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20 Aug 2018 21:28:17
Gary Neville makes some very good points, basically having given a contract extension to the manager, Woodward had to back him in the transfer market with what he asked for. I have read that Woodward was briefing people privately that HE didn't think United needed anyone else, that HE didn't think anything out there was better than what we already had. Read that again and think it through, the Finance man would be dictating the transfer strategy of the club. Back when SAF retired Woodward made the famous no need for re-tooling of the team and that was patently wrong.

We need Woodward put back in charge of numbers, that is what should be the focus, immediately.

People are calling for a Director of Football, yet will he report to Woodward? If so that would be another error. If we get one he should not report to Woodward or we are in the same position as now, he needs to report to the owners directly, only then can we be sure of who is really calling the tune and have clarity or purpose, leave Woodward to bean counting.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any such statements or briefings from EW and if true he will lose his job immediately the club find out.}

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20 Aug 2018 21:44:30
Sounds rubbish to me were did you read that.

20 Aug 2018 21:54:39
Even if it were true, I can't imagine the Glazer's being much more clued up on football matters than Ed.

{Ed002's Note - The Glazer's? I think you are missing a major point here.}

20 Aug 2018 22:08:16
I read it in Red Issue

My main point is where a DoF would report to and for me it should be direct to the board at the same level as Woodward which would put Football and Finance on the same level.

{Ed002's Note - Sounds like speculation - if it is true, he is dead meat anyway.}

20 Aug 2018 22:19:34
Sounds a stretch to me.

20 Aug 2018 22:21:06
I saw today they are looking at a technical director rather than a DOF.

Basically a middleman because Jose and Woodward don't get along.

20 Aug 2018 22:54:21
Ed002, it was in reference to Red Man stating that any prospective DoF should report directly to them, rather than Ed. I just fail to see how that would be any better, when I'm guessing the Glazers' knowledge of the worth (not financial) of prospective signings, especially compared to an experienced football manager, wouldn't be that much better than Woodward's. If at all.

{Ed002's Note - Interesting that you are all getting wraooed up about the organisation chart. The post was in reference to something that will lead to getting EW fired. If it is true he is gone.}

20 Aug 2018 23:17:43
Red Man - What happened this summer is frightening . You simply can't finish 19 points behind the leaders and believe that major investment ISN'T needed in the squad. If that doesn't tell you about the ambition of our Club I don't know what does.

Yesterday shouldn't have come as any surprise it's exactly what happened last season with this bunch of players. Why we didn't strengthen is open to conjecture but the reality is we didn't therefore how can we realistically expect anything to change!

We've been told players were available but none arrived. If Woodward doesn't trust the managers judgement then he should be sacked. How can the Club progress on that basis? The problem being he offered him a new contract 6 months ago. Does any of this even make sense and have we been given any reasonable explanation as to why we failed to sign any other players despite the manager seemingly begging for reinforcements. Just listen to Carragher and Neville on MNF for some sense because you won't get any from Ed Woodward.

20 Aug 2018 23:35:52
No idea if it's true or not, Ed002, which is why I don't comment on it. I try to ignore the gossip that comes out about us in the various media outlets. Too many of our fans seem to be obsessed with what's being said about us. If it happens, I'll take notice then.

21 Aug 2018 02:10:39
DLIB

I think the summer was a mess and even said at one point if they don’t trust him then sack him, do the decent thing. Perhaps admitting they got it wrong again was too much or perhaps would have cost too much.

Neville is right, how could they give him a new contract and not support him. I thought they should have supported him, we should all be able to see our shortcomings and just amazed the club is sat in this utter mess yet again.

It is just speculation and rumour about Woodward but that is what the site is about. We don’t know what Woodward has informed the owners about why we failed to invest in summer but something seemed to make him sit so uncomfortably at the game to the point where Neville criticised him. How many times has a CEO been criticised for his demeanour? I can’t remember it. There are many questions about this summer, much speculation and Woodward should come out and tell us what is going on, but I doubt he will.

21 Aug 2018 09:30:24
How often dies a CEO get the blame when a team isn't playing well?
Bit of a distraction away from the manager.

21 Aug 2018 08:28:17
Ed002,
You mentioned EW would be fired if this was true and it got out.
And you mentioned not by the Glazers.
Who has the power to fire him?
Isn’t half the board comprised of Glazers?

Thanks a lot.

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to getr in to explaining the structure of the business.}

21 Aug 2018 10:11:22
The metaphor GN uses of ‘if you’re going to build a house, then you need to finish it’ rings true with me here. When the club decided to get JM on board they knew what they were doing, especially given how the previous few years turned out. I’m not saying I do or don’t want JM as our manager or whether I’m happy or not with his appointment and continued position but as a club we have got to stop cutting the projects short on our managers. We didn’t do it for over 25 years previously.

JM wanted CBs, why didn’t he get them, that’s the Q that needs answering in my opinion and if the blame can be attached to someone within the club then they need to be held accountable. I’m actually worried that JM will be gone by Xmas (words I never thought would spring to mind) and we’ll hit the reset button AGAIN.

21 Aug 2018 10:56:26
King
Who are the best 5 teams in the world . How often do they change there managers .
Why is it such a big deal.

21 Aug 2018 11:33:23
King, I think the days of Wenger and Sir Alex, for better or worse, are gone mate.

21 Aug 2018 12:43:36
Hi guys, thanks for the replies.
It’s a big deal because it’s a big deal - I’m not bothered about what’s going on over the fence. My main issue is that we are constantly hitting the reset button because of a failure to fully support a manager. The latest laughable bit of media from MR is embarrassing and a lot will be learnt about Pogba, the managers future, the clubs short term future based on how the club, Pogba and manager respond to this. I’ve accepted that some traditions are now lost but I point the main finger at EW for our recent instability. If anyone should leave affiliation with our club over the next week it should be Pogba’s agent and him.







 

 

 
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