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13 Mar 2018 19:26:01
Hi Eds,

Is Ghoulam a player Utd are looking at? I think he would be fantastic for us - very athletic, reads the game well and great at providing width and creativity down the left that we've lacked, at times, this season.

Thanks in advance.

TheDoctor46

{Ed004's Note - I don't think so anymore. Not after he dislocated his knee returning from a cruciate injury. One signing, I don't know if it's been discussed or not, would possibly be Bellerin (I've no sources just saw rumours he might be available). I think Jose could make him into a very solid player. Think the potential is there but maybe not worth the money}


1.) 13 Mar 2018 19:53:26
Thanks Ed - interesting shout. I really think with a couple of new full backs we'd see a big improvement in the balance and solidity of the team, both offensively and defensively.

Cheers.

{Ed004's Note - I think everyone on the site agrees with that}


2.) 14 Mar 2018 08:16:12
Not everyone ed004 there is still at least 1 with his head buried in the sand😂😂.


3.) 15 Mar 2018 16:25:30
Smalling - out
Jones - out

New defensive pairing needed!


 

 

 

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30 Jul 2018 19:39:35
Sharppy - all I meant was I think many fans would benefit from some Acceptance and Commitment approaches. That is the notion that complaining, moaning, trying to change things or people (e. g. the board/ Mourinho/ style of play) - that realistically can't changed - means we run the risk of ending up neglecting our values. That leaves people feeling miserable and generally leads to suffering. Or worst case scenario fosters a toxic environment amongst fans. We all know now the impact that can have in the long term!

By trying to reconnect with our values we can live a happier life. Yes, it's normal to complain about the style of football at the moment, more so amongst Utd fans given our history. But ultimately, where does that get us if we keep going on and on about it?

Whereas I bet one of majority of fans' values is simply supporting Utd through thick and thin. If we can get back to focussing on that and the results (regardless of style of play and personel) then I'm betting people would be a lot happier overall.

But that's just my opinion and what I'll be trying to do. As I've said previously it looks like Mourinho is here for the next two seasons. After that I'd guess he will move on anyway. But I intend on focussing on enjoying our results, the new signings and any youth players getting a chance this season.

TheDoctor46

1.) 30 Jul 2018 20:17:02
Doctor
Would you say the same about the players?
Almost support the team, players manager through thick and thin.


2.) 30 Jul 2018 20:58:10
Support man utd whatever that entails. It's our club afterall.


3.) 31 Jul 2018 09:12:27
Doc, I get what your saying but I totally disagree.

That's like saying I'm English so I should you support every action our government takes even if I believe it's wrong.

I support the club, I watch every game, I cheer them on, I buy merchandise and I subscribe to MUTV.

When those players cross the white line and enter the pitch I support them, even the the ones I don't like or I don't think are good enough. I'm not a fan of Jose at United, I don't think he is the right fit for our club. But I hope he gets the result every game.

However, you say about the clubs values and staying true to them.

Well here are a few of the clubs values that are most important to me.

Playing youth and giving them a real chance. The Busby babes and Fergie's fledglings are examples of several youth players coming through together. Now I don't expect that, it's pretty rare after all. But not many clubs world wide can proclaim to have had two great generations of players come through like that. Barcelona of ten years ago, and Ajax of the mid nineties had one generation each.

I think it's important to note we have only really had real success under two managers, both brought though young players and based their sides around that youth.

We have a value of playing exciting cavalier football, yes that means we run the risk of losing games, but it's entertaining. 90 minutes of boring football where we win 1-0 to a set piece goal means I'm happy we got three points, but if I haven't enjoyed the match and I know the next game will be the same and the game after that and the game after that then I will lose enthusiasm for watching my side. As I'm not expecting good football just a result.

It's also a dangerous game to play as a manager. Klopp has far more leeway with the fans as even when Liverpool lose their fans feel like they have been entertained. They still got something out of the match as it wasn't all on the result.

I enjoy a good gloat after an important win, it's not as much fun when we have little to gloat about other than scoring a lucky goal and defending for our lives for 90 minutes. I want games where we play teams off the park, with nearly 500m spent in just over 2 years I think I'm entitled to see us play at least four or five teams off the park a season.

These are key values of the club I love, and if I see them being disregarded and pushed to the side then I feel it important to stand up and say something. As you said if we ignore the clubs true values then we lose what is important about the club.

You ask anyone from around the world to name three things about Manchester United I would expect, Give young players a chance, playing exciting cavalier football and winning trophies.

If we aren't doing those things then we aren't Manchester United anymore, just a name and a brand.


4.) 31 Jul 2018 12:23:48
Where we man United playing attacking football when we won the league souring 68 goals in 2008 with a swash buckling attacking style?


5.) 31 Jul 2018 13:35:16
There was a lot of missed chances that season ken. We might not have scored bucket loads, but there was always a sense that we could. We could be 2-0 down at half time and still feel we were in the game. If were 2-0 down at half time now all we know is we will throw Fellaini on and hope he can drag us back into the game ala Sam Allerdyce long ball style.


 

 

30 Jul 2018 08:34:21
Jose is a very clever man and I believe his comments in press conferences are often planned and calculated. As the Eds have said before, we should take what he says with a pinch of salt. He also seems to have a very different persona behind the cameras.

I actually agree with quite a lot of what Jose says - the tour team is nowhere near the squad he will use for the season ahead. However, Jose will have known this a long time ago and surely would have signed off on the idea of another USA tour knowing it follows the World Cup.

We know from the Eds as well that the Jose/ Utd marriage is one of convenience. Utd knew what they were getting and Jose knew Utd weren't the progressive club he was after. Jose also signed a contract extension despite this, let's not forget.

So my question to the Eds is; are Utd fully committed to honouring Jose's contract?

If it's 'yes' then maybe everyone should just get behind the team and manager for the next few years and enjoy the ride.

TheDoctor46

1.) 30 Jul 2018 09:37:05
How are we supposed to enjoy boring, negative, park the bus, anti-football?

Seriously, I would like to know as i would love to enjoy watching my club play again.


2.) 30 Jul 2018 09:45:11
Shappy,

Did you watch the game on Saturday? Thought we played some really good stuff first half with pretty much a scratch team out, maybe wait until the season starts before we decide we are useless, pre-season results mean nothing and I am surprised so many normally level headed posters on here are getting their knickers in a twist over it.


3.) 30 Jul 2018 09:46:22
Id' love to enjoy the ride, but it's akin to being on the merry-go-round for 2 year olds - boring and not what we queued up for!

I also think you are giving Jose far too much credit. Press Conferences/ Interviews are the opportunity for club representatives to inform the fans of their views etc. If they are doing as you claim then they are abusing the fans (I know they all lie or use them as tools to get a message to the board on occasions) - how about they man-up and knock on the directors door? Annoying the fans has hardly helped Jose to date has it?!

Getting behind somebody like Jose is difficult when he is like this He has lost that spark that made most people give him the benefit of the doubt. He is clever undoubtedly, but I think he is a one trick pony and even the most patient fans is tiring of seeing the same BS with absolutely no sign of it changing. It's like watching a world class magician at Vegas now working at your local working mens club 20 years later - tired, un-enthused and a waste of everyones time.

What is clever about lying and making matters worse? If he is so unhappy why did he sign that contract? Why are the club rewarding this behaviour?

I'd love to know the answers, my guess is that both the club and Jose are incredibly desperate - that feeds into the players who we are now seeing rebel or look depressed with their profession.

I appreciate you want to try and look for positives, but I think you are straw clutching doc. The whole thing needs nipping in the bud now, because God help us in 2 years time if he is still in charge. It's like watching the fall of Rome, rather than the building of it at the moment.


4.) 30 Jul 2018 11:02:43
I think we know why Jose signed the contract, he’s making sure there’s another big pay off in the works when the inevitable melt down happens .


5.) 30 Jul 2018 13:14:44
GDS, during Jose's first season we were told "this isn't Jose's squad" "he needs to bring in his own players" "just be patient".

And I was.

During his second season the same things were said, yet now Jose had bought 7 new players for his first team. 8 once Sanchez joined. And still the football was awful.

Jose could sign a million players, it won't change him or his style of play. If you listened to him at the world cup, praising teams for solid defensive performances. That is Jose that is how he will play no matter which players are available to him.

We might have played some okay football against Liverpool in the first half, yet we still only managed one shot on goal, which came from a set piece.

I appreciate that most of the first team aren't on the tour. But how you handle that is very telling.

Jose complains and says the board haven't bought him enough players. Yet fails to appreciate that nearly all of his targets were also at the world cup and had they been signed they would still not be on the tour.

He sulks and scowls, bitches and moans. If we see it then you can bet the players see it. Do you think Pogba or Lukaku see José's press conferences and think I can't wait to be back?

Also how do you think it affects the kids on your?

What's wrong with Jose coming out and saying something like this "we have many great players who have done so well at the world cup that we have to live without them on the tour. However, it gives me a great opportunity to see some of our outstanding young players, get to know them, see them play close up. That way if they are needed during the season I know what they can do. Plus they get to see what it means to be a first team player at a top club. These games are for practice and fitness, and I appreciate the fan know that, they might get to see the next superstar from our academy making their first strides into the first team. We might not win these games or even play well at times, but the experience especially for the young lads is first class".

Now if Jose had said something along those lines the whole mood amoungst the fans would be completely different. I don't see what he hopes to achieve with his negative agenda, it will only result in him bring the house down on his head.


6.) 30 Jul 2018 13:32:22
Remember Van Gaal seemed to win a lot of pre season games and then lost at the start of the season to the likes of Swansea and WBA 😆😆
Jose will get it right this season. In Jose we trust (I think😆)


7.) 30 Jul 2018 16:07:02
I would suggest jose does less bitching and moaning than you shappy😁.


8.) 30 Jul 2018 16:17:26
Good speech Shappy. Good enough to win you Miss World/ Universe but Jose doesn't want that.


9.) 30 Jul 2018 16:37:09
Out of the gloom a voice spoke. "Smile and be glad. Things could be worse". So I smiled and was glad and behold, things did get worse.


 

 

15 Jul 2018 07:39:24
Rashford to be given the number 10, leaving the number 19 shirt available. Bonucci currently plays in 19? Ok, I'm just thinking out loud. I don't really see Marcus being given the #10 yet, nor do I think we will go for Bonucci. But I would certainly take him at Utd. Born leader and could be fantastic, particularly in the middle of a back three. No credible reports of us being interested though?
On a side note; with Kohler signing with us (yet another sponsor! ) I keep thinking about sponsors helping to pay wages (e. g. with Ronaldo to Juventus, if rumours are to be believed) . I recall a while back there were rumours suggesting Adidas might help Utd pay wages when we were initially after Pogba, I think? It makes sense financially - Addidas or Chevrolet would benefit from having more big names at Utd, furthering their brands. Of course, sponsors do contribute to transfers anyway, albeit indirectly by the very nature of paying large sums to sponsor the club. What I am talking about is Adidas, for example, approaching Utd and saying "we would like X player at Utd due to their world-wide appeal, if you are interested? and we would pay X toward wages". Or if Utd would approach their sponsors in a similar fashion. Does anyone know if this (sponsors directly helping fund deals or wages) actually happens or is just paper talk?
Cheers.

TheDoctor46

1.) 15 Jul 2018 09:43:06
Doctor that is not how things work.


2.) 15 Jul 2018 10:59:18
Ed002 but be able to clarify things on this one. I remember a while back he mentioned something about Adidas potentially trying to play a part in moving Messi (an player sponsored by Adidas) to one of their major clubs, which at the time were Chelsea, Bayern and RM I believe but obviously never came to fruition. I may be wrong here but maybe someone can help because there was something along the lines of that! Hope this helps guys.

{Ed002's Note - No one will be paying the wages of Manchester United players.}


 

 

11 Jul 2018 13:37:35
Hi,

I've just read ..................

TheDoctor46

{Ed002's Note - Wrong page. This is the Manchester United page.}


 

 

09 Jul 2018 10:59:39
Hi all,

What are people's thoughts on using a 3-5-2 formation next season?

We used it on pre-season last year, and for a few games early on if I recall. Seems it could be a good way of accommodating our players and allows us two strikers - Sanchez playing off Lukaku?

The midfield three picks it own, whilst a back three of Lindelof, Bailly and Smalling/ Jones or new CB could be really solid.

If rumours are true, even Willian might be able to fit in the RWB position?

TheDoctor46

1.) 09 Jul 2018 11:08:27
I think we were going to play that if we signed perisic last summer.


2.) 09 Jul 2018 12:22:32
If you wanted to get the pulses racing why not a 3-2-3-2.

Lindelof bailly rojo

Fred herrera

Sanchez pogba martial

Lukaku rashord.


3.) 09 Jul 2018 12:39:53
That is pretty tasty schnauzer. But matic for herrera and a new signing for Rojo and we are good to go. But we would never see martial or Sanchez in those positions as defensively we would be pretty open.


4.) 09 Jul 2018 13:11:04
Park- agreed its unlikely. Looks nice on paper but in reality I think it probably wouldn't work at all.

It's a nice split though you 5 defend you 5 attack its easy this managing lark.


5.) 09 Jul 2018 13:13:39
I like the idea of 352 or 442 diamond, I think that those formations best suit the players we have in our squad.

Schnauzer, that line up I think is really unbalanced. You have four players who want to play as central strikers who will all drift in leaving massive gaps down the flanks. Couple that with no natural defensive midfielder who'll sit (both Fred and Herrera are better as roaming box to box players) .

Then when you look at the space out wide it is obvious that there will be loads of crosses coming into our box. Both Rojo and Lindelof have been suspect at winning high balls. Also I wouldn't say winning the ball in the air is a particular strength of Bailly's. So we would in my opinion concede many headed goals, while lacking enough creation and work rate up front to make up for that fact that we would have 4 players trying to play in the same space.

Pogba has also struggled when pushed into the No.10 position, he is a powerful runner from midfield who has excellent long range passing. Playing him that far forward negates both those qualities by making long range passing near impossible, and making him start his runs further up field limiting the chances of him getting into his stride before he is challenged.


6.) 09 Jul 2018 14:12:48
Shappy, can't disagree the 3-2-3-2 would win nothing but would be fun, was said more in jest.

Being more serious I would love to get back to having 2 up top and and I agree 3-5-2 and 4-4-2diamond would suit what we currently have.


7.) 09 Jul 2018 14:58:51
Ah the old WW. Personally I prefer the WM.


 

 

 

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13 Mar 2018 19:53:26
Thanks Ed - interesting shout. I really think with a couple of new full backs we'd see a big improvement in the balance and solidity of the team, both offensively and defensively.

Cheers.

TheDoctor46

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06 Jul 2018 19:10:39
Based on Ed002's reply to my previous post I would personally find it hard to believe Ronaldo's agent didn't at least sound Utd out about a move, probably a while ago. Transfers clearly take considerable time to organise, even if a player who seemingly appeared unobtainable becomes available. I'd love Ronaldo back but feel his fee and wages could be better spent in other areas.

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06 Jul 2018 18:59:27
Thanks, Ed002, for taking the time to write such a detailed response!

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05 May 2018 09:22:59
*some just don't treat each game like a cup final - sorry for the typo.

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