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14 Jan 2016 13:34:20
With Cavani being marked as available by Blanc, I fear that if we don't move for him and Arsenal do, not only will we have missed out on one of the worlds most prolific goalscorers but one of our direct rivals will have strengthened significantly.
1.) 14 Jan 2016 14:47:41
I'd love Cavani at United, top player for me.
2.) 14 Jan 2016 16:45:09
Would probably end up on the wing for us but would be a great buy for the person coming in after LVG.
07 Jan 2016 08:22:30
So Ighalo has come out and pretty much said he wants to play for UTD. over to you Louis and Woody! Top player imo and a rarity in the fact his desire to play for us outweighs his desire for a payday. What do we have to lose?
1.) 07 Jan 2016 09:00:20
My favorite part of you comment Eric is the last sentence. A few millions to strengthen our team and weaken another.
2.) 07 Jan 2016 10:35:58
Clearly reads my Twitter feed.
3.) 07 Jan 2016 11:13:31
Powerful, pacey attacker who is excellent with his back to goal and turning his man.
We could do much worse.
4.) 07 Jan 2016 11:16:53
He's class, scores all kinds of goals and is probably gettable for about 10-12 mill. No brainer for me to test the waters. Much rather him than lukaku.
5.) 07 Jan 2016 11:45:17
Robbie where on earth did you pull the £10-12million figure from? Why would Watford let him leave for such a measly sum when he is key to thier success?
6.) 07 Jan 2016 15:13:18
I believe 10m was what atletico bid
Robbiewood if you work for squawka then yes I do.
7.) 07 Jan 2016 17:33:12
Ighalo is a player I rate very highly, I'd take him over vardy anyday.
31 Dec 2015 18:16:34
Just read that Ighalo is a Man Utd fan. not a bad January raid in my opinion. Good age always working hard for his goals, quick, strong and can finish. Also the added bonus of being a red always helps players push that little bit harder.
Thoughts?
1.) 31 Dec 2015 18:41:17
Very good player and I really like his attitude. And he knows where the goal is.
2.) 31 Dec 2015 22:43:36
I really like him, he has a touch of torres in his prime about him for me.
I'd take him over vardy.
3.) 01 Jan 2016 00:38:40
Agreed CTR, they'd rob us over the money?
27 Dec 2015 14:44:35
Hi eds hope u are well, just a quick question regarding UTDs interest in a couple of bosman opportunities coming up in Jan. The 3 that caught my eye were 1. Matip 2. Feghouli and 3. Ibrahimovic. I understand that any plans we had could be out the window with the uncertainty of the managers position but is there currently any interest in any of the above? Thankyou.
{Ed002's Note - There is interest in all three players but not from Manchester United.}
1.) 27 Dec 2015 19:46:03
Thats a shame, thanks for the response ed.
10 Dec 2015 12:01:49
The Grass is Greener brigade are out in full force today. So now everyone wants Ancelotti, The Managerial equivalent to the Microwave Meal Mum (Its ready made for you, just warm it up and put it out there) . Couldn't sustain dominance with Chelsea, fair enough he did a "Di Matteo" and won the Champs League with Real but failed in the league. So I wonder if he can't win a League Trophy with Ronaldo and co what makes people think he can continue the rebuild with us and maintain a respectable League position and more importantly qualify for the top competitions. It's this kind of 1 dimensional thinking that makes people think were in such a terrible position and how are we not winning every trophy available with a stroll because we've spent £250m. Take a step back and see the bigger picture, look at our rivals in City and Chelsea and how much they've spent but still fail to dominate with a turnover of mangers that would make mcdonalds look good. If any of you are too young to remember just Google "Ta ra Fergie" Building something great takes time.
1.) 10 Dec 2015 12:07:23
Ancelotti would only be a short term solution and only be their until the summer, I reckon they will approach Pep in the next coming month with regards of taking over in the summer, Guardiola is their no1 target.
2.) 10 Dec 2015 12:14:28
I have to disagree i think whilst NO manager can guarantee success i think we would have a much better chance of some with Ancelotti instead of LvG.
3.) 10 Dec 2015 12:16:49
And you are 😆😆😆😆.
4.) 10 Dec 2015 12:21:46
I hope the manager can turn it around. I felt like this with Moyes' when everyone was on his back, although I don't think our situation is as bad as those days. 4 or 5 wins in a row would do a lot to calm the nerves.
Like you, I am not sure a change of manager now would be beneficial at this juncture.
There needs to be some appreciation of the fact that we are going through a bad period with regards to injuries; plus the team isn't quite there yet in terms of quality; although the PL is so even this year that a number of teams could win it - including us.
5.) 10 Dec 2015 12:23:28
Not sure Ancelotti see's himself as a bench warmer, Shane.
6.) 10 Dec 2015 12:31:33
Shane,
You say that with such assurance but you actually have no idea that that is the case do you?
It does make me laugh how people quote the '£250 million' thing as if that should guarantee success when City have consistently been spending that much for longer than us and Chelsea have too and they aren't doing much better as the OP says. Money doesn't guarantee success just like us being United doesn't guarantee success, but that doesn't mean we could be doing better with a different manager.
7.) 10 Dec 2015 12:46:29
The reason why he didn't win the league with Ronaldo and co is because there was this other little team who has some player known as Messi? Also known as one of the best teams ever? But I guess we only look at one side of the story here.
Ancelotti would be a huge improvement on LVG. He would allow us to attack more, which is exactly what we want. right?
8.) 10 Dec 2015 12:53:49
Sorry Weggy but Atletico won the League that year.
9.) 10 Dec 2015 13:01:21
It's a poisoned chalice.
The reason we bought Martial and Memphis was that no "world class" established striker was available to us. They would prefer to stay where they are. Why would you move from Bayern, Real, Barcelona, City etc etc to us? Who would choose to move to us rather than them? We are a big name, but despite protestations to the contrary, large constituencies within the club, particularly the supporters, are in fickle mode and that is a deterrent.
I think we may be in the position where building a strong youth program is the only way we can get back to the top. There is some sense in this approach. Success is built upon trust and understanding within a system, and of course finding the right players. Once you have a well managed, coherent and stable system, then you can supplement it with established stars who will be more attracted to the club. The system needs to have built in continuity. The best run clubs seem to regard their managers as fine tuners rather than revolutionaries.
In hindsight one can see how moribund the club had become under our American business owners who have no understanding of the game, the enormous debt which siphoned off revenues to financing costs, and the failure to maintain a superior youth program, where young talented players actually get an opportunity to play for the 1st team. Short term thinking and lack of investment and vision all round. In short, hubris.
It may be because he's been forced into it, but LVG is now having to rely on youth. We would be doing better if we had some reliable leadership on the field to help them coalesce, but all our senior players are either underperforming, under talented, or new to the club.
In my opinion the club has no choice but to stick with LVG at least until the end of this year. You can blame him for our problems if you will, and of course he's by no means perfect, but the problems he is facing are the result of long neglect and arrogance and it looks like it will take longer than we had anticipated to fix. It is a complete 100% overhaul. Other than de Gea, 2 1/2 years after the departure of SAF, there isn't a single player left from the last championship winning squad who really cuts the mustard. That must be an unprecedented break in continuity.
10.) 10 Dec 2015 13:08:23
Weggy did Messi play for athletico.
11.) 10 Dec 2015 13:09:19
Completely agree ShawThing and that was brilliantly put might I add. Top Post mate.
12.) 10 Dec 2015 13:41:25
Great post shawthing.
13.) 10 Dec 2015 13:41:58
Eric
I advocate Pep not Ancelotti and expected LVG to see it through until summer and transition then. In the same way the club didn't want the players to know SAF was leaving, will the club want LVG to go into the last year of his contract when players may take the foot off the gas? Therefore I have been hoping the club would be undertaking transition planning and didn't expect to see a change until summer. However I expressed a view lower down that I feel there may have been a change this week, one the club may or may not ignore. I have agreed with Shawthing previously but right now I am sensing that everything isn't settled in the camp and decisions need to be made, positions taken. Oh and I remember the Ta ra Fergie banner but also McGuiness and Sexton. It is a major overhaul that needed doing and I have been supportive of LVG, yet they can't afford to miss top 4 again so I think the club will look at where we are in the plan.
14.) 10 Dec 2015 13:54:16
Telling the players LVG is going in the summer, could be a benefit! They may want to impress whoever is coming in and know there is light at the end of this tunnel of doom.
{Ed002's Note - Summer of 2017 - and they know he is going then.}
15.) 10 Dec 2015 14:15:25
Beast, I have heard you mention you supported Moyes'to the end, then why can't you do that for the current manager?
I understand people's frustrations because I share those frustrations too; but the manager has been here for over a year; and in that time he has basically sold one squad of players and bought another squad.
As it stands - regardless of being out of the CL - we are in a decent position in the league.
There is no reason why we can't put a sequence of wins together over the coming period. If we do that, and bring in some much needed firepower - and maybe a defender - in January, we could really push on this season.
I will never criticise or try to undermine a fellow supporters opinion; but I sometimes don't understand the level of animosity shown towards the manager. That is just me I suppose. I really don't think the guy has done that much wrong to warrant the torrent of abuse he is getting from the media, ex-players and fans.
16.) 10 Dec 2015 14:20:27
The Beast lives in hope.
A bit of Kipling comes in handy during these dark days:
"If you can meet with triumph and disaster
and treat those two imposters just the same"
17.) 10 Dec 2015 14:34:07
I agree Redman I think Pep would be a more natural successor and think he would be the right one to take the Torch and take us to the next level without yet another destroy and rebuild scenario. I think if this summer was the only opportunity to get him (he wasnt willing to wait) then we should move for him.
18.) 10 Dec 2015 14:34:49
Nice quote, Shawthing.
I have a more simpler one: "You don't look at the mantlepiece when your stoking the fire" (Not sure who made that one up mate)
In other words: It isn't pretty, but it will do.
:O)
19.) 10 Dec 2015 15:08:25
BFRO "and you are"
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I forgot that posting more often on here makes your posts more reliable.
20.) 10 Dec 2015 15:41:50
Tuor, I think that's got to be the main criticism of LVG. It doesn't look like he's stoking any fires as far as the players are concerned. It's form over function, philosophy over passion. The dialectical balance between the objective and subjective is out of whack at the moment. Suggested reading "Zen and the Art go Motorcycle Maintenance". Is it about the machine, or the ride, the classical v. the romantic?
21.) 10 Dec 2015 16:05:55
The answer is simple, I love our club and want to support our manager, but I have my limits and LVG is one step too far:
Moyes followed SAF, he had players reluctant to change with big influences. He had a novice in Woody above him. He had a congested fixture list (unlucky against Bayern (Welbeck) and with DDG against Sunderland in Capital Cup) ) . He realised he needed to be more defensive because of our midfield and defensive problems, but we criticised him for being 1/10th as cautious as LVG. Moyes looked out of his depth, but was hung out to dry.
LVG followed Moyes, he had a more experienced and desperate Woody! More money than sense, players with a point to prove, no fixture congestion. LVG talked big, delivered little. The football was poor, he denied the blatant and fabricated on top. He failed again in the transfer window, he is deluded and a thoroughly horrible person to have as a figure head for our club.
If LVG managed any other club I would hope they get battered 5-0 every game, I don't like his demeanour, his condescending attitude and his out of touch thinking. He is not a nice man and is a menace that needs to be put in his place! (retirement home for the blind) .
22.) 10 Dec 2015 16:19:12
He isn't the most inspiring; nor does he feel me with confidence; but I try to remain objective, Shawthing. I try to look at all the facts and form an opinion.
I think injuries to key players have had an effect.
Shaw was a massive blow. The balance on the left side isn't the same without him playing. I really think players like Depay would be more settled and playing better if Shaw never got injured. I think the two had a good connection building.
23.) 10 Dec 2015 16:29:41
Fair enough Beast.
I personally think it is still to early to be so absolute with your critique of the man. I say that because the season is not even at the half way point and there are genuine mitigating factors with regards to why we haven't quite kicked on to the level we probably should be at. Factors such as injuries to key players; not signing a proven, experienced goal scorer; players struggling to settle etc. This was always going to be the case when you change a squad of players at the rate we have. It was always going to be a challenge.
I for one am willing to support the manager. He is here to stay unless he walks, which is the only way he will leave before the end of the season. IMO.
I still think we will navigate our way to a top three finish which is what the club have asked him to achieve. If he doesn't achieve that, then I suppose questions will have to be asked.
24.) 10 Dec 2015 16:33:32
Tuor - How good was Shaw last season? My point is LVG didn't trust or rate him last season so him missing now shouldn't be used to help LVG. Shaw looked brilliant before the injury, but LVG probably wanted rid during the summer.
Depay and Shaw didn't link well at all imo. If anything Shaw was growing more and more frustrated being constantly ignored by the greedy Depay. I lost count how many times he would wave his arms in the air after being ignored.
I have noticed pundits have started saying Depay had a great start but has faded, it is so wrong. He looked decent pre-season but has only played well in 2 games (Bruges and PSV), he has been ok in a couple more, but that is it.
25.) 10 Dec 2015 16:39:05
Tuor - Injuries is a false flag mate, we have had injuries like this for the past 10 years. He has just made it look worse by offloading a lot of squad players and not replacing them.
He has had 18 months, he wasted both pre-seasons. He does what the fans are asking 5 weeks too late. Then ditches something that isn't his ideal the second it hits a road bump. The guy is just totally wrong for our club. We needed a confident manager, but we needed a manager that understood where he stands in the pecking order. This guy thinks he and his idea of football is bigger than Utd. He would rather see us lose every game than admit his ideas aren't perfect.
We rightly got rid of Moyes, but we jumped out of the drying pan and into the fire. Woody and LVG are the biggest problem for the football. Just keep Woody on the commercial side and bring in literally any other manager and we would see a massive improvement almost immediately.
26.) 10 Dec 2015 16:48:36
Have you ever thought that the manager was right about Shaw last season; that his handling of him last season enabled him to get to the level he was at before he got injured?
Depay seems like an arrogant fellow. Not entirely a bad thing to have a bit of arrogance; but you need to back it up. Depay has failed to do that.
It really is too early to judge how he will progress. I thought he had a decent game the other night, although he still has a nasty knack of giving the ball away in poor positions; but he looked lively and was always looking to beat the fullback and put a cross in, which is what you want from your wide players.
The team is a bit low on confidence at the moment. The pressure on them is building. What they need are victories and points. We get a few of them under our belt and we might look quite healthy going into the new year.
Positive vibes man; positive vibes. :)
27.) 10 Dec 2015 17:06:02
In the past when we have had injuries all over the place, we have suffered. I was at Craven cottage when we had Fletch and Carrick as Cb's, and we got torn a new one.
Take Tuesday game for example. If (it is all if's mate) Schneiderlin and Herrera started in the middle of the park, I think we would have won that game comfortably; because we were ultimately let down by our CM, which was non-existent at times. The lack of energy cost us.
The dynamic between Woodward and the manager is speculative at best. But they have worked together for just over a year; and in that time, they have bought and sold a lot of players; so it is hard to judge the long term success of their current strategy at this point in time.
28.) 10 Dec 2015 17:20:50
Hopefully you are right Tuour. I do think it's straw clutching being honest - we both want the same thing thought. I just think we are going the long way around achieving it.
29.) 10 Dec 2015 17:42:34
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30.) 10 Dec 2015 17:44:23
Time will tell mate.
I am hoping for a good win against Bournemouth. We could all do with the lift.
31.) 10 Dec 2015 18:37:26
Bfro I didn't realise you was such a celebrity around these parts?
Should all new posters announce themselves to you before posting?
As a senior popular poster can you arrange my induction so that I don't make any more of these errors.
32.) 10 Dec 2015 20:45:02
No its only Maze in these parts only Maze (he thinks) . But by your first post about Ancelotti you will soon be crossing swords with others aswell.
33.) 11 Dec 2015 08:07:17
Eric don't take any heed of the hate brigade.
34.) 11 Dec 2015 11:29:41
Over here son on me heed 😂😂🎣.
EricTheBlackBelt's rumour replies
25 May 2016 15:00:23
Farha Moshiri?
19 Jan 2016 13:50:45
maybe we have turned attentions to Rodriguez? Ed002 did say he could leave.
09 Dec 2015 13:51:54
Great post Tom.
EricTheBlackBelt's banter replies
30 Mar 2016 17:16:19
I remember when people used to say Ronaldo was rubbish and slate his diamond earrings.
It turns out Memphis has given us a greater return in his 1st season than Ronaldo did too
That Mezut Ozil looks alrite in his THIRD season
Just saying.
02 Feb 2016 06:16:13
We actually need them though, especially a cb rw and striker. Its not about craving for them its the fact that the squad is incomplete.
19 Jan 2016 16:41:22
Didn't Alli only play about 10 mins against us?
13 Jan 2016 12:47:37
Stat released today showing in games where fellaini hasn't played were unbeaten. Take from that what you will but he is more season 1 fellaini than season 2 for me.
11 Jan 2016 18:25:57
With no transfer info and no more banter allowed that leaves us with the Teams Page. can't say i'll pop by for that :/.
{Ed025's Note - its pretty straight forward you know guys, if you want rumours go to the rumour page, and if its banter you want the banter page...its just a case that posts about how bad LVG is are getting very repetitive and clogging up the banter pages, its not that big a deal you know..