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24 Nov 2018 16:27:30
0-0, getting outplayed by Palace and our midfield is Matic and Fellaini; we are utterly crap.

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24 Nov 2018 16:54:59
Fellaini and Matic are Jose's two favourite midfielders in our squad.

24 Nov 2018 16:56:20
Agreed.

24 Nov 2018 17:02:33
You're okay Leahy12 🔴🔴🔴😁.

24 Nov 2018 17:12:12
That was an awful watch. I don't think any player or the coach did a good job today. Truly awful every last one of them with exception of ddg.

24 Nov 2018 17:17:03
Any sign things are getting better.

24 Nov 2018 17:21:01
Lindelof Ken? Was only beaten once, arguably Matic's fault, he kept on going and going all game.

24 Nov 2018 17:21:43
Why do you think that was Ken?

24 Nov 2018 17:32:44
There's no spirit, no fight for each other, no leader, most players more worried about their hair and the colour of their boots, first thing needs doing is get rid of Jose the boy with the blue tint living in a hotel who criticises his players. Then get rid of 7 or 8 of those players who are good for nothing,
Blank sheet start again they aren't good enough or don't deserve to play for united.
Them boys playing rugby would put those football players to shame.

24 Nov 2018 18:08:42
Had a 50 million new cm signing sitting on the bench.

24 Nov 2018 18:31:00
I think today shappy we were pretty poor from the start and got worse as the game went on.
The full backs were awful for the most part in attacking sense. Martial had one of those games where nothing went for him himself and pogba gave the ball away or lost it from start to finish.
Matic needs dropping he has been below par all season really.
For me martoal and lukaku don't play well together at all.
Martial has been much better off rash and sanchez's movement.
Personally i'd would have played fred instead of matic from the start or have seen him instead of fellaini.
I agree with leahy there are lots of players that offer nothing positive at all. We need to see 7 or 8 to leave. Jose will be gone in the summer back to madrid if not before that. I just hope the new coach is allowed to clear the decks. The squad is riddled with mediocrity, questionable character and complacency imo.
Leahy is also correct there is no leadership on the pitch. Look at our last 3 regular captains smalling valencia and young. I wouldn't follow any of them into the lottery office if they had a winning ticket never mind into battle.
No result this team has surprises me. We can win any game but we can also lose against any team.
Should we be in a better position than we are with what we have, of course the answer is yes.
There is lots of issues the club face from top to bottom as ed002 has told us. The manager is not the root cause of all or most of the issues imo. Now is a time for everybody to pull together and finish the season as well as possible. There is so much hyberbole and nonsense spouted through various platforms that some people get into a tizzy.
Its not a good time but we as a club have come through worse.
I don't trust the boards decesion making.
I don't fully trust the players.
I don't fully trust the coach
No major decisions should be made until a DOF is appointed. A clear strategy is drawn up and then applied with the preferred personal put in place to implement the strategy.
Of course there is no shortcuts back to the top. But changes need to be made from top to bottom.

24 Nov 2018 18:46:21
So should we get rid for Jose?

24 Nov 2018 18:55:41
Ken

Fully agree with that.

24 Nov 2018 18:55:50
Ken, that's WHAT happened today. I wanted to know why in your opinion it happened?

24 Nov 2018 19:00:55
Never mind city etc we look no better in fact we play worse footy than most mid table teams .
Pogba Sanchez matic people told me time and again these where top players . Before we bought them .

So many players regressing, going backwards, poor outdated tactics.
I'm watching spurs at the moment full of energy high press quick tempo everything we are not under Jose.
It's been really really poor since the start of season, Jose has had millions to spend has had time, this is his 3rd season and he is taking us backwards .
Make no mistake we are playing like a mid table team .

3 years 400 million spent to play this brand off football sat with Bournemouth and Watford.

So much wrong with this team ON THE PITCH and the buck will stop with the manager, it has to .

City are playing amazing footy so credit to pep .
United are awful and that's down to Jose.

People have backed and backed him, made excuses after excuse but maybe the truth is they where wrong and Jose is the wrong man for the job .

I wanted him as manager but I was wrong he is not the right man for United and he could well be a spent force.

24 Nov 2018 19:08:45
I won't wouldn't jred. For many reason the primary one being sack him for whom? What plan? What strategy? A clear plan and a DOF needs appointing before we look to change coach. Imo. Flying by the seats of our pants has not bode well over the past 5 years and generally doesn't bode well for a business of our clubs size.

24 Nov 2018 19:20:09
So you would let Jose see his contract out?

24 Nov 2018 19:22:09
Should we of stuck with moyes and lvg . Or kept them and just got a DOF.
Was the poor football under LVG and moyes down to them ?

24 Nov 2018 19:29:51
I think Jose got the job too late, he should have came in when fergie went. you can't as a manager get away with consistent bad negative football when your manager of Manchester United, I mean wolves are playing much better football than we are. I was at a game today a youths game, we were up against one of the best teams around. Down 1 0 at half time one of our players sent off just before half time, that it now I said to myself we will get rolled over here. any way I've never seen ten players to work so hard for each other, there was no skill involved just hard work, filling in the spaces running simple passes, played for each other got a goal ended a draw.
Take the chains off and let them play, players now are being over coached if you ask me,
Tighten up the back 4 and let the forward players play like they are playing down their local park.

24 Nov 2018 19:31:23
Look at that performance today, the players available to Jose against a struggling palace team, at home.

That and it has been all season is a manager and team struggling .

As a club we are doing really well off the pitch, it's on the pitch that we have an issue.

Jose won the treble with Porto with inter but imo he is a shadow of that manager, his tactics and approach are outdated poch pep and co are playing a different brand .

Fergy adapted Jose is still trying to do the same things he was 10 year ago .

24 Nov 2018 19:37:21
Ken’s point about the lack of leadership is telling. We do lack leaders, senior players who can get a grip and organise. Think back to SAF, there were so many. Robson, Bruce, Ince, Hughes, Schmeichel, Keane, Eric, then we had the maturing class of 92, Nevilles, Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, and then we moved to Rooney, Carrick, Rio, Vidic. There are so many big characters we had through the years we were spoilt for choice yet now we are sadly lacking. We have a lot of young players and the older ones don’t seem to have the stature to get a grip and influence things.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of Jose’s recent comments younger players do seem a little precious today and they don’t get the same induction they perhaps did in years gone by. We have some great players but we lack leaders.

24 Nov 2018 20:30:36
Do we lack leaders or has Jose pissed them off so they won't lead for him?

Did you see Lukaku with Belgium at the world cup? Cheering his teammates on and geering them up.

Or Pogba in the changing room before the world cup final?

Apparently Pogba has a posse of players who follow him.

24 Nov 2018 21:01:53
Shappy ajh
Imo you both make good points, we do look like we need a few leaders but then again lukaku does do it with Belgium and everyone has seen the videos of pogba in the dressing room with France on the way to winning the world cup .
Was matic not bought to be a Jose leader .
Then again how many of our players look better or different with there previous clubs or international teams .

A lot has been made of our young players not performing but are our senior players playing well? Our new signings our old signings .

A lot is made about what's going on off the pitch but look at other teams, the way they set up there tactics there work rate, everything.
We look a poor outfit at the moment.

24 Nov 2018 21:19:15
When a fan base is divided it never ends well. the only way now is to change the manager weather your Jose in are out.

24 Nov 2018 21:24:54
Nothing surprising there.

24 Nov 2018 21:25:51
the womens team would probably play better.

25 Nov 2018 09:31:55
The women's team does play better, as does the under 23's and the under 18's. In fact every Manchester United team plays better football than our first team, despite the fact that those teams function on a fraction of the money our first team does. In fact Pogba's yearly wages would probably cover the running costs of all our youth and women's teams for the whole year.

That tells you money isn't the answer, it's about coaching. About getting the most out of the players you have.

25 Nov 2018 10:49:19
Shapoy
Exactly, a managers job is to get the best out of the players he has .







 

 

 
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