29 Jul 2018 11:46:06
Some people are under some misconception that sacking a manager every couple of years is bad, even if that manager has not performed to the level required. Ask yourselves these questions if you are against sacking a manager as it creates instability:
What is there left to disrupt?
Why does Jose deserve our unreserved loyalty?
What has Jose done for the fans?
Will you be surprised if we have a good season (I will and so will 99% of honest football watchers)?
Make the change, get rid of the rotten apple and hopefully make the correct appointment next time - if after 1 year the trajectory doesn't look promising, do it again. Keep going, it's a transient business now, no room for tolerating less than great.
Works for Madrid doesn't it! Works for City, arguments can be made that it works for many other elite clubs.
Just because in the 80's SAF started poorly in circumstances that are far removed to the Utd of today, some fans seem to think we could be sacking the next SAF, or we lose more of our crumbing identity by being impatient. They lose all sense of percentages and fail to realise that over the past 30 years loyalty/ honour are things that have diminished rapidly in the game and society - everything is short term so we need to adapt our thinking. My advice is stop giving respect until it's earned. Mourinho and Woodward do not deserve our respect, our club is a mess anybody can see it. Changes need to happen, plodding along as it is, is just driving the knife in deeper and creating more of a mess for the next guy.
Until the toxics come back in full force we will be making the mountain climb back to the summit ever steeper! We have a bad-un, cut the chord before next weekend and we have a chance of making this season a success rather than a fiasco.
29 Jul 2018 12:00:46
Barcelona Madrid Munich juve all regular change there manager.
29 Jul 2018 12:03:45
He's a disgrace, just spends his time moaning instead of making the most of what he's got. Look at Poch, saying not everything hinges on transfer, he's content to settle with less than desired. The nail in the coffin was Klopp saying ""Do I get the sack if not? Depends on the football we play. A big part of the job is to play football that our people like. " Feels like a direct jibe at Mourinho and he's right.
29 Jul 2018 12:14:56
I'm not a fan of his beast but it has to run its course we shouldn't fire him on what we suspect will happen it has to actually happen. You can't fire him for being second, I dislike the style as much as you and suspect there's going to be better teams than us this season and if that's the case and we are dull and not in the race then I wouldn't wait too long to change but second earned him another shot . I hope we play better and he's a success and don't tolerate it if that's not the case, it's his third season it's now fair to judge him on results and style .
29 Jul 2018 12:21:31
At the minute I can't work out whether 1. Jose wants to still be a at our club, 2. Whether he is trying to get sacked by the club with his comments about players and lack of transfers, 3. Whether he is on the verge of quitting.
I have always been a supporter of Mourinho and thought this could be the year it clicks. Just his demeanor and constant comments (latest martial not returning to America! ) make me think its not going to.
I'm still hoping once back with first teamers it will all improve.
{Ed025's Note - it wont mate..
29 Jul 2018 12:22:04
We need a DOF. It will enable us to take some direction off of the pitch which Woody just does not give.
{Ed025's Note - its the director of misery thats the problem pog..
29 Jul 2018 12:24:53
It’s ironic that the toxic fans have resulted in us having a toxic manager.
Only in football would this behaviour be accepted, any other profession the manager would be sacked for the attitude shown by Jose.
I’ve never once called for a united manager to be sacked but enough is enough now. Poor signings, publicly calling out his superiors and working staff and failure to motivate his team. We fans can never truly understand what is going on behind the scenes but Jose is doing his best to let us all know that he has no interest in being here.
29 Jul 2018 12:53:39
Add Chelsea to the list. Look how many Managers they have had in he last 10 years and they have outperformed us.
29 Jul 2018 13:03:58
"It’s ironic that the toxic fans have resulted in us having a toxic manager. "
"I’ve never once called for a united manager to be sacked but enough is enough now. "
Let them words sink in.
29 Jul 2018 16:46:41
FFS. I despair.
29 Jul 2018 16:52:54
Toxics of the world unite!
I was an optimist. Mourinho cured me of that towards the end of last season when I returned to watching footie in the local park. I contemplated trying afresh this season only to find Jose busy making sure I don't have a relapse. I just don't see how he expects to motivate the players at United, attract others or endear himself to supporters. United will not make second and will struggle to make top 4 imo.