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30 Jul 2018 10:49:44
People are complaining about Willian not being good enough, yet Barcelona were after him and now allegedly Real Madrid are also after him. I guess he must have something worth buying then.

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30 Jul 2018 12:29:14
Then why on earth would Chelsea be happy to sell him? Especially when you consider that there is a good chance they could lose Hazard to Real Madrid this summer as well.

He has been at Chelsea for 4 years, and has had one great season the year Jose got fired.

I. The other three seasons he has been sporadically good. He has pace and plays very direct. He works well against teams that set up certain way. He is also an exceptionally hard worker, chasing down all balls and doing a lot of leg work for his team. So even when he doesn't play well he still contributes from a defensive point of view.

I would expect that both Barcelona and Real Madrid would have looked at him as a solid squad player. Although it has only been reported that they are interested and nothing has been substantiated with Madrid's interest.

Barcelona thought he was too expensive and went for Malcom instead.

I would be fine with Willian for anywhere between 30-40m.

I don't see the value in signing a 30 year old player who's best attribute is hard work for more than 40m.

Jose's main interest in him is he is a player who does what Jose wants without question. Which might be nothing of it might be an attempt to cling onto the power in the dressing room. Which is a worrying sign if true.

30 Jul 2018 12:36:54
If those clubs really wanted him they could get him.

Nothing would surprise me anymore, maybe little favours between clubs to help drive an auction, it costs nothing to have your PR team create something out of thin air - who knows what goes on in the dark halls of power. The way we seem to pay a 30%+ premium on every signing makes me think Woody isn't part of the ITK club.

Willian will improve us, but by nowhere near enough for the money being talked about.

Barcelona and Madrid have not exactly been too astute in recent years with their signings either to be fair - so it could just be a case that the three clubs are a bit behind others with their transfer nouse at the moment.

30 Jul 2018 13:24:01
Willian wants to join up with Jose he has openly stated that 😆😆.

30 Jul 2018 14:59:38
Is willian a better option than what we have?
I think so. But if you took steve Coppell out of retirement he would also be Betsy than what we have on the right currently.

30 Jul 2018 15:29:09

Don't say that too loud, Jose will be trying to put a bid in.

30 Jul 2018 15:50:03
I don't get all the drama and negativity to be honest GDS
2nd place last season despite all the media attention liverpool disimproved results wise in the league so did spurs so did Chelsea so did arsenal.
Only city and iurselves improved results wise.
With a few key additions i think we can compete to win the league. Like jose i don't think we can win without additions but he will keep us competitive regardless of if he gets new players or not. But it won't be pretty.

30 Jul 2018 15:59:41
Did we ever look like the 2nd best team in the league last season?

30 Jul 2018 16:11:00
Yer imo we did
city looked very good all the rest inconsistent.
The scouse improved through out the season and concentrated on the CL towards the end .
Chelsea average arsenal poor? Spurs so so
But 86 points and 2nd tells it's own story .

30 Jul 2018 16:50:09
Yet we finished 2nd. Even with what is in my opinion a poor squad and a poor 1st 11 in at least 4 positions.
The manager found a way for this squad to compete results wise.
Its dire to watch but with some of the players we have i don't expect any better. The few really high class players we have pogba sanchez matic ( in his role) lukaku have not got the quality around them in order to naximise their ability and strengths imo.
Lukaku has no service from wide where he used to feed off coleman and baines.
Pogba looked great when his partners controlled the tempo and had high energy pirlo and vidal. Nobody in our squad has been complimenting him like that.
Sanchez has no runners off him like he did while shining at Barcelona and arsenal. With static midfielders and full backs. Has little or no through balls into his runs either.
Some of that can be coached of course but you can't turn valencia or youmg into coleman or herrera into pirlo or scholes or de bruyne.

For me this summer it would have been
Kroos and another for midfield keep pogba and . Kroos and fred would be ideal for me. Leaving 3 places every match day between matic fred pogba kroos fellaini herrera jessie.

I would have signed 2 full backs. Sandro or max for left and dalot lioks an exciting prospectfor rb. Keep young and tony v

Cb was the least urgent imo but i think for bailley to thrive a good experienced leader alongside him imo would bring him on a lot. Toby is the obvious outstanding candidate.

Rw my primary targets would have have been koman or demble.

I think our style would improve with 2 leper full backs alone. We have zero width zero overlapping. Easy to box sanzhes martial mata jessie whoever, in if nobody runs past them.

We have spent big money no doubt about that. But paid way way way over the top for shaw martial and crazy fees for lukaku lindelof and pogba in particular. i'm pretty sure the manager does not negotiate price but because we overpaid for some players i stress not the managers fault we have not been ssme to address the weaknesses tjat obviously still exist.

For all the people that want a change of manager. Who would you like.
Lets say pep we all admirer the football he plays.
Or poch i think most admire the way spurs play.
Or zidane. Most admire his achievements at madrid.
If any of tbose came in could they apply their football with our squad.
Could they turn valencia into a walker trippier or carvajhal? Could they turn young into a marcello davis or mendy?
Or herrera or fellaini into a modric kroos or de bruyne?

No they would come in and want to replace those players for those more capable. Depite what has been spent.

30 Jul 2018 17:09:48
Ken shame your not manager and we are stuck with Jose.

30 Jul 2018 18:04:24
Well its a good job your not.

30 Jul 2018 18:16:15
Ken lol it's that simple .
Great come back by the way.

30 Jul 2018 19:17:08
Its not that simple at all jred. But that's what i would look to do with our squad.
Its all the areas ed002 said we wanted to address too.
Everybody has their fav players i think getting the blend right is important.
The manager knows where we are weak he just doesn't have the funds available to get them all done. Or he wants a couple too many in tje higher age bracket so its not easy at all. Plus nobody wants the players he wants to sell so its far from ideal from a trading point of view.



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