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25 Oct 2018 20:53:25
Glazers reported as being concerned about clubs global image.
Jose apparently told to "zip it" in interviews. Not criticising players and dividing fan base.
If true, how long can he keep it up?

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26 Oct 2018 10:16:27
Should a manager be publicly undermining his employer?

26 Oct 2018 11:28:23
The real question is should an employer be publicly undermined by the manager?

26 Oct 2018 14:37:17
There are a number of questions. But after reading the source ed001 recommended on United’s finances, my main question is can United, under any manager, get to level that they can compete with City when the owners are focused on securing sponsorship deals to service their debts?

Just because Jose is trying to deflect attention away from his failings doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a point.

26 Oct 2018 15:25:24
Danny have you seen how much he has spent? What players have kicked on under his guidance?

Jose is looking for excuses, Roman had enough of it and so should our owners. I'm not a fan of the way the club had changed, but ultimately we are not progressing anywhere near as much as we should be under his stewardship - look at what Newcastle, Burnley etc do with a pittance to spend. He has some of the worlds best players and can;t get anything from them, spent hundreds of million and it may as well have been chucked in the bin.

No the buck stops with Jose for me, owners shouldn't be throwing more good money after bad - but they should be decisive, no middle ground here. Either give him MORE money to waste or cut him loose.

26 Oct 2018 16:15:40
I think you need to separate your dislike for Jose from the broader issues at the club. Personally, I would not have extended Jose’s contract, and made sure that this year was spent identifying and securing a top quality replacement.

However, the analysis of our finances highlights how the increased revenue generated over the last few season has, primarily, been used to service the owner’s debts. The club’s focus has been on securing off field deals, and this obviously has a knock on effect for our on field performances. The point is that club is a long way behind City and other top European sides. Regardless of who is at the helm, it is very difficult to close the gap unless the owners change their priorities.

26 Oct 2018 17:30:29
The owners seem to give the managers free rein, that is one thing I like about them.

Too many people use the inner machinations of the club to explain away our dire performances on the pitch. Jose has players to train, world class players, he is not being told what to do on the pitch or off it (aside from shut up it seems) . So not sure how that is an excuse for what we see every game.

If its not spending money then that is a BS excuse. He has had more than almost any manager ever. Name me a manager that doesn't want more to spend?

I don't like the way the club play nor how Jose carries himself most of the time. He thinks he is bigger than the club and has little regard for his players (most of them) or the fans. We are a laughing stock, we are boring to watch and the owners whilst not ideal certainly could be a lot worse and have frankly backed him enough.

Most clubs carry debt, he has had plenty of funds and wastes it on players he doesn't play.

I said at the time it was a travesty giving this man a new contract as well. There are more heads that need to roll, but Jose's is the first if we want to get back to where we should be any time soon.

27 Oct 2018 14:17:11
And in two years when were struggling with the manager complaining about lack of investment will you wake up or burn more vitriol calling for another sacking. Then repeat two years later. Then two years later.

28 Oct 2018 08:53:19
Really don’t see how anyone could say Jose hasn’t had enough time or money to not be in the position we find ourself.

The fact he could have had more were United not servicing such debt levels is completely irrelevant to that fact. If we’re suggesting spending power correlates to league position United should only be second to City by a few points.

The fact we’re not by so much can only have Jose to blame.

28 Oct 2018 10:00:23
Interesting saying Jose has had enough time. In the depth of winter 1989 some people said the same about SAF.

It seems the starting point has not been considered. Jose came in after SAF had let the team decline, only SAF’s genius at motivation gave us success at the end. SAF was saying no value in the market whilst City bought Silva, Kompany, Aguero and co, so when Pep arrived he had a far stronger base than when Jose took over. City had prepared for years whilst we had failed to invest and appointed two wrong managers. Chelsea the same, SAF found no value when Hazard came on the market. So recent spending needs to be put in perspective, which it hasn’t been. Look at spending since 2008 in the clubs, I am sure someone will and decide from that. We replaced Ronaldo with Wigan’s winger and watched the golden generation retire yet did nothing until the panic buying of the last five years. I also wonder whether the players being bought are a Mourinho’s first choice, or the cheaper options in the same positionsdue to the servicing of the debt?

30 Oct 2018 10:31:26
DDG is a fantastic keeper and I'd love it if he stays, but if he goes he will be replaced bu another good/ great keeper who will make saves.

Some of the talk seems to imply that without him we would have no one in goal and every shot would score.

31 Oct 2018 08:16:44
Bang on steve players come and go.
Nobody wants the best ones to leave but lots of times better ones come in.
The sky will not fall in if he leaves.







 

 

 
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