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24 Dec 2017 00:10:10
Hey guys, first of all merry christmas to all you red devils.
Recently I mentioned on the tail end of a post lauding the posiive stats around Pogbas influence on yer side. I must say that while he is clearly a talented player he is an absolute liability at times, what is his actual role in the team?
Also did you know that you concede more goals with him in the team than out? And this has usually been against 'weaker' sides.
Clearly he is an important player in an attacking sense, but he is so weak defensively and tactically and plays purely for himself.
Interested as to what Man Utd supporters honest opinion on him is.

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1.) 24 Dec 2017 00:28:59
Concede more maybe but we score/ win more with him. in the side.

There is a pundit (i forget who) that has pojnted out UTD concede more when he's in our squad and went on to say he is useless.

But even danny mills and shearer (ca t stand either of them) have said he is blind and biased and pogba makes our team tick. And for me, him and matc together are pur winning formula.


2.) 24 Dec 2017 00:47:08
We paid 90 million for a midfielder.
Someone to boss games, for that I thought we were getting a leader someone to control games.
He looks more interested in his hair, music and dancing. a clown.


3.) 24 Dec 2017 01:07:00
He's 24. I mean, how many centre mids "dominated" games at that age?


4.) 24 Dec 2017 01:20:32
Leahy as this has been mentioned amd proven before.

Pogba is miles ahead of scholes at 24! And scholes was tbe best MF in the wrld in the end IMO.


5.) 24 Dec 2017 03:49:26
Don't agree with that.


6.) 24 Dec 2017 10:52:27
How many other 24 yr olds cost that money though? why expect the same output from pogba as another 24yr old who cost 20mil?
Your side concede more with him in he team as he lacks defensive awareness and tactical knowledge.
His goals are against-whu, swansea and newcastle
His assists-swansea, stoke, newcastle, (2) arsenal, cska
He is the equivalent of lukaku in midfield, a flat rack bully who really lacks the quality to apply himself consistently and at the highest level. Your side looks so much more balanced with fellaini in midfield.


7.) 24 Dec 2017 10:58:01
If you go back to scholes, Keane giggs Neville etc. Then boys cared about United, they would lose a night sleep over losing, pogba and lingard would go home and play a game of fuseball and have a dance.
I read last week United staff had to ring pogba to get him in to training.


8.) 24 Dec 2017 11:15:36
Leahy,

You read that did you? Must be true then haha. Pogba in on a different level to the rest of the team, he is so good to watch, I honestly can’t understand anyone who watches him play and doesn’t see it but I guess Football is about opinions.


9.) 24 Dec 2017 11:21:05
Could not agree more GDS2!


10.) 24 Dec 2017 12:08:25
He has proven nothing for me, great against the lesser Teams, doesn't have the desire or attitude to grab a game by the scruff of thr neck.
Trotting around like a showpony.


11.) 24 Dec 2017 15:55:37
Saying pogba doesn't need to perform as a record signing because he's only 24 and scholes wasnt great at 24 is ridiculous, Roy Keane signed at 24 for a record fee and immediately displaced the Robson/ Ince partnership and went on to dominate midfield for years, Pogba has to be surrounded with players to do all the defensive work and tracking back for him. A glorified show pony who performs against relegation fodder and is anonymous in big games, even at Juve he was surrounded by people doing the donkey work for him while he pranced around dancing and putting funny colours in his hair, doesn't even show up to a session after losing to bristol, and swans around with the armband. Crazy situation.


12.) 24 Dec 2017 16:12:30
Back whoever you are u agree 100%.


13.) 24 Dec 2017 16:33:41
Im not a United fan Leahy, but I am a football fan who remembers a very different united not 10 years ago, this version of pogba would never have got near a fergie team.


14.) 24 Dec 2017 17:45:55
Sorry but i disagree.


15.) 24 Dec 2017 23:26:13
Any reasons or just because scholes?


 

 

14 Nov 2016 11:55:24
Question for Utd fans, what do you feel is the problem currently at the club? Obviously it was going to take time for Mournho to implement his style on the squad but even at this point it seems somewhat of a struggle, from an outside view it seems that the players aren't simply good enough or have lost confidence from the constant transition after Ferguson? Also the squad seems very unbalanced with a lot of squad fillers just not good enough. Do you think Mourinho will get some traction this year or is the squad not good enough and will need to waittil next year. If its a case of a title challenge next year I would question why sign Ibra as Mou surely knew his squad was not at the strength required and could have used that position for the development of Rashfor/ Martial. Or did he still think top 4 was readily achieveable with thisgroup and do Utd fans still feel it is achieveable? So much rambling i'm sorry.

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1.) 14 Nov 2016 12:27:06
Not being able to put that round thing in that net thing consistently.


2.) 14 Nov 2016 12:38:18
I think it's more than just one issue. The problems now are year on year of different issues, it's going to take Jose time to unravel the mess. We have Fergie who left a poorer squad, he was the master at rebuild but of course was retiring, Moyes came in and in my opinion wrongly overhauled the backroom staff, brought in fellaini who isn't a united player and lost the players respect after time, LVG came in to steady the ship which in fairness he did but ruled by fear, brought in his own players on top and another philosophy, a philosophy that meant the players was robots basically, he faced a bit of a revolt I believe and now onto another manager with another system with more players, so a mixture of systems, philosophies, differing managers players, attitudes and as you say continued transition, no stability which can't be a good thing. Scouting systems, youth set up all overhauled under different regimes, it's a mess which is unfortunately going to take time and I think even Jose was probably shocked at the mess he's found and the poor level of players but I believe we've the right manager and he's going to need the time to turn it around to imprint his philosophy with his players and mentality and wether he makes top 4 or not, we have to see this through not dive head first into another period of transition IMO. Martial and Rashford aren't getting stunted, 'martial been out of form, Rashford is a young boy, Manchester United shouldn't be relying on players of 18 and 20, as excuse like as it sounds I think Jose really doesn't know who he can trust, rely on and what's his best team yet.


3.) 14 Nov 2016 13:37:37
Rewarding/ Accepting failure and not rewarding performances
Wrong types of managers
Inexperienced transfer man, over paying, poor signings
Players not being driven
Anti-Utd tactics for most games
No defined strategy/ goal to work toward
Too many players frozen out or ignored for seemingly bizarre reasons, leads to a negative atmosphere
Other clubs realising we are a scalp worth more than the effort they need to put in to beat us.

Many many more problems. You can just tell the amount of times people mention "Top 4" instead of "Title" how the mindset has changed from "winning" to "improving". We have the players to be doing so much better, I just don't like how we constantly seem to say "it takes time", yet ignore what our rivals go through. Leicester winning the league is the biggest indictment on how far we have fallen and how poor the league is. We are lucky our opponents haven't improved too much during our rapid decline, we make them look better, but Europe tells us they aren't.

It's what happens when business/ profit trumps sport, great shame.


4.) 14 Nov 2016 14:25:17
Agree in the main Beast I just think we've fallen too far from title bids after a succession of failures as you've listed above, I think we need to forget championships til we get our house in order and that will take time wether we've top players or not, it will happen tho I believe and we will be back, as you say others aren't that far ahead, thankfully.


5.) 14 Nov 2016 17:06:28
Keep it simple like the 2nd post down. We are only just over a quarter through the games.


6.) 15 Nov 2016 16:42:54
Ignoring the football, and concentrating too much on revenue generation. Simple.


 

 

 

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24 Dec 2017 23:26:13
Any reasons or just because scholes?

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24 Dec 2017 16:33:41
Im not a United fan Leahy, but I am a football fan who remembers a very different united not 10 years ago, this version of pogba would never have got near a fergie team.

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24 Dec 2017 15:55:37
Saying pogba doesn't need to perform as a record signing because he's only 24 and scholes wasnt great at 24 is ridiculous, Roy Keane signed at 24 for a record fee and immediately displaced the Robson/ Ince partnership and went on to dominate midfield for years, Pogba has to be surrounded with players to do all the defensive work and tracking back for him. A glorified show pony who performs against relegation fodder and is anonymous in big games, even at Juve he was surrounded by people doing the donkey work for him while he pranced around dancing and putting funny colours in his hair, doesn't even show up to a session after losing to bristol, and swans around with the armband. Crazy situation.

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24 Dec 2017 10:52:27
How many other 24 yr olds cost that money though? why expect the same output from pogba as another 24yr old who cost 20mil?
Your side concede more with him in he team as he lacks defensive awareness and tactical knowledge.
His goals are against-whu, swansea and newcastle
His assists-swansea, stoke, newcastle, (2) arsenal, cska
He is the equivalent of lukaku in midfield, a flat rack bully who really lacks the quality to apply himself consistently and at the highest level. Your side looks so much more balanced with fellaini in midfield.

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21 Dec 2017 01:19:16
Dont ignore the fact that you concede more goals when he plays than when he doesnt, and that the games he has missed have been against the stronger teams which casts both views of the stats in a different light. Good player though.

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