28 Feb 2019 14:16:45
New contracts for Smalling, Jones, Young and are now considering giving one to Valencia, WOW! This is exactly why we have NO chance of actually challenging properly for the league and CL, mediocrity!
{Ed025's Note - it could be done so that they have a sell on value scholes, too many players are letting their contracts run down and leave for nothing mate..
28 Feb 2019 15:27:41
Does Valencia have a sell on value, he's nearly 34.
28 Feb 2019 14:49:45
Would be lucky to get a bag of peanuts for them 4 Ed025 lol, in fact we'd have to pay someone to get Jones off us.
{Ed025's Note - someone will want them scholesy im sure, we could be talking in the region of 87p here mate...for the lot.. :)
28 Feb 2019 15:19:13
Ed I'd leave them leave for nothing, some just aren't at the level.
What other team in the top 4 would buy them. Now I might keep smalling as a squad player,
There's a time when players have to move on.
{Ed025's Note - you will be surprised by what you will get for them leahy, smalling will get you about £15m mate imo..
28 Feb 2019 15:53:13
This is one of my main problems with Ole getting the job. Before I start I would give it to him, he deserves it, but, is he the man to make the tough calls regarding players futures? Is Ole going to be so happy to get the job that he won't rustle any feathers regarding new signings?
To challenge for the league we need to add a bit more quality throughout. With all these fringe players signing new deals, the fans unequivocally behind OGS and this job being his dream. I can see Woodward and the Glazers rubbing their hands together and the thought of saving money over the next few years.
28 Feb 2019 15:57:38
Don't worry guys, Everton will sign them, they always do. Lol.
28 Feb 2019 16:05:47
29 points out of 33 what's the problem . Young and smalling are playing well .
Proof is in the pudding . Opinions, well everyone has got one.
28 Feb 2019 16:22:14
Id keep the first 3 for the home grown quota and slowly phase them out. Valencia though there is no point at all in renewing.
28 Feb 2019 16:34:32
Jred, I don't mind Young and Smalling in the squad. If we're to challenge for the league next year, we'll need upgrades on Valencia, Jones, Mata, Sanchez and Fred. Rojo and Darmain will almost certainly leave.
Would you be happy starting next season with roundabout the same squad?
28 Feb 2019 16:36:02
It makes sense not to let them go for nothing and short contracts by comparison leave options should the new manager not get the desired targets. I get that point but where we have either squad cover or a youngun to step in a particular position then getting the wages away would be surely a priority. THEN AGAIN, WOODWARD WILL COVER ALL FINANCIAL PERMUTATIONS because ITS WHAT HE KNOWS: THE ONLY THING HE DOES.
28 Feb 2019 17:30:47
2 top 4s in 5 seasons never mind last 11 games.
These players have been average and help produce average results.
Smalling is currently our 2nd best cb no issue with him in our squad.
Young likewise but neither are good enough to start every week and for us to compete to win.
Valencia is useless nowadays so is rojo so is Darmian jones is a step above those but only a small step.
Sanchez has got to be paid off i reckon he just has fallen short of even the lowest of expectations sadly.
Lukaku can adapt and play a major part but his days of being 1st choice look numbered so if he can live with that then great.
Fred. I am disappointed but maybe he needs a bit more time but i'd say the future looks glum for him at United.
Ole has done great in greying these players to play above themselves and get results. Its a trait fergie had so that does bode well for the future.
28 Feb 2019 17:42:10
Ken 3 crap managers ole has 29 points from the last 33 what's the problem?
We prob buy 3 ish in the summer like most teams .
28 Feb 2019 18:43:14
Jred how far off winning the league or CL with these players are we, as you say the proof is in the pudding.
28 Feb 2019 18:49:23
Who said there was a problem?
28 Feb 2019 18:56:23
The situation is simple, we don't yet have a full time manager and as such we have no idea who he will want to keep and who he will want to move on. As such allowing half the squad to leave on a free transfer this summer will mileage the squad very short and would mean the club would have to buy 3-4 first team players plus another 4-5 squad players. That's ridiculous. And we suffered that problem before under LvG where he sold off several squad player only to bring more in of a similar standard.
The club is doing the sensible thing of making sure the club isn't left short or will definitely require a larger than necessary investment in the summer while keeping options open for who our next manager is, whoever that ends up being.
28 Feb 2019 19:36:02
The squad is in much better shape now than it was 18 months ago.
Rb. It makes sense to keep young. If dalot comes good next season and takes a few strides forward young is good back up.
Lindelof is making huge strides and has become deservedly 1st choice cb.
Smalling to me is no2 and despite being very limited does a better than steady job. I think we will see a new cb arrive in the summer. To join that pair with jones and tuanzebe filling the 5.
Its possible that we could get a top cb with the money raised from bailly rojo darmian plus about 40m?
Midfield requires work imo
We need a player to replace matic who will become excellent back up for a season
I also belive we need a player to rotate herrera and pogba. So that player will need to be capable of playing 40 games a season. With fred and mctom providing back up. Those 2 players will require significant investment.
Attack wise assuming jessie rash and martial are 1st choice. Lukaku for me can play a big role. Mata i'd loathe to see leave on a free but perhaps its for the best. Sanchez will need to be paid off i'd imagine. So we will need a wide attacker right sided to give cover for jessie predominantly with chong gomez and greenwood giving extended cover.
So 4 players would be what i would say would give us a squad capable of competing
Ddg romero grant. (Keep henderson on loan)
Dalot shaw young,
New cb lidelof smalling tuanzabe jones
Matic plus new holding midfielder
Pogba herrera new cm, fred mctom garner.
Jessie martial rash lukaku new wide player. Angel chong greenwood.
If that was our squad i'd say we are only 1 full back short of a squad that can really compete to win on all fronts.
Koulibaly neves saul and costa would be fine with me. There are lots of others costa is a bit of a wild card but a couple of good seasons maybe before angel or chong are ready. Raibot with no fee is a decent option.
Everyone has their own opinions. But that's mine.
28 Feb 2019 20:35:03
Largely agree ken. Not sold on costa. i'd offer cash, Darmian an bailly for koulibaly.
I get renewing deals to stop us from weakening the squad. I just don't see the point in extending Valencia.
01 Mar 2019 01:21:45
In relation to Valencia I think what was being reported was that it was decision time for Utd. They have the option to extend by 12 months. That option expires today.
I think we all know what the most likely decision will be. No thanks.
01 Mar 2019 05:03:43
I agree with Ken.
Douglas Costa is a natural right winger with electric pace.
Suits our counter attacking play.
01 Mar 2019 05:49:41
29 points out of 33 we are competing already .
We will buy players just like we did last season in fred and sanchez .
The boys are playing well and people who have slagged them of as not good enough?
Jose was a big mistake but we have a strong squad with good players.
01 Mar 2019 07:27:23
I wouldn't say strong squad.
De Gea, Lindelof, Shaw, Matic, Herrera, Pogba, Martial, Rashford and Lingard walk into our strongest team but we need a right back and centre back.
Romero, Smalling, Jones, Young, McTominay, Mata and Lukaku offer depth.
Jury is still out on Fred and Pereira.
Darmian, Valencia, Rojo, Sanchez offer little to nothing. Those four should be first out and replaced.
01 Mar 2019 07:53:04
Jred you said lindelof dalot lukaku pogba bailly should not be at the club so get off your high horse.
01 Mar 2019 07:56:52
Pretty accurate Mort. I think we have shown we have a strong 11 and our league form sone Ole arrived is League winning form (see my stat on the other posts page) . The questi N is whether this squad can sustain that over a full season, we are now seeing injuries so it will be interesting to see how we cope.
I think we need to promote youth and sign probably 3 top to players whilst clearing out those that don’t feature. We may agree or disagree on the names in or out but reading the posts we all seem to be on pretty much the same page.
01 Mar 2019 10:20:53
Agree AJH.
3 top notch signing could make us contenders.
Next year, players would adapt to this playing style more readily.
01 Mar 2019 11:27:13
I missed Dalot he should be in with Romero and co.
I agree Tone. Those I said out. Involve Tuanzebe, Garner, Chong, Gomes and Greenwood more especially in the cups, dead rubber champions league games etc. Sign 3, Koulibaly, Saul and Lozano.
02 Mar 2019 08:08:13
Ken
Stop making stuf up .
I have stuck up for pigba over and over . Lindelif as i said will would prob see the best this season .
Lukaku? I wanted him rate him especially compared to your man morrata . Lukaku shoukd suit ole style and will get you goals .
Realky don't kniw what your talking about .
Bailly looks very rash.
02 Mar 2019 09:02:54
Jred quote. ' i don't think jose has made 1 right signing for the club' your words.
02 Mar 2019 09:07:45
can't think of a single transfer Jose got right.
jred
That was your exact quote denis.
02 Mar 2019 12:06:13
Ken
Its one quote, that to be honest i can't really remember.
But i have been very vocal about the likes of lukaku pogba and co the regulars will know that. Lots and lots of post .