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01 Feb 2019 19:29:19
For the regulars, what would be your plan for the club next season? Which manager, transfers and tactics?

1) Solskjaer in a permanent role, he's proved himself in my opinion. He is clearly a motivator, which actually is what a manager needs. He's also demonstrated brilliant tactical foresight to mastermind some great wins.

2) Players in - Skriniar, R. Pereira, Neves, Werner

3) Players out - Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Valencia, Pereira, Mata

4 ) 4-3-3 as a general rule with Sanchez, Martial and Rashford up top, Pogba and Herrera with Neves or Matic holding. Lindelof deaerves to keep his place as does Shaw.

Interested to hear your thoughts.

{Ed025's Note - for me fresh it has to be poch im afraid, yes OGS has done very well and is a very likable guy who gets united, on the other hand he has not done much in management at other clubs and had a very easy start at united and those results could be put down to new manager syndrome, even though you beat spurs i think we all know united fluked that one and were very lucky against burnley, im not having a go at OGS mate but looking on the practical side..

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01 Feb 2019 20:19:46
I fail to see what Poch has achieved though.

{Ed025's Note - hes stabilized spurs by turning them into a challenging team fresh, they are a match for anyone in the league imo and he has done that on a very meagre budget and by introducing youth and turning them into a very attractive team, imagine what he could do with united,s resources and current players mate...of course this is just my opinion..

01 Feb 2019 20:27:46
I thought Ole was an odd choice but his impact has been great. We have a challenging month, for me it’s Ole’s to lose right now and if he handles the big games well, and we get results, then it’s a brave man that looks past him.

There is no reason for us to make a quick decision, let’s see where we are in April.

I don’t watch enough football to give you names, we need a commanding CB and more midfield options and they need to be top class, promote the great youngsters and we have a solid squad.

As for tactics and formation, I couldn’t care less as long as we embrace an attacking philosophy.

And I’d keep Mata every day of the week as a squad player.

01 Feb 2019 20:38:03
1.) OGS for me, if the club plan (which i am having doubts about tbh) to bring in a director of football to handle matters and plan for the long term then i don't think the role of manager will be as significant.

2.) In - Alderweireld/ Koulibaly, Neves, nicholas pepe and (Raul Jiminez/ or promote mason greenwood as backup striker) .

3.) Out - A selection from (darmian, valencia, rojo, smalling, jones, young, mctominay, fred, pereira, sanchez and lukaku)

4.) 4-4-2 diamond or flat midfield but whatever it is we need to play to our strengths and get martial and rashford up top together as a partnership.

01 Feb 2019 20:45:44
Would you spend £50m to get Poch though?

{Ed025's Note - its not my money...but yes, hes the best available and that could prove to be a bargain imo..

01 Feb 2019 20:54:31
Right now it’s Ole or Poch, and I think both want the job so let’s see how the season develops.

01 Feb 2019 20:56:13
It’s an interesting debate and I’d be chuffed with either, don’t get me wrong. Solskjaer just sounds like he has the right mentality and is a winner, Poch understandably sounds negative at times.

01 Feb 2019 21:13:54
1) Manager, conduct a thorough review of options, the decision should be in line with how the club sees the most effective future structure. Then decide the who. Pochettino, Or Ole are possibilities as are others, I wouldn’t rule out more experienced previous winners like Conte.

2) Players in - Right Back Wan Bissaka, Centre Back. Undecided, I still like Harry Maguire. Right side midfield: Jadon Sancho. Centre Mid, Verratti

3) Players out - Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Valencia, Pereira, Lukaku

4 ) Controlled attack with invention at home, ability to break with pace away from home, control in midfield in tough games.

01 Feb 2019 21:49:48
Not wanting to nail Poch but spurs are a failure.

Most would acknowledge they have had one of the best teams in the league over recent years yet they have won nothing.

{Ed025's Note - not had the squad or the chairman to provide one in levy, as first 11,s go they are as good as anyone mate..

01 Feb 2019 22:06:08
So we fluked the win at Spurs when De Gea was man of the match. Tom Heaton gets man of the match for Burnley but we were very lucky? Very contradicting don't you think 😂 lol.

{Ed025's Note - thats a fair point damon.. :)

01 Feb 2019 22:34:04
Poch's buys have been poor though. Despite Levy being tighter than scrooge he's still had money fo spend and mostly spent on guff. He buys a type of player that I feel wouldn't be suited to united. Also he's still failed to win anything. There's a mental fragility there. And he always comes across as negative. I get relieving pressure but he just comes across as negative. Other managers say similar things an get pilloried.

02 Feb 2019 05:02:05
Forgot to say, as well as the fringe players I would also sell Lukaku. I don’t see where he fits and we’d likely get big money. Another great guy, decent player, just doesn’t fit or have the rights skliis for the way we want to play.

As for Poch sounding negative, I think he is starting to create a narrative around the lack of signings. It’s kind of ‘look how brilliantly I have done even though we haven’t signed anybody’. Not sure if he is fluttering her eyelashes at us but since Ole joined Poch has been more blunt in his comments about Spurs ‘top 4 is more important’ and so on. Of course I may be possibly reading too much into his comments.

02 Feb 2019 10:01:18
Yeah I can see that. I just don't think Poch suits united though. Something just doesn't feel right. The same as the last three didn't feel right. I'd back him if he was appointed the same as I backed the other three but it feels like the wrong appointment to me. I'm more concerned about DoF though. We've been trying to get one in for three years with no progress and now we're all expecting one within the next three months? Seems unlikely to me.

02 Feb 2019 10:10:22
If OGS keeps this up, I'll prefer him to every other manager out there.

Come on guys, look at how he's got us playing. Yes, I do understand concerns about his experience but Manchester United isn't his first managerial role - he was our reserve manager for about 4 years and he has been managing other teams for 8 years albeit "smaller" teams.

He also coached our first team strikers and worked directly under Fergie.

He is known to be of good character (looking at you Giggs) and an all round Nice fellow.

Managing us seems to be a dream for him and you can see it everyday.

I believe we should not let him go.


In terms of personnel, a right and lefback.

02 Feb 2019 10:25:39
AJH,
i think you make a good point about poch . Time to move on from spurs. i'm not sure he can take them further . I think he will be the next Manchester United manager.

02 Feb 2019 10:43:09
For me its still too early to say.
I personally hope ole gets the job.
If we secure top 4 its hard to argue that we could have done any better under anybody else.
He gets the club ethos. He has most of the fans onside he has the players onside. He has the confidence of most people within the club.
He has handled himself brilliantly in the press and his intelligence shines through.
He has improved the form of our better players. Pogba, mata jessie, and rashford in particular. Martial is also playing much better although he has caught fire yet in terms of goal scoring for ole but i hope that will come.
Id trust ole to select future man united signing because he knows better than most what it takes to succeed.
Some will want the shiney new coach but i'm wuite happy with the ine we have and with the job he is doing.

02 Feb 2019 10:52:28
Tough one, for me there are 4 names I would consider for manager, Ole, Pochettino, Howe and Nuno Espirito Santo. I think experience in the EPL is important, as well as the ability to develop young players and playing entertaining offensive football.

Of the four Ole is just shading it for me, based on we are seeing what he could do. The others still have a question mark over whether they could do it at our club.

The most important thing though is the DoF role needs sorting, Paul Mitchell from what I can find out about him might be an excellent candidate. But I have to admit my understanding of what is required for the role is limited. So I will admit there might/ probably are better candidates out there.

Tactics wise? I like the look of this 433/ 4312 formation. Fluid front three, with cover in midfield. It reminds me a lot of how we played in 2008, with Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo as the front three and Carrick, Scholes and Hargreaves in midfield. I would be happy to see that continue.

As for who should come in, I'd like to see Koulibaly, Ricardo Pereira, Reben Neves and Tanguy NDembele.

With Jones, Rojo, Valencia, Darmian, Andreas Pereira, Joel Pereira, Lee Grant and Mata leaving.

Giving us a squad of:

DDG, Romero, Henderson.

Ricardo Pereira, Dalot, Lindelof, Smalling, Bailly, Koulibaly, Tuanzebe, Shaw and Young.

Matic, Herrera, Pogba, Neves, Fred, NDombele, McTominay.

Lukaku, Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Sanchez, Chong, Gomes and Greenwood.

{Ed004's Note - Currently Ole would be my first choice for the job. However, a lot can change between now and the end of the season. Its between him, Poch and Blanc. A head of football should be a necessity, which i think it is. But looking at the side. Id like to see 4 players come in (think thats roughly how many we target in a summer). Wan Bissaka to compete wjith Dalot with Young and Shaw on the other side - although if funds were there for a 5th signing Id look to replace Young. Koulibaly to partner Lindelof or Bailly with Smalling covering for injuries. I think we need cover/eventual replacement for Matic. No clue what Cdms are out there. Maybe a young player like Ndombele or someome like Casemiro if Madrid are changing their side up. Up top one of Sanchez or Lukaku will leave as neither will be happy as a back up imo. Sancho or Dembele would be perfect signings but maybe too expensive so someone like Pepe at lille but im not 100% convinced on him. Either way should tie down Herrera to a new deal. Let him and a settled Fred compete for spot beside Pogba[

02 Feb 2019 11:36:29
Sorry fresh players in is a big one. Of course that will depend on outgoings too.
Imo we need a Rb to compete with dalot
A left back to compete with shaw. Young can fill that role for another 12 months but its not ideal.
A cb to compete with lindelof tuanzebe bailly smalling

A cm to rotate with matic and depending on freds progress we my need another cm to compete with pogba herrera.

Mata can be covered by youth if he goes but if either sanchez or lukaku leave they will need replacing too.

Wan bissaka or doherty (wolves) for rb koulibaly/ skrinner cb
Neves cm
We could do worse than sign wilson or king from Bournemouth if Lukaku were to leave.

02 Feb 2019 12:04:36
For me its Pochettino for manager

Ins, would love Varane, but realistically Koulibaly, Wan bissaka, Declan Rice and David Brooks. Young players with massive potential.


Outs, Valencia, Smalling, Rojo, Pereira, maybe Lukaku.

02 Feb 2019 12:19:28
Bissaka or Bellerin, Koulibaly or Skrinar, Dembele and Verrati or Neves for the middle.

02 Feb 2019 12:30:39
Id have said bellerin only for his cruciate just gone. Wouldn't argue with the rest Singh.

02 Feb 2019 12:52:30
Yes very true Ken but i think Bellerin will be fine and is still very young.

02 Feb 2019 13:26:40
Pereira at Leicester for the RB position. Think he's going to be a beast of a player. Can play further forward too if needed. If Chelsea continue to implode and play Kanté out of position, I'd push all out for him.

02 Feb 2019 14:38:34
Pereira is a very good player . Kante does not look comfortable in the role sarri is asking him to play i think psg or madrid would provide stiff opposition for his services i guess.
Replacing matic won't be easy.

02 Feb 2019 15:17:31
Ole is doing fantastic but we are in a position where we can see how he finishes aswell as how he's started, hopefully more of the same and he's then stated his case for the job.
Player wise for a long time I've wanted a right side attacker, however with lingaard and Sanchez there to me there are now bigger priorities . The CB and RB spots need upgrading but if we were to sign 4 players then 2 central midfielders would come into my thinking as if pogba were to be injured any 3 from mctom, matic, Herrera, perrera and Fred for any length of time strikes me as steady but not good enough to bridge any gap to city . I know Mata or Jesse could maybe drop in there but not for me personally .
Most of the names mentioned above would see fairly dramatic improvement to me .







 

 

 
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