15 Oct 2021 02:40:45
Are there any posters left on here still supportive of Ole and his team? Starting to feel like a lone wolf on here, and quite honestly, getting to the point where I'm going to take a back seat and stop posting for a bit. It is exhausting being the last remaining supportive voice, so shout up if you are still out there!

I am looking forward to this run of games. Lots of challenges, when to rest, who to bring in. Couple of injuries to manage. Rumours are growing about jan window and who will leave. Lots of tests to overcome. Bring it on!


1.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 03:07:54
My allegiance is to the club and that's it. Everything else is secondary. If you're not good enough then off you go. Thanks for your service. That goes for both players and manager. Could care less if you're a club legend. If you're hindering success, then off you go.


2.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 05:30:40
Managers and players are transient employees. I don't support them, i support the club. Ole has to go. NOW.


3.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 07:15:58
Db I would say you are one of the last alright on the site.
I'd argue that anybody that can't see our managers failing knows nothing about football and has limited understanding of the game. In all likelihood never played the game never has taken any coaching badges. (Not that you have to but it helps)
No pundit that has not played with ole has not spoken up.
I genuinely believe you are in a world of your own if you can't see the negatives you are being deliberately churlish. Its not a case of being negative its just a simple case of knowing the standards required or not required in this case.
You are always upbeat and positive which I admire but there is a difference Between that and acknowledging how bad a football manager he is. He is useless at this level.
He has not built a good team playing a cohesive entertaing brand of football in 3 years after spending half a billion pounds.
Get him out so we can get our club back and out of the control of a complete fraud. The bloke is a useless manager and not a nice person either imo.


4.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 08:18:43
I still support Ole but it does get harder with every performance. Sometimes it does look like there is very little tactical plan. The problem is I haven't seen a single good performance all season. We've got some good results at times but even those games we haven't played well.


5.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 08:46:58
To be honest DB I think the jan window is more important to shift players on rather than buy more. If ole is not gone by jan then I'd advise the club to spend nothing but get rid of the likes of Jones Jesse mata martial Fred and Henderson.
Build a pot for the summer and a proper manager.
Vdb should go if ole stays so should cavani imo.


6.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 08:53:58
Its been grim Obi for sure.
You are not alone rosspique is a supporter and Cheshire red is another but he could be Joel glazer in disguise as he roams the corridors of power and has copies of oles blueprint for the future??.


7.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 09:32:11
2 points off the top so on paper he looks like he's doing an acceptable job.

But we all know that comes with huge caveats.

Weve played well in one game this season, that being the first one.

Weve been hugely fortunate that both west ham (Antonio) and everton (Richarlison/ DCL) and maybe newcastle (Wilson) didn't have their starting strikers fit otherwise we could easily be mid table.

Add into the fact that our run of fixtures up until december are incredibly difficult, Its hard to see us being near the top after that and i think Ole will be under huge pressure like LVG and Mourinho eventually succumbed to.


8.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 09:44:47
I don't think Ole is necessarily the right man for the job, although I'd really like to see him with a midfield capable of playing his preferred formation. Yet I don't think making a move for the wrong replacement is any better. I don't think any manager would fair much better with the midfield issues as well as the strength of the opposition. So I wouldn't be against Ole being sacked, if, and only of, the person to replace him can continue the positives he has brought to the club's structure and play a better brand of football, which is not a given given the midfield.


9.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 10:28:19
I've come to the conclusion that Ole is sadly falling short of what we need, and as such it would be best for the club to look for a replacement.

That said I respect that Ole is doing his best and has the club's best interests at heart.

While he remains in the job I will support him and the club even if I feel another manager could do better. Although I no longer feel that the club will achieve our ambitions with him as manager, I see no benefit from booing him, from creating a negative atmosphere around the club.


10.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 10:36:06
Very difficult to see how he keeps his job at the end of the season if he hasn't won anything and the chnaces of that are very slim.

Million dollar question of course who would you get in his place, who wants to come, availability etc etc.


11.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 10:36:40
I still like the manager. Yes, he's go his limitations, but he's still done better at getting the whole squad/ club pulling in the same direction than anyone since SAF, and that's worth a lot considering where we've been in recent years. Give him the season and see if he can make it gel. I think the (surprise) Ronaldo signing changes our whole team dynamic, and that, and Rashford's absence, has affected what were some blossoming on pitch relationships. Yes, we've been pretty rubbish for a few games, but we also have an awesome front line, so at least it's fun to see if we can get a few if them firing at once. Sancho is going to need time to get up to speed and it's good that he's got Ronnie to take the spotlight off him.


12.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 11:16:00
No-one really complained when he was first appointed full-time. And why should they? As caretaker manager, Solskjaer won his first eight matches, 10 of his first 11 and 14 out of 19 in all before being appointed permanently. It seemed logical at the time to assume things could continue at a similar trajectory and he seemed to have the backing of the Utd faithful.
Since then the general clamour seems to be that Utd were mistaken to appoint someone who'd won nothing, allowing the belief that appointing a club legend who 'got the club' was the right thing to do. Chelsea did the same. Arsenal did, for a while. Ole is the only one still standing, running on his positive fumes.
My fear over appointing someone like Potter is that should things go south for a few months, the calls for his head will soon arise, again questioning the appointment of someone yet to win much at all, let alone win at the level a club of Manchester United's size demands.
Conte will run them into the ground within two seasons, although I'd expect an immediate improvement. I figure he'd create much of a vibe that Mourinho did. An initial buzz followed by negativity and that dreaded curse of all managers, 'losing the dressing room'.
I really don't know who there is that can do this job. There were a few unglamorous yet successful managers like Ancelloti and Benitez available recently who could have done something. Ten Hag would require a complete shift in structure and style to even attempt to replicate his Ajax model (and is potentially in line to do this at Barcelona) .
If Ole crumbles under this run of 10 games, I'd expect another caretaker manager or Phelan to continue until things are clearer at season end.


13.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 10:03:39
Hi Dodgy

I’m still supportive of him and the team but I fear he has run out of ideas and the sentimental dream is coming to an end. However, I don’t agree with the ‘he’s completely useless’ point of view.

He had an amazing run when he joined, got the job, and then had an appalling run, this seems to be a recurring theme of his tenure. We have a far better and deeper squad although midfield remains an issue for whoever is in charge.

People have short memories. LVG was awful, I actually stopped watching us it was that bad, Jose brought some success and it looked like he might achieve more but had his usual meltdown. there have been some good times under Ole but he has been found wanting in the big games and has become wedded to the same formation and players, no imagination or tactical tweaks.

We have a good team and a strong squad, it seems we have great team spirit and from the outside looks a pretty happy camp. I would love Ole to prove he can deliver but I don’t think he will. I suspect things will unravel pretty quickly and given the teams we have played so far, our League position is probably false. I think he will finish in the top 4 but wouldn’t bet where.

Finally, and probably contentiously, I think there are plenty who are supportive of Ole, whether they are on here or not. However, there is little point being supportive on here, as you have found out the same posters will tell you very clearly why you are wrong. RELEASE THE HOUNDS!


14.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 10:05:26
Dodgy,

Don’t take a step back mate, it’s good to come on here and read opposite opinions and appreciate how other people see it. You might be the only one on that’s posting on here but you certainly aren’t the only one in real life, Ole still has plenty of support even if it’s wavering because of the performances.

I’d argue like Ken says that if you can’t see the positives over the last 3 years then you are deliberately ignoring them or also know nothing about the game, just like if you can’t see the negatives just the same. I’d say it’s probably the former rather than the latter as to post on here we clearly love the game and know a lot about it and the irony is unreal.

I think the players we have now should be playing a lot better than they are, the performances have not been good this season and Ole is showing that he doesn’t know how to get the best out of the current squad. We have made good signings but too many in attacking positions and it’s left us totally unbalanced and having to leave too many important players out each week but also leaving weaker players in the middle. Time is running out but he needs to find a system that works very quickly and prove us all wrong, if he can do that in the next few days / weeks he will keep his job for the season and we might even challenge, if he doesn’t we will see ourselves mid table, out of Europe and probably with a new manager by Christmas.


15.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 12:54:57
I'm with GDS2 on this one, I will always support the manager whilst he is at the helm of our club. Although it does seem he is completely out of his depth anything can happen, I would give him until Christmas and see where we are then.


16.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 13:15:16
Akh you are still supportive of him? Really?
So you changed your mind since last week?
I know you like a moan about a moan but you posted below last week you would like to see him replaced but you support him today? What did he do in international week to change your mind? Just curious. You may have been on the wine again who knows.
From your post last week
I’d like to see Ole replaced but I’m not losing sleep about it and I hope the teams form pick up and we start winning games. If we do, great. If we don’t then hopefully a change will be made sooner rather than later.


17.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 13:37:08
Did you read my post ken, I think how I feel is pretty clear?


18.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 14:37:24
Yeah you support him but you don't.


19.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 15:00:30
I assume he read the first 5 words after Hi Dodgy haha.


20.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 15:32:52
I support him whilst he is our Manager, when the team plays I want them to win. However, I think it’s time for him to go as the team is stagnant or even going backwards. Clear enough?


21.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 18:13:32
I enjoyed reading the responses, a few positive voices! I read this page every day, but at times it get stuck in a loop.

Of course I know there are alternative views, and I don't want to take those views away, but slowly as the positive voices get quieter it gets quite imbalanced on the site.


22.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 10:03:39
Hi Dodgy

I’m still supportive of him and the team but I fear he has run out of ideas and the sentimental dream is coming to an end. However, I don’t agree with the ‘he’s completely useless’ point of view.

He had an amazing run when he joined, got the job, and then had an appalling run, this seems to be a recurring theme of his tenure. We have a far better and deeper squad although midfield remains an issue for whoever is in charge.

People have short memories. LVG was awful, I actually stopped watching us it was that bad, Jose brought some success and it looked like he might achieve more but had his usual meltdown. there have been some good times under Ole but he has been found wanting in the big games and has become wedded to the same formation and players, no imagination or tactical tweaks.

We have a good team and a strong squad, it seems we have great team spirit and from the outside looks a pretty happy camp. I would love Ole to prove he can deliver but I don’t think he will. I suspect things will unravel pretty quickly and given the teams we have played so far, our League position is probably false. I think he will finish in the top 4 but wouldn’t bet where.

Finally, and probably contentiously, I think there are plenty who are supportive of Ole, whether they are on here or not. However, there is little point being supportive on here, as you have found out the same posters will tell you very clearly why you are wrong. RELEASE THE HOUNDS!


23.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 10:05:26
Dodgy,

Don’t take a step back mate, it’s good to come on here and read opposite opinions and appreciate how other people see it. You might be the only one on that’s posting on here but you certainly aren’t the only one in real life, Ole still has plenty of support even if it’s wavering because of the performances.

I’d argue like Ken says that if you can’t see the positives over the last 3 years then you are deliberately ignoring them or also know nothing about the game, just like if you can’t see the negatives just the same. I’d say it’s probably the former rather than the latter as to post on here we clearly love the game and know a lot about it and the irony is unreal.

I think the players we have now should be playing a lot better than they are, the performances have not been good this season and Ole is showing that he doesn’t know how to get the best out of the current squad. We have made good signings but too many in attacking positions and it’s left us totally unbalanced and having to leave too many important players out each week but also leaving weaker players in the middle. Time is running out but he needs to find a system that works very quickly and prove us all wrong, if he can do that in the next few days / weeks he will keep his job for the season and we might even challenge, if he doesn’t we will see ourselves mid table, out of Europe and probably with a new manager by Christmas.


24.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 18:39:14
Ajh everybody wants the team to win. But I also want the manager gone as I don't think they will win enough to be successful under him.
So while I support the team I don't support the manager and I won't pretend to
If you want him gone how can you support him?


25.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 18:58:28
Ole has taken the club as far as he could.
But now after assembling a quality squad, we need a top quality manager to take us to the next step.


26.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 19:44:23
Ken, do you WANT the manager to do well?

Or do you want him to fail?


27.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 20:43:50
Because he’s our Manager, not everyone sees thing as black and white.

{Ed014's Note - I defo support him ?


28.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 20:53:05
I want him out simple as that. If the team do well he won't be but so far the team have not done well so I don't believe he deserves anymore time. He has failed to date and so have the team so he had been a complete failure to date so he should be fine imo.


29.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 21:30:37
Ken, will you boo him tomorrow? Or cheer him and the team on?


30.) 15 Oct 2021
15 Oct 2021 22:23:16
I always cheer the team on shappy. But i do not support the manager in the very same way as you wanted our previous manager out but still didn't want the team to lose.
If the team do well i'm delighted I don't come critising the team after any win and don't look to pick holes because even poor wins which we've had are still wins.
If the team do well then I won't have the need to call for him to be fired. He has the opportunity to change my opinion he's had it for 3 years. In my opinion he is holding us back and has been for 2 years.
I do not see any substantial contribution the he has made since taking the job. I have a complete bias against him being our manager I don't hide that. Again much the same as you have against our previous manager. So you know exactly what its like to support the team but not the manager.


31.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 01:17:47
I don’t think not supporting the manager - in our minds and on social media- of our club ever actually helps the club. Perhaps if you could attend every game you could with thousands others create an atmosphere for change. I fully support Ole as I think supporting has a better chance that the manager and the teams win games.

Like everyone here, I might be wrong of course. To me it’s more fun supporting the team and a manager and hope they win than any other way. So till he’s there, I support him.


32.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 06:28:13
Who’s a feasible replacement though?

Zidane risky and unproven here, Conte is Jose, and frankly not a huge list of great available managers.


33.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 09:16:51
spenno

I think you should note that I said at the time we should not appoint Ole from being temp to perm. I have said before but in any other job you need relevant experience and have credentials, Ole didn’t so I was very against his appointment. We basically jumped to appoint a temp after dead cat bounce, appalling amateur behaviour.