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06 Aug 2018 13:05:40
Bit of a strange one at the moment with Jose's comments and people seemingly turning against him based on a few dodgy performances with half a team out in pre season.

It seems from listening to Jose that he agrees with most of us on here, we need a centre back, a left back and a right winger, or at least 2 of these, and as it stands the club are failing to provide that. I think we all recognise that with for example Alderweireld and Pulisic in this team we suddenly look a hell of a different prospect, so we actually agree with Jose on my many things.

A lot of people seem to be slagging Jose off for being negative about the exact things they are also negative about, if Jose was writing on here about the squad I think he would be saying the same as the majority of people about where we are short. He is a winner and wants to win the league as do all of us and he recognises along with all of us that this squad is 2 or 3 players shorts of being able to challenge.

Let's hope we get these players in because I think there will be a huge turn on here into positivity and in turn Jose will feel the same way as us, that we then have a chance of challenging.

Over to you Ed.

{Ed025's Note - good post that GDS..

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06 Aug 2018 13:13:46
Hi GDS,
Fantastic post - fingers crossed we get at least 2 out of 3.

{Ed025's Note - even meatloaf would be happy with that KG.. :)

06 Aug 2018 13:18:25
Top post and a very sensible one.

06 Aug 2018 13:37:48
Tbf he got a winger (even though he's looked so much better up front in a two man partnership) in january.

And he got two centre backs in two seasons.

He hasn't come out and said why they aren't sufficient. He just wants the club to spend tonnes of money on older players.

The club are well within their rights to not trust jose considering he hasn't stayed longer at a club than three seasons and it is know he's not happy in manchester.

06 Aug 2018 13:48:15
Jose is a master at turning football matches into wars of attrition. He prefers warrior's to footballers. When it works he's a genius when it doesn't he's anti football and the enemy of the game.

He's a sticking plaster on an arterial bleed. His tenure was only ever going to be short term and he's not been given the tools to succeed. No point in moaning about it now we all knew what was coming when he was appointed.

In my opinion we should trust in the traditions of the Club and follow the model that has brought us a clear formula for success. We need a young, hungry manager that will promote and encourage youth. Has a philosophy and a commitment to playing entertaining, attractive and attacking football. We as fans also have a responsibility to show patience and restraint once someone delivers this philosophy even if success is not achieved instantaneously. I've heard a lot of posters say they'd rather us play attacking, caviller football even if we don't win but I'm always sceptical of these posts.

In my opinion more pressure must be applied to the board to demonstrate a commitment to ensure that the team challenges for the top honours and does not settle into a world where success on the field is LESS important than its success off it. The money is generated by the Club, its history, its tradition and its fans and not by the Glazers. They haven't invested a penny of their own money and let's not forget the massive debt they have saddled on the Club and the amount of money required to service it. As far as I'm concerned almost all of the money generated by the Club should be invested back into the team. Let's not kid ourselves the teams that spend the most money predominantly enjoy the most success. Of course there are exceptions to every rule but this is an inescapable fact. Liverpool with a stadium and turnover half the size have invested significantly more than us in this window. How can this be allowed to happen when our team is still in need of significant investment ourselves? Yes money can be wasted and often is by ALL Clubs but this a poor excuse for not spending it.

In my opinion the problem lies squarely with the Glazers and not the manager. Ok we might not like his style or his methods but I have absolutely no doubt that he wants us to WIN. I'm not sure the same can be said for our owners and the only place they seemingly want to win is on the stock exchange.

06 Aug 2018 13:42:57
"I am confident I will get one [new player], but I think two I am not going to get - which is not a drama,  in every pre-season it happens the same with every club which is the manager wants more. It's our nature, you always want more for your team but then club decisions are different and normally you don't get what you want which happened during all my career.

"So if I get one player until the end of the market, that's fine. "

Doesn't seem that bothered to me, this is real life not football manager .
It's the fans who want us to buy 6 first team players every summer for 500mil and then get upset when we don't.

06 Aug 2018 14:39:02
Dlib. Totally agree.
Gds, good post but you mentioned we need a centre back, a left back and a right winger, then you wrote "or at least two of these". Why? We are Manchester United, the most successful club financially. So why do we have to settle for 2 out 3? At the moment, we haven't got any of them. And that is irresponsible and unacceptable behaviour by our owners and the Woodward plonker.
But i don't think they give a toss. And that's the worrying part. I have had two season tickets since 1969, but i have not renewed them this year, i have passed them on to a friend. I love the club as much as i love my family, but with the present owners, I've lost my respect for the club and i shall not be lining their greedy pockets with any if my hard earned money.

06 Aug 2018 14:47:43
AAA,

I said at least 2 because I’m not sure if Jose is going to give Shaw and Young another season, Young never let's us down and this would be Shaw’s last chance. Also, just because we are Man United doesn’t mean teams will just sell to us. You’d be first to moan if we overpaid.

Shame you’ve felt the need to lose your season ticket, I’ll be there on Friday supporting the lads and I can’t wait, maybe I’m a mug but couldn’t dream of giving up my ticket, will be going through thick and thin as always, I hope you regrets you decision and I’m sure you hope you do as well.

06 Aug 2018 13:38:33
Nice pop culture reference there ed25.

I am, surprisingly, listening to Bat out of Hell as I type.

{Ed025's Note - good choice jonny..

06 Aug 2018 16:07:06
Did exactly the same AAA. Just had a son and feel my time and money is much better soent in him and not the club.

06 Aug 2018 11:44:34
Good post GDS2 and it puts matters into a different light.

People are disappointed with Jose for a number of reasons. For me (and most, I think), it's the style of play. It's almost as if he's on strike with the team setup because he isn't getting his way - which we've seen before. I do totally agree with the positions that we need to fill and RW has been a priority for a few years now. Hopefully he gets his way and things change.







 

 

 
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