17 Aug 2018 17:23:40
Okay, so I've seen the split Scholes post down below and regardless of what he says about United in what world is Scholes a good coach?
He talks as much nonsense as Michael Owen considering he's played the game.
here are just a few ridiculous statements made by Scholes over the years;
"You'll never see a Neymar or a Messi in the Premier League"
On Martial; "He doesn't really look bothered if he misses a chance, not bothered if he scores a goal, whereas as a centre forward all you live for is scoring goals. All you want to do is score goals and he doesn't look like that type of player to me. Maybe they need to go into the transfer market in January for one of them. "
In 2014 he said that Herrera doesn't have any real quality, a few months later he called him the best midfielder in England.
When he was asked about United's best defenders he simply said "no idea, I couldn't tell you".
He's got a right to his own opinion and he can say what he likes, but when he comes on the TV I mute it.
17 Aug 2018 18:02:53
Bang on the money - Moon. Some people are still living in the past and these play3rs were just employees of the club and they don't couldn't care a toss about the club once they leave.
If he cared so much about United he would work for free ans come help the players or the managers he consitently whinges about. Media is very powerful it can make the biggest person look like Einstein.
17 Aug 2018 18:14:46
Wow, one of our legends has a view you don’t agree with so it’s time to slag him off. Singh, I think I can safely say that Scholes, and Neville, and Giggs, and Butt actually do care about the club having spent their whole careers there, coming through the Academy, and being local boys.
Moon, picking isolated quotes and putting them together would make any of us look silly. This has nothing to do with Giggs not getting the job, he has an opinion, you don’t like it, I guess it’s one of those things.
17 Aug 2018 18:57:14
Come work for free? Just pop down to Carrington to run through some drills. Come on mate.
17 Aug 2018 19:10:43
I actually think Scholes is usually bang on in his assessments of us. He’s critical cz he knows how it was and should be at United. Scholes expects the best, so did his team mates, that’s why those teams was winners, maybe we should all take more notice of our ex legends.
17 Aug 2018 19:22:07
What is it that scholes has said that has so upset people.
17 Aug 2018 19:18:52
Turning on a player like scholes . Dear me.
17 Aug 2018 19:32:51
Moon you are correct in what you say in some ways.
Pundits change their opinions as often as their underware. Continuously condradict themselves and rarely admit they are wrong.
But i think most purple are guilty of that from time to time because opinions change. Players form changes there are not too many constants in football.
Best to ignore most of what they say some have agendas some just stir it for ratings and more pay.
Lets remember sholes is not a coach or employee of united. He is a 'journalist' he can say what he likes good luck to him.
My 2nd fav player of all time at united. I respect him greatly as a person I've met him several times my father was instrumental in launching a charity in ireland that scholes supported massively through his friendship with kieth duffy and when my father passed he came over from Manchester to attend his funeral.
He attended a night in honour of my father 1 year later and put the watch he was presented on his testimonial night up for auction for the charity it fetched €32,000 on the night and 2 miles from my home in a childrens playground a swing for wheelchair bound children was installed. I pass it everyday now and think of my father and paul scholes. A very unlikely friendship that lasted about 5 years.
That said i don't like his punditry rio and neville for me.
Sorry for the reminiscing ðŸ‘ðŸ¼.
17 Aug 2018 19:39:33
Most of what he says is true. If he said we play the best football in the league you’d laugh at him.
17 Aug 2018 20:28:59
Scholes negativity reminds me of Eamonn Dunphy, nothing was ever good enough. you can offer an opinion without negativity.
People on here are being told get behind the team after slating manager and players for a reason, so someone in the public eye should do the same. His comments do affect the players, they have to, and he should be more careful in how he expresses his opinion.
Someday, after all the constant negativity, he might be as bitter as Dunphy is today.
17 Aug 2018 21:42:34
Scholes is bang on, a United man through and through. Didn't he tell the chairman of juventus the only way I will ever play for you is if you buy Manchester United, the same scholes who came out of retirement for the United cause,
He was a player that gave 100% for United every time he put the jersey on, them United boys he played with gave 100% and you lot are the same that critise Roy Keane another one that gave 100%, them boys hurt everyone United lost, they would give 100% run through a wall for United and now they expect them players that we have now who are half arsed whether they win or lose. They had a manager that did the same.
I listen to what they say and agree with them wholeheartedly.
17 Aug 2018 22:17:22
Sorry lads but there isn’t one pundit out there who hasn’t spoke sheer brown at any point. Scholes does speak some sense, sometimes he can be harsh, but it’s because he’s a fan. We are all the same. I’ve criticised Jose and praised him the very next day.
Paul Scholes is still a united legend and perhaps the best midfield player I’ve seen in my lifetime. He’s earned the right to be critical.
17 Aug 2018 22:02:53
Once the players has left then they are just an ex player for the club. They don't pay my bills and i don't pay their bills and i don't worship them as they are some sort of god that they can't be wrong in terms of what com3s out of their mouth.
They can be wrong and talk trash as much as managers or fans.
You need to support what you have not what you had in the past.
17 Aug 2018 22:30:41
Singh they are United boys United blood going through their veins
I'd support them over Jose mourinho any day of the week. the yesterday man will leave United and blame everyone but himself the man with the blue blood, the man that doesn't like Manchester.
17 Aug 2018 22:31:16
If something is said that you don't agree with it's wrong, right?
17 Aug 2018 22:40:29
I think he was spot on about Martial.
17 Aug 2018 22:47:51
Sorry, what was wrong with his comments? Can anyone actually see Messi or Neymar in the Premier League? Does Martial give that impression that he has a desire to, score goals like a Van Nistelrooy, Shearer, Drogba etc? When asked about who United’s best defender is, who has he got to pick from? Smalling, Jones, Rojo? All who have been criticised on here by fans. Young or Valencia? Both questioned on here by fans as not out and out defenders. Lindelof, Bailly, Shaw? All who on paper have the potential to be but have yet, if we are all honest, put in consistent performances to justify the title of our best defender! And finally Herrera, he didn’t set the world alight when he came in, wasn’t a house hold name and then put in some passionate displays but really, not ever had any sustained consistency in the team or with performances.
It’s ok to be critical of the team, doesn’t mean he’s not passionate about the team. I take greater offence to Roy Keane’s comments about us as he comes across as bitter and resentful of the club and this is a player who is one of my favourite United players to have pulled on the shirt for what he gave for the club and not forgetting how the club backed him on numerous misdemeanours.
Finally two comments made me fall of my sofa laughing, he should come back and work for free if he loved the club so much and further down the page, they get a script of what to say 😆.
17 Aug 2018 22:52:34
I try not to put too much stock into punditry as a whole tbh Paul Scholes is and will always be a legend in my eyes for the way he played and what he meant to the club and vice versa .
His voice irritates me a bit tho very monotone.
I will always respect the Scholes who had a ball at his feet, not the one with a mic by his gob I'm not that fussed about him 😃.
17 Aug 2018 23:10:04
Ufcourse you should support them but not worship these players and think they could do no wrong.
18 Aug 2018 07:54:15
So, let's analyse your post Moon. He said you'll never see a neymar or messi in PL, and? He is right.
He also said Martial doesn't look bothered if he misses a chance, and Scholes is absolutely right, Martial doesn't look bothered at all. He couldn't comment on our defenders as he meant they were not up to standard, and he's absolutely right about jones, smalling, rojo, darmuan, shaw.
So what has Scholes said that is wrong? He's a legend of our club, he's got United blood through him, and some of you guys turn on him because he's spoken some home truths about our team and manager. Get your blinkers off and actually listen to what he says, and more often than not, it is bang on the money.
18 Aug 2018 08:56:58
Really don't no what scholes said that is so wrong, he has give an opinion and none of it is that far of the mark.
Singh
After post after post of we should sell x y and z are you really spouting " we should support what we have "
The reason we are the club we are with the traditions and standards is also because we remember and support of past . As well as our present.
18 Aug 2018 09:36:43
Scholes was a great United player and deserves total respect for his career. The thing I notice about his punditry is that he is inherently underlyingly negative about the club as it is now. Yes, we are not at the top, yes our players and manager are not performing at their best yet, however compare Scholes comments with those of the much larger press contingent of Liverpool supporters. They have tallked up average players, average managers, average results at their club at every opportunity on every station for years. I am all for being objective but is it too much to ask to see and hear a United pundit be more positive, take our side, stop being so openly negative and critical. We have enough to deal with without our own being more negative than the Liverpool fans who infest the press. Scholes could and should express his opinion but for goodness sake realise he is feeding the fire of those who hate us already. I think Rio is a good pundit and it’s a pity we can’t hire him as a coach.
Scholes the pundit needs to look at the bigger picture when making what are easy throw away comments.
18 Aug 2018 09:46:24
I still think he'd be less critical if his mate Giggs had the job. Then he would be coming out with the comments like give him more time or the owners haven't backed him. A lot of what he has said is true though. But I think he needs to sometimes tone it down and say some of the positives too. Bang on the money though regards martial and the defence.
18 Aug 2018 09:51:03
Scholes the player, never accepted second best, why should Scholes the pundit? Different mindset from the ex-Liverpool players.
18 Aug 2018 10:37:57
Scholes says what he thinks imo like it or not at least it's not just total BS .
Does Redman really want scholes to be overly positive and talk up average players like carra. Dear me .
Should a pundit not speak what he sees as the truth rather than have an agenda .
18 Aug 2018 11:17:36
Jred everyone should be allowed speak what they see and be allowed give their opinion without being ridiculed for it.
18 Aug 2018 11:19:20
Jred you come across like you are some sort of Saint. I never see you support manager or the team. Every post of you is full of the managers quotes in the newspapers or copied posts from fellow posters like me.
The thing is i used to be like you when i was a kid and then i became wise.
Everyone has their own brain ans opinions. I don't come here to preach people and all i pointed out was not to treat these ex players like they can do no wrong.
Actually you might know them better then me since Smalling is your nephew, jones is your uncle's friend and Scholes is related to your far cousin.
Respecing someone is different to follow what they say in the media blindly just because they played foe your club.
18 Aug 2018 12:01:04
Loved Scholes when he was a brilliant player who let his football do the talking, didn’t do interviews or go in for publicity .
Now he’s just another pain in the hole ex pro turned pundit like Owen, Savage, Hargreaves etc.
18 Aug 2018 12:02:26
Jred
As usual you misunderstand. I am not suggest overly positive but consider what he is saying and how he says it better, consider the impact of what he is saying. The fact his comments are taken so strongly as the truth and used to beat the manager with, is proof in itself. He should give his opinion but consider how it comes over. He is very dour and comes over as half empty about our club.
18 Aug 2018 12:04:37
Lol what the heck are you talking about .
Singh
I thought the point you were trying to make was that scholes didn't give a toss and if he cared so much he should work for free .
Not sure what scholes has said that has upset you and a few others so much .
18 Aug 2018 12:25:10
Redman
Why should he consider what he say in regards to Jose?
He is a payed pundit I for one would much rather listen to his true opinion.
As for him coming across as very dour I actually think he comes across as a actual footballer who has been there done it at the highest level .
Still no idea what he has said that has upset you and a few others . Most people gave a mind of there own.
18 Aug 2018 12:54:18
Jred
It’s not what he says about Jose, it’s his negative comments that are used to beat people such as the manager. It suits some like yourself that he is making comments that suits some people’s agendas. I prefer Rio who I find eloquent and knowledgeable and how many of Rio’s comments can be used like Scholes have?
18 Aug 2018 13:15:38
Probably because all we get from the Liverpool dominated media is how the club is in ruins and do we really need one of our own, a club legend no less, adding to it. Especially when most of what has been said lately is total crap.
18 Aug 2018 14:07:08
Redman
It's not what he says about Jose it the negative comments that can be used to beat Jose. So it is about Jose.
He is a pundit who gives his honest view even if you don't like it it is probably what most think .
Still not sure what he has said that has so upset you mort Singh and a few others.
Or is because he hasn't agreed with you's?
18 Aug 2018 14:09:21
I wonder if people would of been upset when he made comments while moyes was in charge 🤣🤣.
18 Aug 2018 14:35:24
Depends. Saying it now with hindsight i'd agree. Saying it during the season it depends. Moyes was a massive mistake and should've never been appointed. But we gave him the chance till he proved he wasn't up to it. Pre Christmas I'd have said too soon, after Christmas i'd have agreed with it.
18 Aug 2018 14:51:09
Mort
So it's ok as long as you agree with it?
18 Aug 2018 15:18:38
Little dennis got out of the wrong side of the bed again this morning😂😂😂.
18 Aug 2018 15:27:36
Didn't say that. But you can't use moyes as a comparison. He was a failure and he was sacked for it. He was out of his depth. Its about time you accepted that and moved on.
18 Aug 2018 15:36:25
Ken yawn .
Still don't see why people are getting upset other than it's a slight criticism of Jose, and that tends to upset a few .
18 Aug 2018 16:04:07
Mort I have no probs with moyes being sacked it was a poor choice .
But would it of been ok for scholes to be a little bit negative about moyes?
I think the issue some gave is that scholes has disagreed with there point of view .
I still have no idea what you's are getting upset about.
18 Aug 2018 16:39:49
I don't think he said anything wrong but i don't enjoy him as a pundit. Rio and neville are the best 2 for me.
18 Aug 2018 16:44:39
Probably the same way you got upset when people were criticising your fav player.
Scholes can say whatever he likes anybody can.
No point getting upset or airiated when people don't agree.
If everyone thought the same then it would be a very boring place.
18 Aug 2018 17:30:40
Said it before, if everything was going well on the pitch, we wouldn't have to go looking for bogeymen in the media and fictional conspiracies, to make us feel a bit better.
18 Aug 2018 20:05:53
No Jred
It is the negativity that Scholes has brought to his punditry and it adds a problem to our club at a time when it doesn’t need it. It isn't one comment but his general attitude and slant.
18 Aug 2018 21:12:56
Moyes could probably have done without that negativity as well, at a time when everyone connected with the club should have been rallying round to help a new manager out. The hypocrisy on here is really something, sometimes.
19 Aug 2018 08:59:28
99
I would say it unbelievable but it's honestly not, it's just part for the course.
19 Aug 2018 09:02:54
Stevie
Moyes took us to 7th and that deserved criticism plus he could have had everyone behind him but it would have made no difference whatsoever, he wasn’t good enough by some distance.