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05 Aug 2018 20:54:07
I haven't seen any preseason matches and this is the first time I'm seeing us play. And I have to say wow, we are really bad. With nearly everyone improving their squads it's going to be a very long season.
I know it's only preseason and we have a lot of players missing but this team has no soul. Reminds me of the preseason Chelsea had when they just imploded.
We can't put 2 passes together if the other team is pressing and there is no supply for forwards. It's just sad to see this team.

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05 Aug 2018 21:27:30
Did we have a shot on target? I'm honestly asking because i can't recall us having a go to their keeper but hey don't say these things because according to a few here if you talk bad about the team you are being toxic. Oh and its only preseason, somehow they think we are going to play differently next friday. Its like we are going to change manager and miraculously start to play with intention to win. I said sonething similar last game against madrid, we were lucky we won because we didn't control the tempo, we didn't dominate but hey i'm toxic lol. It is going to be a long season indeed. Oh and i do want him out asap, the sooner the better, i still don't understand how this guy managed Real Madrid.

05 Aug 2018 21:30:52
No soul no heart no fight
And for the stat boys 0 shots on target, preseason or not it's looking bad, I mean the under 18s would put in a better performance
Sad is what I feel right now.

05 Aug 2018 21:45:10
The main problem I think is that there is no intention of pressing the other team. All players are afraid that they'll be caught out of position and just sit back. We reached their box twice in 90 minutes I think and when we lost the ball no one was trying to win it back, instead everyone started jogging back for defending.
I'm not on the Jose out brigade because I know even he can see what is happening and won't just let teams walk all over us in the league. But it definitely won't be fun to watch. Football has changed a lot and hopefully Mourinho will realize in time that he needs to change as well.

05 Aug 2018 21:46:47
We have no identity. And that goes beyond the manager. We're ran by an accountant who only cares as long as we're profitable your useless owners who have sucked over a billion pounds out of the club. I'm sure jred will point out what Jose has spent. But contrast that with what city have spent. Imagine the team we could have right now if they were prepared to spend properly.

05 Aug 2018 22:05:47
It is going to be a long, Long, LONG. Season.

05 Aug 2018 22:26:20
Mort I don't think u can blame the owners in terms of style and identity of the club. That's upto Jose who has always been defensive manager.

Nothing is wrong w/ United or Jose if city wouldn't have exceptional season then u guys might have won the league.

The problem is nowdays footy has changed lots of good team w/ better coaches and well organised teams compare to couple of yrs.

Jose always has played waiting game for opposition to do mistake where he takes full advantage of it. Like against us (LFC) but problem starts when opposition are happy to sit back like (sevilla) where he needs to attack them by pushing your defence 10-15 yard forward.

In recent yrs epl teams are happy to park the bus that's where Jose struggles because he plays deep instead and waits for their mistake instead of pressing/ penetrating them . That's nothing to do w/ owners or board.

05 Aug 2018 22:54:40
We've had no identity since Fergie left. He kept the plates spinning to cover the cracks. Moyes and van Gaal weren't attacking style managers either. Who appointed them? Who keeps buying players the managers don't ask for but sell lots of merchandise? A billion pounds taken out the club yet let's keep blaming the managers.

05 Aug 2018 23:47:21
Mort we had the same board under fergy .
You might not like it but it's thevmsnager that has changed .
If only we could of got a pep .

Bournemouth play better footy than us, would they like josecasctjere next manager?

05 Aug 2018 23:56:29
Mort
Imagine if Jose had all our players playing well
Compared to pep who you are still insisting is a fraud. 😅😅😅😅.

06 Aug 2018 00:08:00
Well, well, well, what do you know? I'm sure it's Pogba's fault eh Leahy12?

Mort, thus is what I have been screaming at you guys for and many are still blind to it. BTW, the accountant doesn't set the playing parameters, the drills, the style, the football identity. I'd care less about him and focus on the real culprit but oh no! We would rather attack a World Cup winner and a CEO instead of the manager over the football style.

Nice input Kopitef, I couldn't have said it better.


Those saying we don't have an identity because of lack of players Mourinho wants I tell you that regardless of the team Guardiola, Klopp or LVG manage (even a championship team), you see an identity, an intent on playing style and also ubiquity towards the dynamism of the game.


LVG, had a worse team, much worse but we still had an identity, an intent, a certain way of playing. You knew we would play shirt incisive passes, sideways, that we'll dominate possession etc.


As Ed002 explained the toxic pushed out a carefully orchestrated transition by the club and here we are. Still the toxic haven't learnt - blaming everyone else but the perpetrator.


On a final note, with all we know, is it surprising that the two most creative, talented and entertaining players want to leave the team?

Is it so difficult to understand the problem?


Bring Kroos, SMS, Aldeweireld and Willian, Mourinho will still find a boring negative way to play and he'll have the whole world to blame but himself.


But as a lifelong supporter, I'll always be behind the manager regardless of who it is!

06 Aug 2018 01:02:11
Was pogba playing yaz.
You blame the manager but your behind him.
I'm not beh8nd the manager I don't sit on the fence.
Jred do you have a thing for pep.
And yaz I didn't mention pogbas name in my post, but you seem to keep bringing him up are you a fan boy of pauls.

06 Aug 2018 05:27:10
Well, you seemed to indicate everything is Pogba's fault because he "didn't knuckle down enough for us like he did France"

I tried to explain it to you that when a player has strengths and qualities, the manager tries to make a system that will be in tandem with that. Not put players out of position in an unsuitable system.


Pogba played better for France because his coach gave him a role that suited him not ask him to play defensively in a two-man midfield, end of.


I'm behind the manager doesn't mean I agree with his system or style but it means I'll reluctantly accept his position in the club, won't be toxic, hope for improvements and you won't catch me with a #managerout.


Yes I'm a Pogba "fan boy" because in as much as I love Manchester United, I'm a football lover first, a sort of purist and nothing makes my day like beautiful football. Enthralling, mesmerising football. That's why I don't want us to let go of our flair players - Pogba and Martial are the two first teamers guaranteed to have you on the edge of your seat in excitement and what do we do? Wish for them to be pushed out of the door by a manager not willing to take risks, by a manager that will probably leave in a year and we'll be back to square one trying to get flair players for a new manager.


It sucks innit?

06 Aug 2018 09:35:12
Would be the same board that was penny pinching under Fergie with no value in the market.







 

 

 
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