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17 Sep 2018 16:55:34
Another tricky away fixture navigated well on the weekend. A game of two halves if there was ever one. Iv seen people complain about how Jose set up in the second half but I think he managed the game well. We were well deserved to be 2 up at half time and could have been more.

We maybe sat back a bit early in the second half but we had more than enough chances in the second half to finish it off, our forwards were just making poor decision's in the final third. It's not easy on the old ticker sitting back in the last few moments of a game but we thoroughly deserved a win.

On a side note Ed001, this site seems to die down when we win and when we lose its post after post. Does the traffic normally get heavier when a team loses? Even on the other sites?

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, people have more stuff to say when a team loses on all sites.}

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17 Sep 2018 18:04:16
Mumbles, good post. Good game to be honest. I think a game limited to a bad batch of about 15 minutes. And that's a good Watford team, one who will cause many problems.

I think since our game against spurs we have been much more direct in our play. We are still prone to missing too many chances but I think that will change over time. In this team, it will also be nice to have rashford back in there as I believe he will thrive a lot more in a more potent attack.

Big mentions to fellaini and smalling, both had fantastic games.

17 Sep 2018 18:33:23
Agreed Angel. Our performances are scrutinised more than others. If we win ugly, it's "we play terrible football". If we win comfortably it's "it was only *insert team here*".

Games eb and flow and we need to more clinical and put games to bed earlier. I agree that we have been better going forward the last few games but make no bones about it, Jose isn't afraid to park the bus to ensure 3 points.

Last 24 game's we've scored first we've one them all.

17 Sep 2018 18:59:16
This is how far we have fallen - getting excited about beating the Watford whipping boys. We should be beating this relation fodder 5 nil at least, not scraping a lucky 2 - 1 win. Lukaku's goal was just lucky, coming of his guys and Smallings was just a fluke. Watford missed 8 easy chances and should have has 3 penalties.
We are Man It's, and I expect more. I want more. And I want it now.

17 Sep 2018 19:17:34
Haha betty, nail on the head.

17 Sep 2018 19:23:22
Betty. No team has any given right to be putting 5 past any team.

{Ed025's Note - i think bettys irony is lost on you RW mate.. :)

17 Sep 2018 19:55:59
Brilliant as ever Betty even with the odd (20ish) spelling mistakes, I think I got the general gist 😂.

17 Sep 2018 20:07:25
Of course I am being ironic - some may just call it sarcastic.
But Mumbles' second post was spot on - we are damned if we do and damned if we don't. It would be nice to see a little more appreciation to a good result and decent performance, but instead we just seem a o concentrate on being envious of Liverpool and City.

17 Sep 2018 20:29:24
Good post mumbles its becoming a habit👍
2 away wins pretty effective.
Ysome will say effective but not pretty.
Momentum is everything if we can win 4 more games in a row we will chip away at the gap.
Fellaini has done all asked of him in the last 2 games.
So has smalling he was our 1st choice cb all last season and he deserves ro be in the team.
Sanchez looking a bit lost not lacking effort but not looking very dangerous.
Ddg showing exactly what top class is.

17 Sep 2018 21:06:17
Awful isn't it GDS - quite embarrassed reading it back. I am sure auto correct changes things after it has been sent on my tablet - I certainly didn't sent with in saying Man It's instead of Man Utd.

17 Sep 2018 22:02:37
My bad Betty 😂.

18 Sep 2018 08:36:00
Betty, you might be trying to be funny but City beat them 6-0 at Vicarage Road last season.

18 Sep 2018 10:04:54
MancMan - Watford have also beaten Spurs there recently, and beat Chelsea 4-1 there earlier in the year. But neither of these results are any more or less relevant than the 6 - 0 City game.

Perhaps we should just concentrate on United rather than being a voyeur to City and Liverpool?

18 Sep 2018 12:57:46
Good point well made Betty.

18 Sep 2018 13:48:17
Sorry Betty and Ken but I don't agree. City, Chelsea and Liverpool are setting the standard right now so we should pay attention to how they are going about it.

There are two obvious differences between them and us. They all play high tempo, attacking football and they assert their game on the opposition rather than starting on the back foot with tactics designed to negate the threat of the opposition.

We should be doing the same rather than gazing at our own navel as you seem to be suggesting.

18 Sep 2018 15:45:25
Manc- I get where you are coming from and I would also like to see us playing a more attractive and attacking brand of football. But I want to see us doing that because it is our way of playing, not because other teams do it. Ultimately, most of us want the same thing and that is United playing well and winning. But I don't want us to be anyone else.
Of course what other teams do does matter, but I really do not care what other teams do. And when United do play well and win, a little recognition would help. Unfortunately, this thread started off by highlighting the fact that even our own fans have a strange refusal to acknowledge a decent result and performance.
My first reply may well have been ironic, or even sarcastic but in all honesty it is not too different to some genuine serious posts that are put up after we win games.
Like Mumbles said, if we don't play well but win, the football is awful. If we lose, the football is awful - irrespective of how we have actually played. And if we play well and win, its because it was 'only' Watford or Burnley etc. Hence the damned if we do and damned if we don't bit.

18 Sep 2018 16:48:33
Fantastic post Betty. Likewise mumbles, I enjoy reading your posts. Always balanced and well thought out.

18 Sep 2018 18:44:39
Manc man i agree that our football is not a great watch at the moment. I also agree its folly to ignore our opposition but that was not what betty posted.
You have given up going to games and that's your chioce. If its pure football entertainment you want buy a season ticket for city.
Even though i have issues with the manager some playing staff and the board i will still watch every game and go to as many as possible.
Everybody supports tje club in thier own way. I don't support them to be entertained all the time (although it would be nice) i support the club because its a way of life for me.
Ill often not particularly like certain players managers coaches or whatever but ill never not watch out of choice. But i respect your right to and your reasons for not going. I understand your frustrations. But ill always try to find fault with the opposition not glorify them the way some do. Yes i'm biased but show me a supporter who isn't.

18 Sep 2018 17:45:37
Mumbles, when we lose, i post as I'm annoyed, when we win, i post to say well done. So I'm not sure if people do the same.

18 Sep 2018 20:49:18
But we haven't had any good performances for a long time so how can anybody praise what doesn't exist. There have been some decent moments and some reasonable results but that's about it and that's been the case for about six years now. Six years!

So, I don't think it's fair to mock posters here who are thoroughly pigged off and don't see much to be positive about because even when we win it's a waste of time watching it and I strongly resent that there is so little joy to be had.

The most depressing part is that it didn't have to be this way. The club could have appointed a manager or managers who would entertain the fans and bring success. They still can. We could have been having the footballing time of our lives for the last six years like they are at City and are starting to have at Liverpool and now Chelsea.

I guess I'm just jealous because other teams are fun to watch and we are not. My City and Liverpool supporting friends are full of football joy and you can probably tell that I am not.

Betty/ Ken, I wish I could soldier on like you are doing but I feel like I'm being had for a mug. It's like the club are saying "we can serve the supporters up any old crap and they'll keep coming and spending their time and money so why should we bother giving them a decent product". It's an abuse of their position. If Old Trafford was half empty every week and it was made clear that it was because the football wasn't worth watching, you can be sure that they'd start putting on some football worth turning up for.

I also kind of resent supporters like yourselves who keep going week after week because that legitimises this rubbish and tells the club they can carry on regardless. I super resent being told that if I want entertainment I should go and watch City. For the money and time required to go to watch Utd we should expect entertainment at OT as well. I mean is this what it has come to? You're telling me that if I want to see an entertaining game of football I have to go and watch one of our main rivals? Have you heard yourself?

Of course, it's your right to do whatever you want but by accepting this mediocrity you make it much more unlikely we will see any improvement.

I've obviously gone off on one here so I'll finish by apologising if I have gone too far. I don't mean to offend anyone and I promise I haven't been drinking but I feel passionately about this.

18 Sep 2018 22:30:22
Manc, I sense you frastration mate! Look, I am not trying to convince anyone that our football is exciting. It has been boring and lacklustre all too often. I actually agree with a lot of what you say, I would just like to see a bit more of a balanced view on here some times (not you personally) that's all. Everyone has their own views and opinions, and you certainly shouldn't need the feel the need to apologise for voicing yours. I am not trying to change anyone's opinion - just wanting people to acknowledge the good as well as the bad.

18 Sep 2018 23:00:07
No need to apologise mancman.
I rezpect yiur views i know like me you are of a good age and remember all the lean years. Sexton and the boredom of it and liverpool winning year after year.
Its not great at the moment nobody disputes that.
You are totally entitled to support the club your way but you shouldn't resent the way others support the club.
There are lots of differing views on here. Some i agree with some i dont. Your no different mate.

19 Sep 2018 09:26:44
MancMan, you've hit the nail on the head. You are absolutely right in everything you say. I feel exactly the same. Even when we win, like we did at Watford, we played very well in the 1st half, then came out in the 2nd half and the words if our manager must have been, keep it tight, don't take and risks, make sure you win. Instead, the manager should be saying, go out there, play with energy and aggression, exploit any holes they'll be leaving behind amd let's score another goal to finish them. In the end, we had to thank ddg for making a world class save to secure the win. We will win NOTHING with that attitude. Its a coward's way of playing.
So like you, i don't see why we should celebrate a mediocre win over Watford. And like you, i look at City, Liverpool with envious and angry eyes, as we should have this type of football if the owners and the board had done their homework properly when Fergie retired.

19 Sep 2018 12:28:35
Why do the owners care. They're all about making the money and as long as that's coming in they're happy. They only got the cash out after a couple of years of underachievement risking the champions league money. Now the brakes are going on again.

{Ed002's Note - The club did do it's homework and had a plan thatw as ruined by the toxic fans - this has been done to death. The fans that did the damage are the ones that need to take the responsibility for derailing the very ggod plans that were in place.}

19 Sep 2018 15:04:27
Yes Ed002 we all know about the toxic fans; those despicable customers who dared to complain because they were being served a pile of doo dah every week for years. What were they thinking to expect something worthwhile for their hard earned time and money. So unreasonable of them.

Betty/ Ken, thanks for the feedback. I'm pleased I've not upsetting anyone, even when I feel I might be quite direct and abrasive. I disagree strongly with many on this site but it's fun to have a ding dong and I respect all the posters and their views.

{Ed002's Note - Good, so you and they should all be happy with the outcome they have now.}

19 Sep 2018 17:17:58
Absolutely Ed002, as I made clear in my long rant on this thread I'm in football Nirvana. Thanks MUFC for the thrills, spills and sheer edge of the seat entertainment we have received from your appointment of Moyes, LVG and now Jose. Thank goodness we missed out on the total attacking football Alegri would have brought, it would have made me so giddy I think I might have exploded.

{Ed002's Note - You biggest fear should be what happens if West Ham get to Big Sam before Manchester United. Alan Pardew would not be interested but Glenn Roeder is now available.}



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