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07 Oct 2018 10:26:37
One of the biggest take homes from yesterday is that we came back into the game when Mata played centrally. With Mata as a playmaker, we started playing at a faster pace, and he brought other players into the game. This is unsurprising because his best form was there for Chelsea before Jose came back.

I would love to see Mata given a more prominent role alongside Pogba and Matic in the centre. This would help us speed up our play in the attacking third, and help Pogba to make some driving runs. The issue is that it took absolute desperation for Jose to put him there. For me, a player with Mata's quickness of thought and passing could be the key to our attack. But only if he isn't playing with two holding players. We have the ingredients to play attacking football, but they are not being used correctly.

As a side note, if you spend the summer publicly stating that your central defenders aren't good enough, you can't be surprised if they lack confidence, look indecisive, and start making mistakes. We have the same back line as last season, the difference is that their confidence is shot.

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07 Oct 2018 11:11:53
Danny, spot on. Our defence only conceded one more goal that City last year yet all Summer they have been told they aren’t good enough. Players can be fragile, constantly being told we need a new CB, regularly being rotated, does not build confidence. If someone tells you often enough you are crap, you will start believing it.

07 Oct 2018 12:03:01
Or if your boss challenges you and calls you out for being poor you knuckle down and improve if you have the right character AJH.
I know some people don't like hearing the truth and don't like being called out in public but he has been doing that for years it works sometimes. Players shouldn't be so touchy and sensitive. Just bust your ass to prove him wrong like shaw has done.
To that ooint i agree with ferdinand and scholes jose shouldn't be so touchy when he is critisised.

I think his point on rashford and mctom yesterday was that as young players all the press digs at the team had a negative effect on them and they looked scared to play. I think he has a valid point. They are young lads who are going through a lot of negative coverage for the first time and they are not reacting well to it. So jose was pointing out that fact. Nothing wrong with it imo. He was saying that the 'manhunt' as he calls it is causing some of the younger players issues. He is mature enough to deal with it as are some of the players others are not. I don't see it as a dig at the 2 players. But people are looking at it negatively to sensationalise a fair analysis of why he felt they were below par.
Taken out of context or if your negatively disposed towards the manager it can easily be twisted to make a negative headline or gossip point.

07 Oct 2018 12:10:12
To be fair I believed our centre backs were crap before Jose told us.

07 Oct 2018 12:10:14
Agreed Danny, but i thought Matic played well last year until the last two months, so he shielded the defence. Agree on Mata, but i thought Pogba was the difference when he was allowed a free role. Also, it shows how well Martial can play and how Rashford has gone backwards.
Rashford, was so frustrating, making wrong decisions and missing two guilt edged chances. But he'll learn as he's young. I feel we need a specialized attack coach to develop our front line and work on finishing.
We cannot get carried away. This was Newcastle United, they've got two points and are looking like relegation candidates. Yet, they made us look poor in the first 30mins. Our defence tactically was pure shambles. The first goal was Sunday league and complete amateur defending from the whole team.
Mctominay is an average midfielder at best, he's not even good enough to play for United in midfield, but to play him as cb in two matches, was non sensical.
But loved the way the team was allowed freedom in the 2nd half. As you say, it took desperation for Mourinho to let this happen, which is frustrating.

07 Oct 2018 12:25:28
Ken, i could not disagree more with you on this point. Mctominay and Rashford were both useless yesterday, and in my opinion, Mctominay should not be anywhere near our first team, he simply is not good enough, will he make City, liverpool, Real, Barcelona first teams?
However, for Mourinho to single them out in the after match conference is the worst man management i have seen in any walk of life. It does not help in any shape or form.
Matic, Smalling were complete waste of time too, so should Mourinho have attacked them as well, and add Bailly to that list too. It is not a matter of being critisized, but there's a constructive way of doing it, and Mourinho's methods are not working.

07 Oct 2018 13:10:15
Each yo their own AAA. I as an ex employee and when playing sport preferred to be man managed the way jose does it and its my preferred style as an employer.
It got the best out of me and it gets the best out of everybody in our company.
I well aware it doesn't keep people happy all the time but that's life.
I understand why its not for everybody and why some can be offended by it as i say each to their own.

07 Oct 2018 17:38:56
Ken - It's down to having respect for your boss. He is damaging their careers, making work uncomfortable for them. If your boss is in the public eye speaking nonsense or throwing you under the bus publicly then it is going to effect how you think of him.

I have worked under some great bosses and I was a great employee in return. However for the brief instances I worked under poor bosses I either stood my ground or if I didn't think it worth the time/ energy I moved elsewhere.

If you don't respect your boss then it's hard to bite your tongue if you have anything about you. Footballers don't have the luxury of walking out like most people do.

I'm also old school in my management thinking - anyone gives me lip they are out the door (unless they are right) . It doesn't work nowadays for the most part, especially in the current snowflake social media culture we are surrounded by.

08 Oct 2018 06:54:35
I am with Ken on two points in the last couple of posts. First that our centre halves are more exposed this season because the full backs push up more. SAF built his teams on two strong centre halves who could cope one on one. Our central defenders get out of position and do not dominate any attack. Second point is about Mctominay and Rashford, which I made on the other page yesterday. He was making a point that the hounding of our manager and our club is making young players nervous. Likely trying to make some realise it is damaging people other than the manager. It is why it is difficult to put young players into any team that is struggling but even more so at one the size of ours plus the added pressure of the present witch hunt.

There are different management styles but people miss the point that being a leader, can mean a different style again and great leaders (and I am not saying Jose is great) are not always sweetness and light.

08 Oct 2018 12:00:26
Bang on redman.







 

 

 
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