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01 Jul 2018 14:17:09
Giggs did not have the credentials or experience to manage the club, but I wish the club had listened to him regarding signing. Giggs recommended that the club sign Gabriel Jesus and killian Mbappe. Aledgedly both could have been signed for under £5m. But why bother with that when you can sign Memphis, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger etc instead for massive fees and massive wages.

Hopefully he does well with wales then gets some club football management under his belt and comes home. At least he knows what playing for Utd means and what playing the utd way means.

I would rather we stopped throwing good money after bad just to sign big name players who don't really want to be at the club. Di Maria anybody? Played by Ramos, griezmann, bale, ronaldo and anybody else that needs a renewal.

It's funny the club bangs on about history, tradition etc but ignores a man who knows a thing or two about football, the club and winning things. Step up Sir Bobby. He said Jose was not right for the club and was right. I would love to hear Sir Alex's view of Jose continually throwing his players under the bus. Keep it behind closed doors Jose. Haven't you lost enough dressing rooms over the years.

I hope Jose proves me wrong, but I put a lot of credence in Ed002's info and views. He said LVG would end badly and was right, he said it was too early for Memphis and was right and he said Jose was a bad fit and did not really want to be here. I suspect he is right here to. I hope for humble pie, but suspect that I will end up with another season of defensive football and players been dissed by their own manager.

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01 Jul 2018 15:20:38
Id like to see giggs ultimately get the job just to shut up the rest of the class of 92 an stop them constantly sniping at the club. Wonder how much they'd criticise giggs when it inevitably goes pear shaped.

01 Jul 2018 15:55:18
Great for kylian mbappe and gabriel jesus careers that we didn't sign them. They will develop and become better players at their current clubs than they ever would at old trafford at the moment.

Imagine kylian mbappe having a really good season up until january then we signed mario mandzukic/ marko arnautovic to completely stunt his progression like we did with sanchez to martial.

Tbh If they didn't run around like headless chickens for 90 mins most people on here would call them lazy like they do with martial.

01 Jul 2018 16:09:51
Got to agree with everything you have said DSG.

01 Jul 2018 16:09:55
Giggs can't be trusted I'm afraid.

01 Jul 2018 14:28:45
Ed002 is the best looking most knowledgable person I have ever come across in football. Not only does he have great insight to football clubs, but has incredible foresight when it comes to how things will go down.

It's too rare a thing, but we should be touching ed002 gently at every chance. This site is at its best when that knowledge is shared.

Good time to say thanks given the above post.

01 Jul 2018 17:36:00
Only with your wife or girlfriend beast.

01 Jul 2018 17:24:07
Do we have to touch him, can we not just ask polite questions?

01 Jul 2018 17:39:03
Don’t forget is excellent yet eclectic taste in music.

01 Jul 2018 18:10:48
Don’t understand the clamour for Giggs. Don’t think he is going to make a particularly good manager. I’m all for promoting from within but only if that person has the ability to do so.

DSG - spot on about mbappe and Jesus.

01 Jul 2018 18:24:39
Giggs was spouting bs, before mbappe even made it to the Monaco team city offered 40mn for him and were rejected, why would they agree to sell for 5mn and then reject a 40mn bid.

01 Jul 2018 18:41:22
To be fair, Park, 'clamour' might be a bit strong, mate.

01 Jul 2018 22:28:31
Sorry, I didn't realise the airwaves were full of people calling for Giggs as manager. I must have missed the mass rallies as well. I stand corrected, there is a clamour.

01 Jul 2018 23:52:00
Stevie, clamour perhaps is a tad dramatic I agree. But there are still calls for him to be manager, especially from the class of 92. Think it’s ridiculous tbh. Needed to drop into the championship and earn his stripes. Loved him as a player but it’s a no from me as a manager. Happy to be proved wrong though.

02 Jul 2018 11:32:29
I've never seen the need for the whole, drop into the championship and earn your stripes, mate. Working with youth teams at the club, yes, as you can see how it's benefited Southgate working with the current crop of England players since they were in the u21s. But in reality, what use is managing a team in a lower league in terms of preparing you for a job at a major club? It's like day and night. When you think of what Giggs, only as an example, must have learnt in all his years at Utd under Fergie. I think earning his crust in the u21s would be more beneficial, so he's still around the club for a start - being groomed, if you like. If he can't get the job after working with the underage group and going through an interview process, then fair enough, but these guys aren't miracle workers. They're not necessarily going to be able to go to Rochdale, and start winning things, for all sorts of possible reasons, but would that really mean they wouldn't succeed at a club with so many more advantages?

02 Jul 2018 12:51:14
Would anyone consider Southgate?

02 Jul 2018 13:10:15
International management is completely different gravy to club football. Southgate didn’t particularly set the work alight whilst at middlesborough. He’s done well for england in both the u21s and first team but that doesn’t mean he would be able to take over at any of the top 6 clubs, or even a top 10 premier league club for that matter.

I often think of the two main examples of promoting from within - pep and zidane. Let’s be honest, does anybody truly believe that Giggs would have had a similar impact to those two? We are nowhere near either of those sides in terms of squad quality. Add to the fact we have a more competitive league and then you have a huge task on your hands. Handling egos, pressure from fans to play the United way and also the negativity from the press all come with the United job. Yes Giggs has watched and perhaps learnt from sir alex, but just because you watch somebody do something doesn’t mean you can do it. It takes practice and experience to perfect it. You learn from your failings and become better for it. Giggs dropping down to a smaller club of course is different to united. But he will learn so much more and be far more equipped to lead united that way than if he was given the job straightaway.

I agree that Giggs understands and loves the club. They are two massive positives. Add that he would probably have the respect of the players. But it’s far too much of a risk to make. I hope he has a good career but it is important for me that a manager has earned his stripes. I do admire both Lampard and Gerrard for stepping out their comfort zones and really testing themselves. Their reputations have most definitely helped in securing those roles. But if they are successful they will be much more equipped to takeover at Liverpool or Chelsea in the future if those opportunities arise.

{Ed007's Note - Come on, Southgate has masterminded stunning victories against Tunisia and Panama, after that and grabbing an injury time draw against minnows Scotland winning the PL and CL for Utd would be a doddle for him.}



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