21 Mar 2022 12:13:45
Hoping the rumours of Paul Mitchell leaving Monaco and United being front runners for him are true, would start to resemble some degree of Football intellect behind the scenes if he does come in alongside Rangnick moving upstairs.

1.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 13:23:18
that sounds like a good thing to do ports, so will likely not happen.

the owners don't want footballing people running there cash cow.

2.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 13:41:40
Rangnick won't be doing anything at best he will be given a nothing consultancy job
Possibility for Mitchell to do job working alongside Poch, neither will have Rangnick beside them nor should they.

3.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 13:45:51
????

In so many ways he's perfect. Not just a top class operator, but a guy whose family are from Manchester so he should be able to settle in well. Is supposedly a United fan, which helps with fan relations. Plus his record of finding players and bringing them in is truly elite.

If we are looking to hire someone like EtH who has never had a strong influence on transfers, then we need someone like Mitchell sorting them out and giving the squad some direction and identity in terms on incoming players.

Maybe it's hope, but it kind of looks like several pieces are all falling into place.

4.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 14:05:22
More chance Mitchell works again alongside Poch then TH

TH to much of a gamble in my opinion not only won nothing never managed a big club or big ego’s could turn out another RR which would be disastrous for club

Everyone is a gamble but you try to limit your exposure to being too much of a gamble and TH would be that along with Potter.

5.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 15:16:00
poch is just as much a gamble as TH, he's won nothing and his teams are known for being bottlers.

it all depends on whos running the footballing sides for me, if nothing changes then we will be in the same boat every few years.

6.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 15:22:34
I don't think that's true at all bolger.

7.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 17:24:15
My problem with potch is he feels like a negative addition at the moment. I advocated for him before the downfall at spurs, but i'm not sure someone whos just struggled with one club in a bit of a mess moving to another club in a complete mess would help.

I like ten hag because the feeling he brings in would be a positive one his career is in a positive moment and on the up. This is something none of the managers we've appointed after SAF have had. The best were possibly moyes who had done a good job at everton and van gaal who had done a good job but with a national team.

But let's face it the club needs a clear out a lot of the players don't want to be there and some have been treated terribly to keep them there. Look what letting Aubameygang leave has done for Arsenal, we could easily have allowed Lingard maybe even Pogba go in January and used young players like Mejbri and Elanga we could have even brought Garner back from loan.

The club needs to start realising the players aren't just pieces on a chess board they are people and the things we do to these people are being passed on to everyone else in football. Keeping players when they want to leave is ridiculous and why people shouting i wouldn't allow pogba/ lingard/ mata in the first team just doesn't work, they are stuck there because of the club they want to leave. Imagine this is why ed002 says we aren't a "progressive club" and why a lot of the more highly rated players would pick other transfers over a transfer to united.

8.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 18:18:16
Dbrooks, that's actually a really interesting and good point. Momentum does have a huge baring in football. Sign a player in the ascendancy and they can drag those around them up with them, sign a player on the decline and they can drag those around them down.

It's like that line Varys says to Tyrion in GoT, "Power resides where men believe it resides".

If players think they are getting an up and coming manager who is going places how does that impact their mentality compared to getting a manager who has perceived to have failed and could be stagnating/ declining?

Same thing with fans for that matter.

I'm not saying it's the only factor to consider, but it's actually a really interesting and potentially important one.

9.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 18:33:01
I like either of them ken, but both have won nothing of note that sticks out and makes you think yeah this manager is the way forward,

TH, let's face it, with ajax budget compared to the rest they should be winning the title, but his teams play nice football, attacking and always on the front foot, he has shown in europe beating the likes of madrid and dormund.

But then again you expect them to beat benfica and they dont.

And we can't really look at what TH has done previous as he's not managed anyone of note and done amazing things

Poch and psg should walk that french title and with there squad they should be in the UCL semis or final but they are bottlers which we have seen long b4 poch was there.

We can compare poch to what he done at southampton and spurs and the fact he knows the prem and has taken spurs to the UCl final with a small budget challenged for the title so prob makes him the slight fav.

Each have there own pros and cons.

Whoever it is i think we can all agree time is what's needed.

But at united you don't get time, its either top 4 or your gone.

But the culture at the club needs ti be changed, player power cannot rule the roost, the manager should and needs to have full control.

Players need to be bought that fit the philosophy of the manager what style he wants players should fit that style, not just bought because they will sell shirts and are a big name.

I will get behind who ever the manager is but they will not succeed unless the structure above is right.

Hopefully when ralf gives his report in june the club listen and get rid of the players his suggests and they listen to what he has to say otherwise in 12-18 months if its poch or ten hag, they will be getting the boot aswell.

10.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 18:59:46
Good post mate.
I'm much the same in my view. I don't think psg being flakes is anything to do with poch. They don't play enough big games that is the issue there imo. Bayern suffer like that too to a lesser extent.
Ppch will be on the up after securing his 1st league title. For those that argue they should win the title is the exact same for ajax.
Eth teams don't always play great football. His ajax team do but they have done that there for 60 years he didn't do that.
Is he going to implement an ajax style here? With Fred mctom ronaldo maguire awb etc. No chance.
Poch has more epl experience but also has question marks.
I just can't wait to see someone get rid of the smell of ole and the players, attitudes, standards he left behind him.

11.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 19:48:53
Ken i don't see winning the title at ajax as similar to winning it at psg since 16/ 17 psg have walked the league about 10 points per season over rivals until last year. Potch picked up psg 1 point behind lyon and lille on 36 points they ended the league on 82 points 1 behind lille on 83 points. In the same time ajax won it 3 times once on goal difference to az alkmaar only once did they win it by a large margin which was last year, this year they are being pushed with 7 games left they are on 66 points 2 ahead of psv. Psg are again walking the league this year 12 points clear with 5 games left.

My point being you think ajax walk the dutch league but its not true, in fact its psg who walk the french league year after year (im not blaming potch for last year) .

The other positive is that ten hag has had to build multiple teams after losing players if you want to move on players who are ego over the team you need a manager who can build teams ten hag has shown this potch hasnt.

12.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 21:58:36
Phil Mitchell maybe, giving your recent transfer business ?.

13.) 21 Mar 2022
21 Mar 2022 23:04:29
Paul Mitchell, is he the guy who does Pogba's hair?

14.) 22 Mar 2022
22 Mar 2022 10:28:30
The problem Poch has at PSG is he plays with 8 men every week because 90% of the time Messi, Mbappe and Neymar can rarely be ar*ed chasing back in to there own half.
I watched the PSG match against Madrid and the performances from the three of them once Madrid there first goal was rotten.
All three of them stood there sulking, moping about whilst the other 8 players defended for there life.
I can't stand the three of them.

15.) 22 Mar 2022
22 Mar 2022 11:01:33
in a way sim is that not the managers job to get those 3 players working hard?

you can't have passengers in a team.

16.) 22 Mar 2022
22 Mar 2022 11:10:09
So united should get a manager who can't get sulking players to put the effort in?

Isnt this exactly our current problem!?

I would imagine this is also in part due to the set up upstairs at psg its a good job united have a good structure in place.

17.) 22 Mar 2022
22 Mar 2022 12:48:40
Bolger - the three of them have so much influence in that PSG team that one wrong word from Poch would probably get him fired.

Dbrooks90 - i never said i wanted Poch as the next United manager, i was merely pointing out that Messi, Mbappe and Neymar are a bunch of whinging babies and it must be hard for Posh to bite his tongue at times.

18.) 22 Mar 2022
22 Mar 2022 13:53:01
if he can't get 3 players at psg to chase back and work had how will he get on with the 5 or 6 lazy arses we have?

19.) 22 Mar 2022
22 Mar 2022 15:02:07
Football today players like Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and Mbappe do what they want when they want, it doesn't matter who is in charge.

20.) 22 Mar 2022
22 Mar 2022 19:03:00
Ten hag not won anything or managed a big club? Huh. Ajax is a massive club, and last time I look Eric has won quite a bit lately. It's not a gamble, it's a step in a possible right direction for once.