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28 Aug 2018 18:41:12
Hello Ed002,

Thank you very much for all the info you’ve given and keep giving us.
I keep wondering about one bit though.
You keep saying we should take everything Jose says to the media with a pinch of salt.
I take from that he wants to achieve something with some kind of a show for the media.
Do you have a clue what he is trying to achieve at the moment, or let’s say up until recently, with his grumpy pre-season and start to the season?
Apparently he is different within the camp.
Is he positive towards the team? Is he positive towards EW / the board?
Why is he kicking his Defence in the media?
Thank you in advance for your insights here.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, I would not take any notice of anything he says. He is certainly not interested in trying to provide any sort of "show" for the media. He is trying to achieve the side winning, being successful and, if it is viable, playing attractive football as well. He doesn't need to be positive toward anyone, particularly the media who ask tiresome questions and look to trap an answer in order to produce a splash headline. He certainly does not need to appease players or massage their egos - they have a job to do, if they do not feel they are up to it they simply need to go along to his office and blubber about them not being up to it and demand to play every game and they can be shown the door. He doesn't need to be positive toward the board, he has a job to do and he will do it as best he can. What you need to do is ignore everything he says, and not listen to it and try to analyse what he means from it. I spent a little under two hours with someone who is "high profile" in the media last Tuesday. A complete moron who is looking based on a five minute conversation with person x to publicly try and tear person y apart based on hearsay and without any knowledge of the facts at all. It is a pitiful and predominantly British problem - I would have said English but he isn't. Try not to get in to over thinking these things, try not to take what you hear and read in the media as gospel.}

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28 Aug 2018 19:15:48
Thanks Ed.

So basically you mean he simply tries to best avoid their games and traps?
But there is no agenda from his side at all?

I’m not British, so might misunderstand that, but I’d guess it would be easier on his side to be Mr. Niceguy then to Mr. Grumpy.
But nevermind, I just hope they get their Act together and turn this into a better season then the previous two. That would mean we are moving in the right direction.

Thanks and have a nice evening.

{Ed002's Note - No, I mean what I said. He doesn't need to be anything with them - you seem to be trying to over analyse everything - what he said what I say. Have a nifty evening yourself.}

28 Aug 2018 19:45:55
Ed02 what went wrong for Jose at Chelsea? I you don't mind me asking .
Early days but from the outside its starting to look a bit similar.

{Ed002's Note - Try the Chelsea page.}

28 Aug 2018 19:49:22
Good insight this Ed and makes good reading. Do you think he’d get a lot more support from the club if he wasn’t so outwardly grumpy? Or, does he not care / make a bit of difference?
I buy into not pandering to players though. Get our head down, work hard and earn your super salaries!

{Ed002's Note - I don't understand the question - uou think the support of the club varies depending on the outward mood swings of the manager?}

28 Aug 2018 20:15:02
thanks for the great insight Ed, we’re tabloid fodder at the moment, it seems like the media spend there day trying to make football as dramatic as Coronation street.

28 Aug 2018 22:17:31
Not the support of the club Ed no, that clearly won’t change, but the support of the manager. What I am saying is Jose’s surly public persona certainly could put a lot of fans off backing him as the man they feel to take the club forward - you can see it clearly on these pages.

{Ed002's Note - Who cares if the fans are fickle as well as toxic.}

28 Aug 2018 23:30:10
All clubs have fickle fans.

{Ed002's Note - You sound like a Liverpool fan trying to make it about someone else. Embarrassing.}

29 Aug 2018 07:40:20
Glad to see that ed002 has clarified the gutter british media. I would say sports journalists, but they have little interest in sport and more in sensationalism and outright lies. A few on here would do well to remember that when reading.

29 Aug 2018 08:55:01
You’re right in hope, and it’s not just restricted sports journalism which is far more damaging.

29 Aug 2018 11:47:29
Really insightful and thought-provoking read Ed002, thank you.

Really can’t be easy for Jose at the moment.

29 Aug 2018 12:39:15
Some of our fans are the worst. Just look at how they behaved around LVG sacking.

29 Aug 2018 13:08:37
Can you remember the abuse our captain and all time scorer got.
Unfourtantlt a lot of fans are like that.

29 Aug 2018 14:19:11
Angel, do you remember how poor the football style was under LVG? I think time is starting to tell with how some of us view his stewardship. The revisionism seems to be creeping in. Yes, he had a philosophy and style, which is more then Jose seems to have at the minute, but it was a God-awful style. I'd still take watching Jose's efforts over LVG's any day of the week.

29 Aug 2018 15:31:22
Abuse Rooney got? Like personal? Or what abuse do you mean? Please elaborate on that.

Maybe just some fans rightfully saying he was finished as a contributor to our team. I think they were right about that as it has been shown in the last number of seasons. Unless I'm mistaken and he isn't playing in the US?

However, the respect he received from the very same on here because of his achievements is unquestionable.

Nou, there was a plan in place, fans changed that. We are where we are because that change was made.

29 Aug 2018 15:32:33
Jred, don't mistake criticism for abuse. No matter what suits your narrative.

29 Aug 2018 16:03:11
Yet abuse non football and footy related .
And yet your getting your knickers in a twist because some people have critised our manager, who so hasn't achieved a great deal compared to our previous captain .

So should we support the manager club and players like you say or just Jose.

29 Aug 2018 16:04:56
Or a weak board changed it. Who's to say Allegri would have done any better than Jose. A plan is just a plan. Doesn't mean it would have been a good one 😁.

29 Aug 2018 20:14:06
Jred still misses Rooneyy. Lolllĺ.

29 Aug 2018 21:08:29
Really good post that pal .

30 Aug 2018 07:19:12
Nou, be a better plan than any of us here could come up with 😁

Well any of us except jred 😂.



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