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29 Sep 2018 17:23:20
The players are as much to blame as Jose but the buck stops with him. So many of them aren't putting in the effort. There is zero pressing or closing down. There is no urgency or clear attacking plan. Matic is ambling about the place in a slow jog and he's supposed to be our midfield leader. Everything is slow, lacking vision and apathetic. They look like they don't care. What was he thinking putting McTominay centre half? Bizarre. It's like something a spoilt child would do; you didn't buy me the centre back I wanted so look what I have to do now? I think it's broken now and Jose's position is untenable. He probably didn't get the support he wanted in terms of signings but he hasn't improved any of his players bar maybe Lingard who didn't make the squad today. He's succeeded in alienating a large portion of his players and slagged off too many of them publicly. It's become a complete mess. I can't see any way back from this. How many of our players would get into the Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Spurs team? Apart from De Gea not many if any. Root and branch restructuring required.

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29 Sep 2018 18:05:06
Zero effort closing down? No pressing? Come on DSG, do you think if the players were trained and instructed to press or stay close to their opponents they wouldn't?


Mourinho orders them to stand off and go on the counter.


Why do you think every team from Wolves to Derby to Tottenham all look like the all mighty Barcelona when we play them?


Are you trying to tell me that all these years Mourinho and his coaching haven't realized it or that they instructed the players to do so but the players refused or are you insinuating that it's the players' prerogative to press or not press during the game?


Are they not given tactical instructions based on opponent scouting by the coaching team before and during the game?


Why does the manager and his coaching team are on the touchline and have the ability to change personnel, formation or tactics in-game?

Lol.

29 Sep 2018 18:19:24
It is like he wants to be sacked to get a payout.

He doesn't want to be here anyway so why have someone that isn't committed 100 percent

People have been debating if a new manager would change the way the players are working well just look at hazard. New manager and he is on fire.

It's only going to get worse.

I can't see where and when our next win will come from

The football is dated and slow and tbh it's getting tiring saying the same thing every week.

29 Sep 2018 18:32:42
There were 8 players behind the ball and no one pressing for most of the game. These players were good when they were at their previous clubs so I can't blame them anymore for their form. Lukaku was constantly among the top scorers when at everton and now he can't get score at all. The players are sent with the instruction of not conceding and it was working until other teams realized and they could break us even with a little pressure and we don't exactly have fast players for counter attack. Every match seems like we are playing against City or Liverpool, no team is afraid of us as they know that defence is the priority. It's just down to Jose from team selection to our playing style. These same players will look world class under some other manager.

29 Sep 2018 20:03:06
Yaz

What on earth are you talking about? Clearly the coaches are not telling the players to saunter around the pitch and not bother to win the ball back.

It isn't a tactical issue of high press versus low press. The players are simply not putting the effort in.

Jose has lost the players, even the crowd today were quiet. Woody created this situation by not backing jose in market. But I can't see how Jose can come back from this.

29 Sep 2018 21:12:01
They are told to only mark when players are within certain territories.

Or is zonal marking for which Mourinho is fabled a new concept to you?


Players will fall back into a predefined shape and distance trying to constric their opposition attack without committing (pressing) and losing shape.

That's why when any of out players chases down, he suffers and stops because others don't. They are firmly rooted.


When ball is won, a worked out counter attack pattern ensues.


As for the pressing, ironically, Mourinho only tries that against big teams -

Sometimes I wonder if people only watch games for the sake of watching. SMH They are told to only mark when players are within certain territories.

Or is zonal marking for which Mourinho is fabled a new concept to you?


Players will fall back into a predefined shape and distance trying to constric their opposition attack without committing (pressing) and losing shape.

That's why when any of out players chases down, he suffers and stops because others don't. They are firmly rooted.


When ball is won, a worked out counter attack pattern ensues.


As for the pressing, ironically, Mourinho only tries that against big teams -

Sometimes I wonder if people only watch games for the sake of watching. SMH.

29 Sep 2018 21:47:29
Jose’s attitude is you can’t make mistakes if you don’t have the ball.
Says it all really that’s why they don’t high press.

29 Sep 2018 23:16:17
On the plus side you will probably get tonked by city and Chelsea then change manager in time to play and beat us 🤦🏻‍♂️.

30 Sep 2018 08:25:49
Lukaku has 19 goals in his last 17 games for Belgium it's almost like he is a decent player.







 

 

 
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