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22 Aug 2018 14:25:00
Just watched the analogy of the 98/ 99 winning the PL title sends goosebumps on my arms.
How I wish we are in those times again. I'm really feeling a bit sad at our current situation. Hope we get better. Of course in those days there were no media and agents prostituting players for high prices. In addition there was authority given to SAF and full backing. Players do not come out on media talking about SAF etc (nobody really dared) 🤣🤣. How times have changed. 😔😔.

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22 Aug 2018 15:28:47
Its like a parallel universe now, trappy players and the executive waltzing into the changing room while the manager faces the press, i doubt SAF would have let deadwoods' feet touch., but to be fair to ed, since he grew that beard, left the communards and changed his name from jimmy summerville he's done well, i bet he's still a right dodgy dancer though!

22 Aug 2018 16:38:59
Agents and the media have always been dodgy. Its just with social media and 24 hour coverage its magnified.

22 Aug 2018 18:39:27
Class, what utter tosh, Jose has had millions and appears not to be able to get the best out of the players he has bought. If Ed has done anything wrong it is giving him an extension.

22 Aug 2018 19:00:52
AJH, how do you know Jose bought all these players?

Could Pogba be a club buy? Yeh he was, his agent revealed he worked with Woodward for 2 years to sort the deal. When Pogba arrrived Jose was only here a few months.

Matic was of course a Jose buy. And Ibra. Others I am not sure about.

22 Aug 2018 19:15:47
Ed said Jose wanted pogba tried to get him at Chelsea.
But why is that important? The manager has a say on transfer nothing more it's his job to manage the players .
There are other people for scouting etc.

22 Aug 2018 21:27:37
Jred
You constantly post it’s up to Jose to manage the players, that many times I gave up counting.
Based on available players, do you think this team of players is good enough to win the league or the Champions League?
We are nowhere near for me, so therefore 2nd was a good result. No matter how good a coach he is if the players aren’t good enough we won’t win the big prizes.

You also just said “the manager has A SAY on transfer nothing more”. Nice of you to admit he isn’t to blame for transfer errors.

22 Aug 2018 21:46:27
Red man think they are good enough to beat Brighton.
81 points and second yet not playing that well would suggest they can do better .

They are imo a better team than Seville who knocked us out of the CL and a better team than 4 shots on tacked in 180 minutes against them .

Of course the manager only has a say in transfers sometimes not even that but what errors are you talking about
Sanchez? Great player
Pogba great player
Bailly looks a talent
Martial looks a talent
Miki very good player
Shame the manager can't get them playing to there potential . If he could we would of done even better in the league and CL.

22 Aug 2018 21:50:35
Redman
I know you think Jose can do no wrong and he is the best about it's everyone else fault etc etc.
But for me he is past his best has been for a few year .
I was a big fan still think he is a decent coach but he is past his best.

22 Aug 2018 22:15:02
Jred
Reading your list it sounds like you were the scout for some of the substandard players. My position was clear on Jose ever since I said we should have gone for Pep after LvG.

22 Aug 2018 22:27:00
Don’t always agree complatelet with jred but he’s on the money here. Good Manager but past his best. The Seville loss was a tragedy, losing to Brighton again was very poor, the style we see is just not acceptable.

22 Aug 2018 17:18:01
Agents aren’t dodgy. Their job is to get the most money for themselves and their clients. Foootball went down the commercial route decades ago. What do you expect agents to do?

22 Aug 2018 22:32:49
Redman
There all good players I could go on .
You position has been very clear on Jose we have read it .

22 Aug 2018 22:48:08
Jred
I agree with what Neville said about Woodward supporting the manager. I would add that when Neville is negative about Jose some on here are in raptures but when he made recent comments it was like watching tumbleweed. I don’t think there is this magic answer some seem to think there is.

22 Aug 2018 23:08:59
Redman
Some of what he said I would agree with some I wouldn't same as scholes .
Neville has also been very critical of our style of play in the past .
There isn't a magic answer but this blind faith in Jose isn't the answer either .
People on the site are obsessed with buying players it's the answer to everything .
Do you not think Sanchez pogba are top level players? Would you not be worried if you had a manager that couldn't get them playing well?

Or if you had a manager that didn't back young talent at the the club that many other people think are the real deal .

Are the club not right if they were to say we aren't going to spend millions on short term solutions?

23 Aug 2018 06:38:18
Jred
I don’t have blind faith in Jose, I am not enjoying our football. I also didn’t enjoy our football from 1986 to 1990 either, or 77 after Sexton arrived or about 2005, it was equally awful if not worse. In our previous difficult years we didn’t get to or win finals, we have recently. We needed to get two key players and didn’t therefore it makes it difficult to fully criticise the manager this season. If the club had bought the players and things continued I would start to be concerned but right now there is far more wrong with the club than the manager or should I now call him head coach. Also we have only played 2 games, a damp dire performance on Monday will be difficult to stomach, but let’s see what happens.

23 Aug 2018 10:15:10
Redman
Really? Because it has been constant excuses and everyone but Jose fault for 2 season now .

23 Aug 2018 12:39:57
Jred

Perhaps I can see the other issues in the club and don’t blame all our ills on the manager, nor am I a Glazer/ Woodward apologist.







 

 

 
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