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17 Aug 2018 12:42:37
Nice to see Scholesy deliver another two low blows, my favourite ever Utd player turning into a bitter bitter man because his best pal never got the Utd job, never thought i'd say that.

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17 Aug 2018 12:58:19
I ignore him when he speaks now, incredible player but a pundit on the level of Jamie Redknapp or Craig Bellamy.

17 Aug 2018 13:02:02
Or just speaking his mind.

17 Aug 2018 13:10:04
He is very annoying and it doesn't matter how great he was.

17 Aug 2018 13:21:07
I don't get what's wrong with what he says . he is saying what he sees and he might know a bit more than any of us on here.

17 Aug 2018 14:03:47
Could it be that maybe Scholes, the best midfielder, in 40 years might be telling the truth and some of you guys just don't like to hear it.
The guy is United through and through. He hates seeing City and Liverpool playing good football while we mess around defending with 11 players and creating two chances every match.
So maybe, just maybe, Scholes might be right?

17 Aug 2018 14:06:04
Scholes speaks like he used to tackle. Red card waiting to happen.

17 Aug 2018 14:08:15
To be fair they get a script to what they have to say so in the media so tehnically they say what they see and they instead of say what they are told to say in the media.

17 Aug 2018 14:20:20
Would people prefer if former players turned into cheerleaders? Like Merson, who presents rose tinted fantasy analysis of Arsenal.

Scholes says he wouldn’t be happy playing Jose’s brand of football. Of course he wouldn’t. Jose wouldn't play him because he is small and can’t tackle.

17 Aug 2018 14:32:00
Not like Fred is 5ft6 danny.

17 Aug 2018 15:00:19
My respect for Scholes has increased dramatically since he started talking truth. Wish more ex pros that are 'PAID' to speak their mind actually did speak their mind, rather than pandering to friendships, future job prospects or just parroting the official line from the club. Everyone has an agenda, but at least Scholes is prepared to call things as he sees them.

Utd have a vast PR Machine brainwashing sheep into thinking the world is against us and we are better than we are. When in truth most genuine football supporters of all clubs simply miss watching the Utd of old, because love us or hate us, we nearly always entertained and were good value for 90mins of your life. Nowadays it hurts some of us fans, and also the opposition fans to see what we have become. We need more of our ex players talking truth, or their truth if the problems are going to be solved - not being two faced.

17 Aug 2018 16:09:14
If Giggs was manager and not doing a good job would Scholes be this vocal then?

17 Aug 2018 16:19:06
Why is is whenever Scholes or Neville (both excellent pundits) say anything against Mourinho they are just bitter that Giggs never got the job. Yet when they said similar things about LvG they were clearly speaking the truth with passion and love for the club?

People's opinions on these guys changes daily to fit their own beliefs.

I love Jose, so clearly anyone who says he isn't the second coming of Jesus must be lying or bitter or reading a script. It's ridiculous.

How about we all accept that pundits are just people who have their own opinions. The only difference between them and us is they get paid to air their opinions. Sometimes we'll agree with them, sometimes we won't.

These guys are legends of our club, they have given blood sweat and tears for our club. Yeah, they were paid handsomely for it. But they have earned their right to have an opinion about the club they devoted their lives and careers to.

You don't have to agree with it, just respect that it's an opinion from someone who probably knows more about football than you and someone who probably knows more about our club than you. So it might be worth listening to. Still doesn't mean you have to agree with it. Just try not to slander our legends, they've done more for our club than any one of us has.

17 Aug 2018 16:26:59
He'd probably just make excuse after excuse up for him Mort.

17 Aug 2018 16:38:23
Mort - I'd like to think so, do you have any evidence that he wouldn't?

As Shappy says he is entitled to his opinion and I find myself agreeing with him more than I don't. Just like I find myself agreeing with certain posters more frequently than I do others. I do disagree slightly with Shappy's assertion that because somebody has played the game at the highest level it probably means they know more than somebody that hasn't. I'm looking forward to the insights or Jermaine Pennant now he has entered the Big Brother House lol! There are many ex-pros' whose opinion I can't stomach like Keown when talking about Utd and many of them have biases, it's natural, they are only human.

The ones that call a spade a spade are the ones I tend to agree with - even if it means harming their reputation with fickle fans. We are all supporters of Man Utd Football Club, Not the Man Utd Cult.

17 Aug 2018 16:43:03
BTW - sometimes on BBC, BT or Sky the camera gets to the pundits before they are ready, they are sometimes clearly ripping into certain things players/ managers are doing. However as soon as they realise they are live, they stop and revert to 'neutral, safety, typical' analysis, reluctant to publicly voice what they are paid to voice. Most are a waste of time, just like the press conferences and player interviews - occasionally you get somebody go off script and I like it.

But then that is blown out of proportion by the media and pathetic fans, which means the script gets tighter and we see less and less honesty from the supposed experts. Self censorship is a bitch, we should encourage raw honesty, even if we don't agree with it.

17 Aug 2018 16:43:35
Shappy you don't respect joses opinions and methods and he sure as hell knows a lot more about football than you. Is that a fair point? You keep telling us how wrong he always is but i'd say there is a fair chance he knows better than you unless you have a load of trophies won that your being very secretive about.

17 Aug 2018 17:33:14
Beast, in a post above, you've written you prefer pundits who call a spade a spade, and someone has "disagreed".
So there are obviously people on here who don't want to learn the truth and would rather amble along aimlessly thinking everything is bright and beautiful in the United world.
If someone of the experience of winning umpteen trophies at our club can't speak his mind, then God help our democratic society. Scholes knows what he's talking about. Just as Shearer and other pundits do. Scholes is not a biased pundit, if he sees something wrong, he'll point it out, just like his former manager, the great sir Alex, would have done.
Problem with Mourinho is he's avert to critiscm. He really believes he's right all the time, problem is, so did all the dictators in the history of this world. And he is definitely a dictator.

17 Aug 2018 18:44:44
Fair point Shappy. I will stop as soon as you shut up about Jose then. He has done more for the club than you so going by your own statement you need to shut your whinging.

17 Aug 2018 19:43:28
If it's not Scholes its Neville . I think Rio is the only one not to rip into the current set up so far . Jose will always have a reply for them (I don't think he is bothered) 😆😆.

17 Aug 2018 21:27:52
Shan and Ken, I agree Jose as manager has done more for our club than I have as a fan.

I have huge respect for Jose, I actually think he is a great manager. However, I don't think he is a great fit for our club.

Our clubs history, style and traditions are the polar opposite of Jose's. The only thing they have in common is they are winners.

That is where I fundamentally disagree with the appointment of Jose, I am not prepared to whore off our traditions and identity in order to win. If you are then fine. That's you. I don't see a point in winning unless we win the "United" way.

I don't slag off Jose's ability to get a result, I just fundamentally disagree with playing football that way. I'm a purist, Jose's a pragmatist. We're not going to see eye to eye.

Everyone is untitled to a point of view. I just think it's a sad state of affairs to slag off a player who played for our club for 20 years, who came out of retirement when we needed him just because we don't agree with his point of view.

17 Aug 2018 21:59:35
I bet you these players don't care about fans as much as you guys are care about them. You should support them but not don't look at them as they are some sort of god, players can also be wrong just like managers and fans.

17 Aug 2018 22:32:47
Singh, I'd love to know how old you are. Did you see Scholes in his prime between 99-09? He was phenomenal.

I agree that not all players should hold a special place in the hearts of fans.

Scholes however, is one of them. He grew up as part of the club from a young age. He sacked his agent when Inter Milan made an approach stating he didn't need an agent as he has no intention on leaving unless the club wanted him gone. He came out of retirement to help the club having played for the club for over 20 years. He is every bit a club legend.

I think it's a poor show to slag him off as bitter just because you don't agree with the opinion he has every right to.

17 Aug 2018 23:54:17
Singh, when you’re in a hole, stop digging mate. Scholes is United through and through. I don’t hero worship him I’m but he clearly cares about the club. He may say silly things but not because he has an agenda but because he believes them. For me, he can say what he wants.

18 Aug 2018 07:15:51
Now that shappy, is the best thing you have said for weeks.

Thanks for sharing Ken, way back at the top!

Scholes come across as a top guy who is voicing his true opinion. Agree or not, he is not a cardboard cutout and his voice deserves to be heard.

True club legend.







 

 

 
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