19 Feb 2025 12:45:06
Figures out. 10 mill total comp to eth and his staff and 4 mill to ashworth. its better than i thought and lot less than what ole and his staff got paid.

1.) 19 Feb 2025
19 Feb 2025 14:36:14
£14m. Totally wasted.

And we still don’t know who’s in charge at Utd doing what behind the scenes.

2.) 19 Feb 2025
19 Feb 2025 16:15:06
Wilcox and Barrada, ex-city guys running the show. Brailford also very involved.

Believe it or not eth going was inevitable. But paying to get Ashworth in and then dismissing him is a bit of head scratcher. By all accounts he is a top guy in that type of job given his track record.

3.) 19 Feb 2025
19 Feb 2025 16:57:57
It’s clear they ignored his expertise over the manager situation making his role untenable. Pretty fundamental part of the scope of responsibility for a DoF.

I have zero faith in Wilcox or Berrada to make the righ calls. Or Ratcliffe or the Glazers for that matter.

This is not our club.

4.) 19 Feb 2025
19 Feb 2025 17:52:17
Was ashworth responsible for Ten Hag staying? and the subsequent 200m investment. Considering our current plight I’d imagine we had high hopes for that money.

5.) 20 Feb 2025
20 Feb 2025 08:32:17
Ashworth did not want Amorim. I agree with him. he will get sacked.

6.) 20 Feb 2025
20 Feb 2025 09:42:01
Nothing surprising in the accounts, nothing we didn’t already know if you look at the accounts every quarter and read the news.

7.) 20 Feb 2025
20 Feb 2025 17:43:49
Rumours going round today that utd are seriously considering sacking Ruben. I mean wtf ? listen I'm at an all time low with utd at present but this would be bewildering madness after 2 months in charge. having said that it wouldn't surprise me the way it's being ran. surely this is a sky sports made up rumour.

8.) 20 Feb 2025
20 Feb 2025 19:20:26
Where’s it coming from mate? Ratcliffe has shown he has an itchy trigger finger. Don’t be shocked if we don’t win in the next 3, RA might be gone.

9.) 20 Feb 2025
20 Feb 2025 21:28:15
Surely whether we sacked EtH in July or in November we would have still have had to pay out the same amount of compensation?

So I'm not sure how that's money down the drain ??‍♂️

Ashworth is frustrating, but it is what it is. You can't be sure every new hire will work out. That's one that didn't. Probably a case of trying to do too much too quickly. Hiring a new CEO and a DoF at the same time when they've never worked together will always carry a risk.

Yeah it's a kick in the balls, but would you rather have an extra 4m in the bank but with tension and opposing ideas amongst the key people running the club?

10.) 21 Feb 2025
21 Feb 2025 08:42:09
Tension and disagreement is fine Shappy as it can lead to better decision making. Right now it feels like it’s Ratcliffe/ Berrada’s way or the highway, neither of whom are experts in the footballing side of football.

11.) 21 Feb 2025
21 Feb 2025 10:26:58
As I’ve just posted on the other page, people will believe anything and the press are aware of that so it’s worth it for them to post it. The club will stick with Amorim but it gets the clicks and engagement to say the club are going to sack him.

The ‘rumour’ you’ve posted about Nick came from Richard Keys, he said he thinks the club will be thinking about sacking him and then the headline was “United thinking about sacking Amorim”. People believing the nonsense is how they get clicks, as I’ve just written on the other page this club is doomed to failure because of stuff like this, if it was any other club would this happen? I doubt it.

12.) 21 Feb 2025
21 Feb 2025 13:11:36
Eric, there should always be space for disagreement within any business. You need people to challenge the ideas to make sure they have been properly thought through. If the idea doesn't stand up to rigorous challenge then it's probably not the best thing to do.

Yet ultimately everyone needs to be on the same page and pulling in the same direction. The fact that Ashworth was let go suggests that it wasn't the case. It isn't a decision that will have been taken lightly.

I'm not sure it's fair to suggest Barrada knows as much about running a club as Ratcliffe. He worked within Man City for many years and was being groomed for the job he now holds at United. You can maybe make an argument that it could be a little too soon for him, or he lacks a wealth of experience in the specific role he is in now. But I think it's safe to say that he is an expert in running a football club.

The issue I think is more that normally a CEO would be integral in the process of hiring a DoF, they would be looking to bring someone in who they gel with and has similar thoughts about how a club should be run. Obviously Barrada was not part of the process of hiring Ashworth. Ashworth was someone that Dave Brailsford knew well and thought highly of. Maybe the process to hire Ashworth was a little rushed and not as robust as it should have been.

We also hired Jason Wilcox for the technical director role. There is a lot of cross over between what a technical director and a DoF would normally do at a club and it's rare that a club has BOTH roles.

Wilcox has worked with Barrada before at City and it's probably safe to assume they have shared ideas about how to make a club successful.

Given how they worked together to help make Man City's youth academy one of the best in the country, with players like Palmer, Delap, Foden, Sancho, Rodgers, Lewis, Lavia, Bobb, McAtee and Trafford all proving to to excellent EPL players and have either found success at City or been sold for a huge profit to be successful at other clubs.

Lets be honest Trafford, Lewis, Lavia, Foden, Rodgers, Palmer and Delap would all arguably be starting players for us.

Maybe that is a big part of what Barrada and Wilcox are looking to repeat at United, and maybe Ashworth had a different idea.

We know there was disagreement over EtH and potential replacements for him. As there was disagreement over potential transfer targets. Supposedly Ashworth wanted to almost exclusively focus on managers and players who had played in the EPL. Which to be honest I don't entirely disagree with. I think you reduce the risk of failure when you bring in people who know and are proven in the EPL. Yet you pay a massive premium for that.

Ultimately we don't know what happened, just that it became clear that a parting of the ways was for the best.

We need to give it chance, many of the changes that have been and are being made will take several years to fully come to fruition. We absolutely are not in any position currently to judge how successful they have been. We just need to be patient.

13.) 21 Feb 2025
21 Feb 2025 13:18:16
Amorim has a great opportunity to get the squad united in a Fergie style us against the rest of the world siege mentality scenario I think. I hope he can pull it off/ is given a chance to.

14.) 21 Feb 2025
21 Feb 2025 14:17:04
Gds2.richard keys, say no more. That guy hates utd with a passion, it came up in my phone 'Rubens position under threat' oh well. I'm glad it's just utter nonsense because I'm fed up of sacking managers.

15.) 21 Feb 2025
21 Feb 2025 17:10:39
Just the 1 billion in debt now.

16.) 21 Feb 2025
21 Feb 2025 18:26:30
Shappy, they gave ETH a 1 year extension (adding to his compensation), sacked some of his coaching staff in the summer (compensation), hired new coaches on multi-year contracts and sacked them after a few months (more compensation) . Then sacked the sporting director because he thought hiring Amorim was the wrong decision (even more compensation) . Sticking with ETH was the first mistake that triggered all the rest. It was a flagrant waste of money.

17.) 21 Feb 2025
21 Feb 2025 18:29:38
I think amorim will get sacked because you don't hire managers for formations and tactical bs, you hire mangers for playing a certain style of football and we have none.

We have not moved forward one inch by changing managers but gone backwards. if someone wants to argue with me we have a style now, please feel free to humor me. Idiots running the place imo.

18.) 21 Feb 2025
21 Feb 2025 21:26:39
I think a couple more defeats and he's toast. All the talk of formations doesn't excuse that we are worse now than before he took over. He also looks like a rabbit in the headlights and some of his statements are a bit worrying too.

19.) 21 Feb 2025
21 Feb 2025 21:42:07
Are these the same idiots that 12 months ago many were saying know what they are doing and trust the process ?.

20.) 22 Feb 2025
22 Feb 2025 08:39:04
I think he’ll certainly get to the end of the season but they’ll make a call on it then. Invest another £200m+ on the manager, or be more pragmatic and bring someone in more suited to the bulk of the current squad and look to make 3-4 additions.

That being said, if there are absolutely no green shoots of improvement showing, then he may well be in serious trouble.

21.) 23 Feb 2025
23 Feb 2025 00:33:52
Nothing is remotely improving.