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23 Aug 2014 19:36:34
juventus have held talks with hernandez as a single tranfer. Not part of any swap plus cash offer for vidal. this is just juventus going after hernandez.
think this is the final sign that utd will not get vidal!
1.) Didn't Evra go as a single deal?
2.) We'll if that's true which I have my doubts about I hope Utd are going to ask silly money for Hernandez. He was worth £25M plus a few years ago and still has his best years to come.
3.) Hoggy, MU will need to raise funds now. Hernandez, Welbeck & Kagawa would all raise around £15m each I'd imagine.
4.) 15mil for me he should be 30 mil .if lukaku is worth 26 mil. Then Chicarito would be more. Same for kagawa. If Luiz is 40 mil then kagawa is worth at least 30mil. Wellbeck to even though I never rated him he is got to be 25 mil because he's english, still young and Carroll cost 35 after 1 season for newcastle
5.) For me utd should not sell to juve for playing hard ball with vidal! Only way I wouldnlet juve have him is in part exchange for vidal
{Ed002's Note - Try not to be ridiculous.}
6.) Juventus have not played hardball with us. We made a bid they rejected it. 1 failed bid is not hardball.
23 Aug 2014 13:16:48
united have representatives in madrid for di maria deal. not sure how I feel about him signing for utd. very good player and a superstar signing. Just have that niggle about him.
utd have enquired about veltman but I hear other clubs are ahead of us?
1.) Hope your Di Maria rumour is true as we need some good news!
He's not what we need but he's world class and you should always buy quality when it becomes available.
any truth in this rumour Eds?
2.) Does he raise the quality of the team? Not for us to care about the money
3.) Di Maria would be the biggest player we have ever signed, Other players have turned out to be better but we have never bought someone at his level before. Dream if we could follow it up with Khedira and Vidal. In reality I just hope we get one of them, will be total farce if over 2 seasons of transfers windows we are left with a midfield of Hererra, fletcher, fellani and cleverly
4.) Veron was world class and look wot happened to him.
5.) If di maria signs its a statement of intent and other players will come if they see a player like di maria in the side
6.) Di Maria signing would lift United to another level. He will excite everyone. But its all pure speculation until now. I hope this is not Thiago part 2.
19 Aug 2014 18:51:37
well rojo is going to be utd player. plans for him to fly in to machester later this evening for a medical with nani going to sporting on loan.
18 Aug 2014 12:57:50
man utd and napoli have agreed terms for a loan deal for felliani. pretty much up to the player. still a worry as he has said he wants to stay and prove himself to the fans.
1.) I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed. Seeing as LVG used him as our plan B on sat and lumped him up top and hit long balls to. I think he needs the move for himself, as he will always be Moyes' man who represents that disastrous season of 13/14.
2.) If he does go and we do not sign a good midfielder we'll be going a step backwards imo
3.) Prove himself by standing in the middle of the pitch, marking no one, rotating on that very spot ball watching and when he does move, he tries his best to get sent off. I said well before he was even linked to our club that he is not a MU player, as did Pardoe, as did Red Man. So many disagreed with us.
4.) 18 Aug 2014 13:38:51
hes still our second best uninjured cm player behind herrera and our best ball winner so yep, step back if he goes and isn't replaced.
5.) Completely agree he is not a footballer he is just a thug every game he play in at least once he will swing an arm or elbow and it always has intent how he isn't pulled up by the FA for retrospective action I do not know
6.) 2nd best uninjured? I STRONGLY disagree .
7.) I think Carrick, Herrera, Fletcher & Cleverley are all ahead of him in the manager's eyes. My eyes too.
8.) 2nd best cm? Carrick is better even injured, Fletcher is miles better, hell, even Cleverly is better.
Sydney - as far as I remember most of us didn't want him, there were just a couple of people who did want him, but they were very vocal about it.
9.) I agree with Sydney - Fail-iani just isn't up for the job.
10.) He proved himself to the fans on Saturday same as every game he played last season. Utter rubbish
11.) Its not fair on him to keep him at OT, he just isn't in any wa, shape or form up to the job. The fact he swings his elbows at any opportunity just adds to my dislike of him. Not a united player by a million miles.
12.) Cleverly is a better player than Fellani at least he will run a bit even if he is like a headless chicken sometimes
13.) I would honestly prefer cleverly in midfield than felliani
29 Jul 2014 14:08:42
Some false reports of barca coming to an agreement with hummels over a transfer. Sources close to the club have come out and said no agreement with either player or club as he is not a target for the club as they cannot meet the fee dortmund would find acceptable. Also added they aproached them for reus months ago and nothing came of this.
Utd have intrest in hummels and seems that they would be in pole position for him if a bid was made and accepted.
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18 Aug 2014 16:32:09
seems LVG has had a small tiff with woodward over transfer targets and the way they are being handled.
Maybe LVG feels that targets are taking a long time to be competed and isn't happy with the way woodward negoitates. just like many utd fans then.
1.) 18 Aug 2014 17:23:58
If we had won on Saturday do you think there would have been any reports of 'small tiffs' between them? Anything you hear now is just made up to jump on the 'united lost a match so let's overreact' bandwagon.
2.) Whilst I'm disappointed with both the result and performance on Saturday - I think it may ultimately help to convince the people upstairs that investment is needed. Whether or not there has been a 'tiff' - the Glazers will not like the fact that it's being reported.
13 Aug 2014 13:54:02
rojo has been fined by club and dropped from first team affairs for foreseeable future and will train on own. Sporting will not be bullied by other clubs or player in attempts to force sell a player important to the club. surposidly taking legal advice in to rojo contract at the club to stop him leaving cheap!? not sure what they mean by that. also surposidly southampton have made offer for him but no where near what sporting want for the player.
1.) Surely there's no going back for Rojo now. He will leave Sporting I reckon.
2.) Sporting are apparently not happy with the structure of the deal, they want all the money upfront so we will just have to wait for Woodward to agree to that. It's only £16 odd million.
3.) Do we really want a player who throws a hissy-fit to get what he wants? What happens if he's a hit with us and RM come knocking?
4.) From what I have read he has a buy out figure in his contract. Yes Liverpool showed with Suarez that this is not always worth the paper it is written on, but surely so long as a club meet this fee which I understand we have then we are not trying to get him on the cheap!
Offer them £25m + Nani + Anderson (who I am sure would would both look good in the portugese league) for Rojo and Carvallho!
Would solve a number of issues with one deal. and yes Ed's I know this is not how deals are done, but I wish it was!
5.) The problem is, Sporting only own 25% of the player and therefore will only get a small percentage of any potential sale. So that probably explains why the player felt he needed to try to force the move through.
6.) Redseven, don't worry, Madrid won't come knockin', he's gubbins.
7.) Sporting only own 25% of the player if reports are true
8.) Brad - If only it worked that way.
9.) I think claiming that Rojo has had a hissy fit is a little bit unreasonable.
He has asked for a transfer and in doing so will waiver his signing on bonus thus meaning that Sporting Lisbon are likely to get a better deal.
For any player who is at at a club like Sporting Lisbon andinterest from one of the big clubs in europe is registered then there is of course a feeling of not wanting to miss out the oppurtunity to move on.
Like us Rojo is human and is likely to at least double his wages by coming to Utd so why would you not want to push this deal through.
I am more annoyed with the players who will not ask for a transfer even though they definitely want the move to take place, as is the case with most transfers today. The players says very little and provides diplomatic answers to questions on such topics so that if the deal goes through they get their bonus and if it does't they are not hammered by the fans from the team that they wanted to leave.
If Rojo joins Utd and is a massive hit and Real Madrid come along and want to pay £30M+ then I don't see the problem. Like Rooney he can be offered a better deal if that is in the interests of the club or they can take the money, make on their investment and purchase a replacement. In reality how many players have actually wanted to leave Man Utd over the past 10 years. Only a few and most of which are because they did not get on with the manager which means in reality they are a potential bad apple in the changing room and need to be moved on.
I actually salute Rojo in being honest and asking for a transfer. He is looking at the bigger picture and not getting caught up in a transfer circus. If the reports of Vidal wanting to join Utd are true and that he has verbally agreed the details of a potential contract then this could possibly all be over if he stated to Juve that he wanted to leave.
10.) Hoggy - Sporting were willing to take a chance on him after a very poor spell in Russia. Instead of repaying their faith in him he's bolting at the first chance. That doesn't seem very professional to me.
I don't so much take issue with him wanting to leave; but refusing to train? That's almost as bad as RVP feigning injury last season because he didn't like David Moyes!
11.) 13 Aug 2014 17:32:39
Well said,Hoggy
12.) Rojo wanted to leave in jan after a spanish club bid for him. he was told he as needed for the rest of the season nd after world club he was free to leave if a sum came in that matched sportings valueation of him. he is frustrated that the club are not accepting bid from him and wants a move to utd. the club own 25% of the player rest owned by representives of the player. that's why sporting are holding back for larger fee but expect player to force move out of sporting in next few days.
13.) Redseven -Agree totally that if a player refuses to train then that is uprofessional and wrong.
However I read this morning hat Sporing had banned Rojo training with the squad and made hm train on his own.
So which is true, we probably won't find out!
Hope that if Utd do sign Rojo then the club owns the player outright. This 3rd party ownership i.e. Tevez, is a joke.
14.) Hoggy - I hadn't read that - but if it is the case then I retract my original comment.
Third party ownership is not allowed in the Premier League and so there's no risk of us partially owning the player. If we sign him, he will be our player.
13 Aug 2014 13:50:33
wow real madrid want 65m for di maria!? psg agreed person details with palyer but wouldn't pay the fee madrid wanted. he's a good player but serioursly utd can't pay that for him. yes he'd do a good job but not a 65m good if that makes sense. to many options avalible for a lot less money. let's hope what ever irwin ment last night isn't utd payin 65m for him.
1.) So they want more for him than they paid for James Rodriguez?
If they value him so highly then why buy James to replace him?
Personally If we were to spend that much on Di Maria then what the hell is the hold up with spending 45m on Vidal?
2.) Agreed Shappy, this tightness with money will only hurt us in the long run. We have to cough up now for Vidal, for Di Maria and seemingly for Rojo or we won't get them. Him coming out and saying that we have a bottomless pit was so stupid.
3.) They want the money to sign Falcao. If we're seriously considering spending that much on Di Maria we should move for Reus instead. He's cost half that.
4.) I'm sure James Rodriguez cost £71m and they want £52m for Di Maria. €65m I think curtr_9 is talking about.
5.) I'm not convinced that Real Madrid will be better with James and without Di Maria. Seems that Ancelotti was forced into lining up with James, the new galactico darling. Wonderful talent, no doubt, but I think a midfield of Di Maria, Kroos, and Modric would have been better. Modric already looks like he has been playing with Kroos for a decade. What a player.
As far as Di Maria goes, hopefully their loss will be our gain.
6.) I am convinced if Di Marea does move it will be for less than £50m. Madrid are playing hard ball as they don't need to sell and the manager does not actually appear to want to sell.
Therefore, marketforces dictate that his price is artificially high and was probably set because of money bags PSG and hoping that Ed Woodwards claim of wanting to break the transer record for Man Utd is true.
I think Van Gaal wants him with an eye on the future system and maybe thinks this is the only year we are likely to get him so willing to buy and then develop the system as the year goes on. He has one eye on the now and one on the future.
7.) Shappy agree with totally . Obviously transfers are not that straightforward but if we want to spend big (if we really can) then I would prefer to spend it on vidal rather than di Maria .
8.) Like every club the want as much money for a player as possible, and I think madrid are no exception. even tho they have signed james for that much they will want a good return on a player that they don't have to sell they can keep and still add something to the squad.
9.) Dimaria will be a transfer day deal. no one will pay that much for him and real need to sell
11 Aug 2014 17:42:11
nice relaxing holiday in italy for last few days and many people seem to be insistant in Cuadrado moving to man utd. not saying it will happen, but seems to be in papers there nearly everyday. tho intresting that nothing in papers about vidal to utd seems to have died down there. media hype over here!?
1.) Here's mine AJH;
1 Man Sh**y
2 Chelsea
3 Man Utd
4 Arsenal
5 Liverpool
6 Everton
18 Hull City
19 Leicester City
20 Hull City
Top scorer: Aguero
Player of the year: Hazard
Young player of the year: Oscar
Top scorers: Man Sh**y
Least conceded: Man Sh**y
2.) Sorry, replied to the wrong post, did you get it down though?
3.) Was also meant to be ;
18 hull city
19 Leicester City
20 burnley
Sorry mate!
25 Jul 2014 11:10:36
Believe it or not but herrera took a paycut to play for us. Player shown great commitment to pay for us by doing this. Maybe goes to show that some players play for the love of a club rather than the money!
1.) Xavi scholes and pirlo equally imperious while Gerrard definitely a level lower. Gerrard, to his defence, had enough drive to carry a whole team and had he had the technical ability of the others he would have been the best. @supasub I've got to question your statement that Gerrard hasn't done anything in Europe, I thought I had selective memory!
Id love de jong at utd. he's a hard ass player that would be good for us. I would love vidal instead but i'm not sure it will happen. better get a midfielder who has experiance in england and who is a hard tackler and de jong fits that and is quiet cheap. can't wait for the excitment of transfer deadline day
I think utd will sign another midfielder before transfer deadline at 11pm on monday
When did we bid for vidal? seriours question
Juventus have not played hardball with us. We made a bid they rejected it. 1 failed bid is not hardball.
When have juventus publicly come out and said to the press that they want 40m for vidal!?!?
Maybe if he plays well and gets treated well utd will sign him
And I stand by that so called bold statement.
great signing and soo much better than what we have in ando and fellaini put together. sit in front of back three.
I agree. blind has great vison for a pass and his work ethic is just amazing. he may not be the biggest player or strongest but neither is messi. i'm not comparing blind to messi as a footballer but blind is a good player and will be a good signing. her can play many positions and that is what utd need.
we need him in midfield and as a left back and a center back. great signing for utd anyone who doubts this doubts utd as a club!
Cant blame LVG for shaw injury as it was shaw that did extra training beyond what LVG asked him to.
Nearly every utd player want a star signing and they sign di maria and everyone starts shouting why did we pay so much!?
League cup was and opportunity for frindge players to show why they deserve to be at the club and they didn't show show up. After the game they prob git told there time at club was over.
Yes we have not had best of starts but have faith. Moyes came to the club and tried to play the same way utd have always played and fail with they players. LVG has come in and changed a lot and will require time. He is going to change our fortunes and it will take time.
To many fans at this club expect instant sucess and to a point that is what should happen given our history. But we are going through change and that's a good thing shows we are developing and wil get back to the ways of old and win cups.
This isn't a dig at you AJH just wanted a put my view across
Marco veratti is ahead of vidal in terms of transfer targets to madrid. not sure on his avalibility but there is intrest from real.
not sure whether vidal will even leave juventus