17 Feb 2022 21:00:44
I've seen something quite interesting tonight regarding Rangnick, Maguire and Ronaldo discussing the captaincy.
Now, I don't see it as being true, but if it were, what's everyone's thoughts on Maguire being stripped of the captains armband and someone else taking over?
I personally don't think he deserves to be United first choice CB let alone captain. I do however think it could completely derail our season.

1.) 17 Feb 2022
17 Feb 2022 21:21:05
Should never have been made captain in the 1st place.

2.) 17 Feb 2022
17 Feb 2022 21:23:16
He's not captain material, he can't even lead himself to good form let alone the team.

He should have been stripped of the captaincy after the Greece incident.

Supposedly he is one of the players leaking things to the press as well, which if true is a disgrace.

3.) 17 Feb 2022
17 Feb 2022 21:55:17
Maguire’s form this season has been catastrophic. He should have been dropped months ago. I have no sympathy for managers that keep selecting him nor their poor judgment. Rangnick you have been warned back Maguire at your peril. I hope the next manager has more sense.

4.) 17 Feb 2022
17 Feb 2022 22:06:26
Read something similar too.

And its amazing how its kind of written from Maguires perspective.

To me, it shows that our captain is one of the leaks in the dressing room. The guy is not mentally up to it and is definitely incapable of playing in a team that wants to play a high line. He needs to go and play at his level and get some confidence back as he must be feeling like crap atm.

{Ed0666's Note - if he’s leaking info to the press he deserves to be stripped of the captaincy, fined heavily and allow the rest of the squad to smack him in the mouth. There’s no evidence to suggest he is but if he is that’s scumbag behavior.

5.) 17 Feb 2022
17 Feb 2022 22:43:20
Maguire was actually booed when his name was announced before the Brighton game. Whatever you think about that a lot of fans have had enough of these players, their self pity, over inflated egos and excuses.

6.) 17 Feb 2022
17 Feb 2022 23:10:09
Despite what we think, no United players should be booed in my opinion. But if MG plays again it might test that resolve.

7.) 17 Feb 2022
17 Feb 2022 23:20:54
If Neville knows who was leaking that information then the club 100% knows. If it was Maguire he should be shown the door.

8.) 18 Feb 2022
17 Feb 2022 22:19:04
Heard Rumours Ed.

Him and Henderson is what I've heard. I expect it to be the english players as they have more contact with journalists than others.

His performances and pre match interviews is enough to strip him. No accountability. No leadership. Can you imagine Maguire watching the Robbo documentary and thinking that he should be uttered in the same breath as him, Keane, Vidic, Eric etc? The club screwed up giving him the armband and it was unfair on Maguire with the price tag. The club would have been better making Mata "club captain" and then shared the armband round the top performers. The club only has themselves to blame over the whole Maguire venture.

{Ed0666's Note - I’d rather not get involved with hearsay and gossip mate whomever is the culprit(s) need to be shipped out because In my eyes that’s unforgivable and if I was a teammate I’d be livid. Bryan Robson was captain par excellence. What that man would have achieved had he not been blighted by injuries. He’s 600 times the player McGuire is and 700 times the captain. You’ll take a massive hit on McGuire and I can see him going back to Leicester or a team out of the top 6 for sure. To be fair nobody though he was gonna be such a duffer when he was signed so I can see the reason he was made captain.

9.) 18 Feb 2022
17 Feb 2022 22:24:30
Here here Ed….

10.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 06:00:22
One of the stupidest decision made by Ole to appoint Maguire as captain.
It didn't make any sort of sense.
He doesn't have any leadership qualities or any aura around him.

11.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 08:20:24
Ole didn't have any standards quality or aura around him so they were a match made in heaven.

12.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 08:21:50
Bruno should be captain, or even McTominay.

13.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 08:32:04
Personaly, I wasnt thrilled by his signing for the reasons being shown now. Not mobile enough for a team that wants to dominate possesion. Not worth 30+ mill than a John Stones.

Club is full of parasites now. Spoiling my lobe for the game now.

14.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 09:06:15
Perfect time to sell maguire be perfect for newcastle. Problem with taking captaincy from him is once you do it its difficult for him to play for a while and with our back up to lindelof and varane being jones and bailly you worry they may be injured when called upon.

I never lived maguire and would never have signed him even more so when you look at the price we paid. In the summer i'd allow him bailly and jones to move on and buy at least 1 if not 2 cbs 1 young but established and the other would be a young up coming player.

15.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 09:06:33
Maguire performed well for England last year and was a real leader. The problem is that he had a better team around him and then this season his form has been poor as has most of the Utd team.

He probably would have benefitted from being given two or three weeks out of the team to get a real rest and take the pressure off him. The likelihood is that whoever replaced him would not be better and probably be worse. After a few weeks he could return refreshed and might even be welcomed back by the team and fans.

I think he is an honest player who does try it's just he needs help to regain form.

16.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 09:27:58
My lobe isn’t doing too good either. Don’t you lot just love to throw vitriol at people. Over the years we had: Evra, Carrick, Giggs, now Maguire. It’s all RUMOUR, innuendo, hearsay, bollocks. Some still slagging off “nasty person” Ole! Jesus. Where is your EVIDENCE?

17.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 09:51:33
Salford, excuses, excuses. He's not good enough.

18.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 09:51:59
Salford7,

Maguire didn't perform well for England last year. England generally play opposition for the majority of their games. Against Italy, he was useless. The other players around him made him look better.

I've never rated him. You can't judge him on paying for England, as most of England's opponent's are generally championship standard. It is nowhere near the same level as the CL.

Against PL sides he looks like pulled pork after 90 mins. Shredded left, right and centre.

19.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 09:56:02
Salford, I don't think Maguire preforming well for England had that much to do with him having "better" players around him.

Personally I think him playing well for England stems from two things. The first being that for the most part international football is about as strong as the Championship. Too many sides made up of a patchwork quilt of players of varying quality means there are very few international sides that would over a season successful finish in the top 6 in the EPL, while most would get relegated.

I mean Wales made it to the Semi-final of the Euro's in 2016 with a squad mostly made up of Championship players.

So the standard of international football far below the standard Maguire is expected to player every week for United.

The second reason for Maguire playing much better for England is due to the way Southgate sets the team up. For Maguire playing in a back three as well as having two more defensive midfielders in Rice and Phillips playing ahead of him means there is nearly always at least 4 players to cover for him, 6 if you include the wingbacks.

So sure if we want to play in the Championship and with a back three with two holding midfielders then maybe Maguire might be able to replicate his England form.

Yet if we want to challenge for the EPL title and in the UCL then Maguire is best suited to sitting in a Greek prison cell and nowhere near the first team.

20.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 10:32:19
Spot on Shappy.
Salford, for England, Maguire is never really challenged in most games.
5 at the back and 2 DM protecting them.

21.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 10:06:07
Mctominay captain means you’re happy he plays every game? Hmm more mediocrity for the next 6-7 years then incoming.

22.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 11:16:05
As soon as Ronaldo came in, I would have given him the armband, I think I and Ken, and a couple others championed this at the time. Maguire just isn't a big enough character to lead and captain this club. Not just the team, the club. Roy Keane has spoken previously about the captaincy and the players he has played under, Pearce, Robson, Bruce, Cantona, Townsend.

''What I always enjoyed with the captains I played under, that would be Stuart Pearce when I was at Forest or Andy Townsend at Ireland or Steve Bruce, Eric Cantona and Brian Robson, they were great captains in a sense that they did not make an issue out of it. They were not on an ego trip. They would take it on board of course when you are at the bigger clubs. You have got to win trophies and you have to be an example when you train, the way you play, your commitment to the team and there are off the field activities particularly when you are at a big club. At United it would have been the media commitments sorting out tickets, it might sound like trivia but sorting out tickets for family, Christmas parties. There are big commitments for the captain at Manchester United I have to say, but as long as you don’t take your eye off the ball in terms of what you are about and that is a player, being a good leader on the training pitch and obviously when you are travelling helping foreign players and their families''

Does Maguire ooze any of that? I don't think so. On top of that, people moan about Solskjaer's standards, well Maguire I don't believe did or does anything to hold higher standards, when you compare to the expectations, standards that Ronaldo has or has been used to, there is no surprise there are issues in the club.

We have to many players who are happy to drift along in their roles and Maguire is one of these with his role as captain.

23.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 12:00:46
Patrick it's not a court of law I don't need evidence to draw my conclusions that ole is a nasty person and I'll slag him off till the day he dies. Ruined this club imo.

24.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 12:02:26
Your right ports I did. I mean he is sitting in his own dressing room as captain and he knows nobody wise in the dressing room believes he is the real captain.
He should have had the foresight to step down but he never.

25.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 13:01:38
Neither Bruno nor McTominay should ever be captain. Bruno too much of a gurn with inconsistent passing ability. McTominay simply not good enough for United.

26.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 13:11:10
Ken you base your conclusions that Ole is a “nasty” person on what? Of course this site is not a court of law but surely you need something more than mere hearsay? Or perhaps not .

27.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 13:28:53
Ole ruined this club? Who appointed him? Who gave him a three year contract? Jesus.

28.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 13:43:05
I think replacing a captain midseason would be disruptive, unless forced ie the player is unavailable long-term. Ok, having him in the XI is arguably disruptive too…
Gossip and hearsay is out of control with Utd atm. Doesn’t seem to be a day that passes without something appearing then it being dragged around for weeks. No wonder concentration levels are poor.

29.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 13:48:23
What a crock of sh*t actually saying that Maguire didn't perform well for England.
He's been dismal for United there is no way anyone can slag his England form off.
It doesn't matter who he's playing with the facts are he's performed well in an England shirt.

30.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 15:20:15
Agree Simo. Personally, I think Ronaldo is more of an issue than anyone at the club. Funny how it's all gone pear shaped since he arrived and uncanny that juventus were happy for him to go. As for captain material within the club, I honestly can't think of anyone that deserves the honour.

31.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 15:30:25
Stripping a player of the captaincy for footballing reasons is very rare, there are usually off field issues involved.
The best thing for United is to drop Maguire and replace him with Jones or Lindelof, more than adequate replacements till the end of the season. Then Bruno or DDG can share the armband for the rest of the season.

32.) 18 Feb 2022
18 Feb 2022 18:20:56
To be fair to Maguire and how he’s performed for England, you got to admire the way he out muscled the taxi driver for his goal against San Marino and pocketed the postman and lost the butcher to score against Albania.