04 Mar 2021 13:56:50
Hi Shappy the waffler,

Our fbs are better then city.

I don't really rate Rodri and Gundogan is only doing good because of city plays and that's down to their coaching/ tactics.

Bruno is on same level as KdB if not he's better then him as bruno scores more goals.

Rash has more talent then sterling and I don't think Sterling will score that many goals again like he did last year and that was again down to how city plays.

Mahrez is a question mark but that's because we don't have a rw.

Cavani is on same level as Aguero, put cavani in city and he will score same goals as him.

De gea is better then Ederson or on same level.

The only advantage they have right now is mahrez and the way their team plays because of attacking and trying to win rather then Oles taxctuc to defend and save his job.

I hope this helps waffler and if you want any more comparison then ask ed001.

{Ed077's Note - hard disagree on most things. But the most important thing is City play a way that suits their squad. And their squad is built to play that style. Whatever you put it down to but Gundogan has been the best player in the league this season so far.}

1.) 04 Mar 2021
04 Mar 2021 14:17:07
Watch Citys movement off the ball. Every player knows what they're doing. We'll worked goals, back post tap ins. They are simply a well drilled side and everything they do has a purpose.

We are not coached by someone who really knows what they're doing. How many times do we get the ball out wide and then recycle it into the middle where the most traffic Is?

We sign Cavani, we should be whipping balls into the box as often as possible but no. Rashford cut back, pass in side. AWB does the exact same thing.

There is no method to our play. There's no thought to it.

2.) 04 Mar 2021
04 Mar 2021 14:15:01
Yeah but ed that's one season out of 3 or 4 seasons.

If a team creates 30 chances a game and has 70 percent posession most games then the players are bound to score a goal and that's what Gundogsn has been doing and to be fair if Aguero was there he then Gundogan wouldn't score half the goals he has.

To suggest our first 11 is crapper then theirs is pure waffle.

Once we get a proper manager in that knows how to coach players then everyone will see how good our players are.

{Ed077's Note - a team is made up of players Singh. If players dont perform, a team doesn't create chances, like it's the case with Man Utd. Gundogan has been great this season, THIS SEASON. He seems to have finally recovered from his long standing back problem. If Gundogan was playing bad than surely City would struggle to maintain the same dominance in games when he is involved?


I have been saying all season we have the 2nd best squad in the league after City's, taking into consideration the long term injuries at the back for Liverpool. So I do agree our team will improve under a better manager.}

3.) 04 Mar 2021
04 Mar 2021 14:36:15
Hard to disagree with much. The only thing i completely disagree is on Bruno being better than De Bruine. Its not only about goals, De Bruine is the better player. Althought in City's team Bruno maybe would perform even better.

{Ed077's Note - well I disagree on most things in the OP. Different perspectives I think}

4.) 04 Mar 2021
04 Mar 2021 14:43:46
Well that is a rose tinted view of looking at things. Cancelo has arguably been the best full back in the league this season, while Walker will almost certainly go to the Euro's in the summer and AWB probably won't. Maybe Shaw and Telles might be better than the options City have at LB but I'd argue that is more due to Mendy always being injured rather than talent, while Zinchenko is solid at best.
Yet if we are honest Shaw has been great this year, but 8 months ago most United fans wanted him replaced and was glad the club bought Telles to do just that. He has hardly set the world alight while he's been with us and Chilwell and Saka were/ are ahead of him for England.

Whether you rate Rodri and Gundogan is entirely a personal thing. But Gundogan was considered a top player and won the Bundesliga with Dortmund before City signed him. He suffered with injuries a fair bit early in his city career but when injury free like this season is one of the best midfielders in the league. If you really truly believe McFred is a better pairing than Rodri and Gundogan then you need to give your head a wobble.

Bruno and KDB are a much closer match. However, I'd still shade KDB over Bruno currently as KDB has turned up in the big games and has proven that he can make the players around him better. However, in a year or two's time that opinion might change. I think Bruno just hasn't been doing it long enough to over throw KDB just yet.

Mahrez has won the league with Leicester and City, he has proven himself as a top EPL player over a 5 year period. He is twice as good on the RW as any player we could name their on current ability.

Cavani is not and has never been on the same level as Aguero. Aguero has more club career goals scored in traditionally tougher leagues and is two years younger. In no world is a 34 year old Cavani better than a 32 year old Aguero.

Three years ago DDG was a better keeper than Ederson, not now though. DDG has declined over the past three years and judging them on current form and ability Ederson is better.

5.) 04 Mar 2021
04 Mar 2021 14:47:48
Ed077 i am sorry but what do you mean with the "in the OP"?

{Ed077's Note - I mean Cancelo has been the best performing RB in the league thus year. So it's not as cut and dry when The OP says "Our FBs are better than City's". Our LB options are probably better, not RB.

Rodri and Gundogan have been better than Fred and McTominay.

You can't say in definite terms Bruno I better than KdB and I love Bruno.

OK Rash and Sterling are probably at a similar level.


Cavan has to be considered better than Aguero because Sergio hasn't been fit all season so that's more by default.

Ederson has been better than DDG this season and Ederson also suits his teams playing style while DDG doesn't.


Does it explain it more?}

6.) 04 Mar 2021
04 Mar 2021 14:49:01
I Agree with u ed but to say our team is that crap is a bit baffling.

I used to think just like you ed thay playrrs use their own brian and should be able to win matches by playibg good football but I have cone to realise that a lot of players follow instructions given by their coach/ manager and based on our results that clearly means we have a poor manager and coaches at United.

Fix that problem along with getting proper cbs then you will see a different team.

Anyways have a good day lads.

7.) 04 Mar 2021
04 Mar 2021 15:01:44
Whether X player is better than Y is fairly subjective and hard to agree upon. What he can agree on is that Pep is master coach who implements a style and a structure that his players get behind and understand (or they're gone) .

My biggest problem with Ole is that he does not have a plan and is talking more and more rubbish as the season goes on. I believe yesterday he said Palace were a tough team to beat. really?

8.) 04 Mar 2021
04 Mar 2021 15:27:16
I just didn't understand what "OP" means Ed077. I don't think we have a better squad than City but it's a lot closer than some people think.
Although Singhs first comment was a little bit suspicious i do believe that we have still a better keeper a better left back, personally i don't see much difference between Lindelof and stones, Bruno with De Bruine not so much difference, Rashford more talented than Sterling and Kavani a lot better than Aguero . I rated Kun higher in his hole career but after the latest injuries he is not the same player and Kavani is far better for me based on what i have seen so far. Then its the unfair comparison between Gudogan and Fred, ofcourse Gudogan is a far better player but the fair comparison is Gudongan with Pogba, is it so big the difference in terms of quality?
To summarise i don't think we are that far, the big difference is the manager and if the two teams changed managers, a lot of our players would seem better than City's because they would know what exactly they have to do.

{Ed077's Note - DDG might be a better GK than Ederson but our style of play doesn't suit DDG whereas Ederson might be the best GK for the style of play at Man City.

If you say that Cavani is better than Aguero because one gets on the field to show his quality more than the other then Gundogan vs Pogba is a very easy comparison. Gundogan wins there. He has been one of, if not the best player, whereas Pogba has had two relatively long periods out due to injury/fitness concern.

9.) 04 Mar 2021
04 Mar 2021 15:47:03n.
077, I think Herrera is asking the meaning of OP. It means Opening Post.

10.) 05 Mar 2021
04 Mar 2021 17:32:45
Thanks Wazza, yes that was my question because i didn't know what OP means.
Ed077 ofcourse not. I don't say one is better because the other has injuries. I say that Agueros level after the injuries is not the same. I compare what i have seen from Kavani and mainly what i have seen last year from Aguero. Kavani is sharp good hold up play good goalscorer and excellent work rate. I think now that the legs and the pace of Aguero "gone" Kavani is the superior player.