly ran mess which was initially papered over by the miracles Alex Ferguson. We are now in a decline that won't stop just by changing managers, signing a few over the hill journey men or meeting a few fans down the pub telling them everything will be fine. It won't. We have lost our club, our soul. We all read the ed's comments about how Utd are run and go about their business. We sometimes refuse to believe it and look for little nuggets to cling to. There isn't any. People in the know have been telling us for a long long time about the shambolic running of the club and now look at what we have left. A team that somehow manages to reach new lows week after week. A stadium that is no where near the standard of a club which pretends to be one of the biggest in the world. Club management that are viewed around the world as being akin to characters from the Simpsons. Owners that unlikely give the club a second thought unless its getting close to pay day. The only people that can make a difference as to how long more this carries on and to how low our once great club can sink are the supporters. We are the only ones who care and are suffering. The glazers don't care. The well paid management don't care. Waving green and gold scarves and holding up glazers out banners won't change it because they are not even looking. Until we finally unite as one and show that enough is finally enough, nothing will change.

1.) 17 Aug 2022
17 Aug 2022 08:07:57
But apparently to poor running of the club is nothing to do with the glazers.

2.) 17 Aug 2022
17 Aug 2022 08:23:40
Keane: I’m not been funny, but everything your coming out with people already know! People are reeling off all this negativity time after time again, and then cap it off with “we all need to unite”

Well what does that actually mean? What do you want fans to do?

I don’t intend this to be an individual dig, apologies if it comes across that way. And I know it’s difficult. But you’ve saved up and bought your daughter all the gear. I’m guessing you don’t go to matches, correct me if I’m wrong. But maybe you’ve been to the ground a couple of times and done the stadium tour and had lunch in the red cafe?

All this is what is keeping the Glazers interested year after year! The merchandise and everything else that everyone buys across the world is filling their pockets more than anything. And even the folk with season tickets are part of the problem, because I can bet that out of the 50,000 odd ticket holders about only 30k of ‘em attend matches. The other 20k are giving ‘em to mates or selling them. You then get this category of casual supporter who comes takes their pic at the trinity and spends a fortune in the Mega Store!

You see what I’m getting at here? As for the green and gold scarf waving, I’m there every week, and I do think the demo’s etc are starting to have an effect. It’s getting more traction week after week, so it’s important we press on with that.

3.) 17 Aug 2022
17 Aug 2022 09:01:53
No offence taken.
I was a season ticket holder up to 2 yrs ago. Financially it got too expensive to continue. I get your point regarding the merchandise but the problem is not my daughters and I love the fact she wears her gear with such pride. I'm not saying to stop the protests. I'm suggesting that it has to be more. Bigger. It needs to be headline story. If this has to be a large scale March on the streets of Manchester, empty seats in the ground etc. My frustration has reached an all time low but I'm on board with my support with whatever needs to be done.

4.) 17 Aug 2022
17 Aug 2022 10:03:45
We’re singing off the same hymn sheet definitely. To be fair, with the cost of living I was close to jacking this year.

Agree on the scale of demo’s etc. At the min it’s maybe a thousand at most, needs to be five figures. If any walk outs planned it’s got to be at least 3/ 4’s of the stadium and it has to be on televised games for maximum impact. Above all else it needs to be PEACEFUL, because as soon as you cross that line it becomes news for all the wrong reasons.

But……. saying it is one thing. Coordinating and making it happen is another. If you’ve never been to Old Trafford before and your taking your kids…. I totally get why you wouldn’t walk out. That’s the problem with the matchday crowd.

5.) 17 Aug 2022
17 Aug 2022 14:40:42
Keane and Fireman, if a large group of Stretford End decided to boycott the Liverpool match, people stopped buying merchandise, fans singing anti-glazer songs throughout games, then that will affect our lovely people who own our club.
You have to attack them where it hurts most, in their pocket and the image. No merchandise and no sponsors will make them think.

6.) 17 Aug 2022
17 Aug 2022 17:18:07
How would it when most people have already paid for their season ticket though?

As Ed has told us the protests just make us look stupid, it’s a bunch of kids leading it in United shirts who have probably been supporting about 5 years. I know we all want the Glazers out but a few people not going on Monday won’t make a blind bit of difference.

7.) 17 Aug 2022
17 Aug 2022 17:27:49
AAA. That’s what I said.

However, the reality at the moment is it ain’t going to happen. I stand in the Stretford End and I’m surrounded by different people every week with Mega Store carrier bags.

8.) 17 Aug 2022
17 Aug 2022 17:29:01
Why do you take eds opinion instead of your own? Protests don’t make us look stupid at all, it makes it look like the fans are sick of the way the club is being run and is one of the tools to make your voice heard.
To me its stupid you sit there wingeing about everything and doing nothing about it.

9.) 17 Aug 2022
17 Aug 2022 18:31:25
Well said FZZ.

At least the various fan groups and the 1958 are trying to do something instead of some fans who offer nothing and would prefer to just whinge and pull their pants down for Joel Glazer.

And for info the demo’s ain’t just kids, there’s plenty of seasoned fans who are sick of where we’re going with these owners.