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08 Jun 2018 13:20:54
Ken, thanks for not riding to my childish bait last night, I’m blaming the wine.

In terms of Rashford, he is still a kid, but a kid with huge potential. Southgate summed it up for me “he looked like he was enjoying himself”. In the last few months of the season he really didn’t look like he was enjoying himself so we do need to consider why. Is it the position he is being asked to play, is it the players around him, is it the system, does he feel more pressure at United than he does when playing for England?

I have no idea but I still hold he is a special talent that needs nurturing. Beast made a good point that he can be inconsistent and maybe Jose feels he doesn’t have time to persevere with him but I would hate to see him loaned or sold, as some have advocated.

I realise it was only 1 game last night but I think he will light us up in Russia. He is quick, tall, great feet, and by all accounts a good kid whose feet are firmly on the ground. He’s also ours, local boy, home grown and I’m desperate to see him succeed.

I think we are heavy up front and there are other areas in need of strengthening so hopefully he gets plenty of chances again next year.

As for your question about looking forward to next season, I’m not really sure. I think I needed a rest from it and the World Cup will be a welcome distraction. I’m sure by the time the season statists I will be up for it, and I guarantee a majority of posters will have us winning the league again!

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08 Jun 2018 15:36:01
I remember in the 2016 FA cup final Rashford played with the enthusiasm, tenacity and swagger that he did last night. That was for United on the biggest stage, we've vastly invested in the squad since and the overall playing style was piss poor. We had an egotistical bonehead of the manager, but that egotistical bonehead told young players to go out and enjoy themselves.

08 Jun 2018 15:26:42
Couldn't agree more Tony. We are lacking players who get you out of your seat - despite what we have spent - and I think Rashford is capable of producing magical moments (e. g. against Liverpool and last night for England) .

I was at the game last night. Rashford was the best player on the pitch. Every time he got on the ball you felt the expectation from the crowd. For me he has to start in Russia.

08 Jun 2018 16:27:38
If Rashford doesn't start it makes a mockery of all the 'playing for places' talk you hear all the time - I have my suspicions about what will happen but as I don't want to be negative today I'll give Southgate the benefit of the doubt. lol.

08 Jun 2018 16:33:31
ajh i am with you on rashford. I really like him and would take him over martial anytime. Or indeed most of the top young players.
The fact is that you are so against our current manager that even after 12 mins you were using a meaningless international to highlight that rash plays better for England than he does for us. That is simply not true but the bias you have makes you believe it is.
I was the same with rooney in his final few seasons just seeing him annoyed me and its easy to pick the negatives In everything.
You once scolded me for being repetitive. Well can i ask you to look back and read your posts for last 2 months and see if you think you have been repetitive. No point having a go at people them doing the same yourself.
I have not engaged with you as there is no point on the jose topic. Because you have your view we read it daily often twice or 3 times per day. You have your views i agree with some of your points but not them all. I can't wait for next season. Jose will prove you wrong i have no doubt about that.
He is the manager he is a bloody good manager and has forgotten more about football management than you or i will ever know.
You have an opinion but that's all it is your entitled to air it even air it 3 times a day if you must but it does not mean your right.
Is rash looking to leave. no
So i assume from that that he is happier with his situation than you are. i'd say he knows better wouldn't you?

08 Jun 2018 16:52:47
Ken perhaps it could be the hot weather getting to some people’s head?

08 Jun 2018 17:01:56
But ken he is A good defensive manager, I can't see him changing his ways next season, hope I'm wrong and he let's the team go forward more. Sometimes to get the best out of a forward player you have to let him play with a bit more freedom.
Have your energy for forward play not defending.

08 Jun 2018 17:54:58
Top post ken.

08 Jun 2018 18:14:25
Leahy you are right the forwards are not currently being given licence to express themselves, nor have the shackles been removed. But I’m sure Jose knows we haven’t scored enough goals or been ruthless enough. We seem to be making the right sorts of signings and not the ‘big’ name galactico type signings. I do believe we will be my better next season.

We may never see the sort of football that our club was built on. But I still think we will be entertained, but in a more pragmatic way. I can’t wait till next season and am confident we will improve again and challenge for the title. I feel sometimes myself and other supporters, who are generally more positive, get shut down if we aren’t following the other view. We all want the best for united but it seems Jose is to blame for everything. I agree with a lot of the points made by yourself and other posters, but Jose is going nowhere for at least a year so it’s time to back him.

08 Jun 2018 18:16:29
I hear you meahy the style was poor but we need pace and energy in midfield and in the fb positions. A leader at the back annd he is trying to afdress that. His teams usually score plenty and win plenty. Hazzard won footballer of year under jose ronaldo won balond dor unfer him do you remember di maria duff robben higuain deco chasing back all the time. Cole zanetti marcelo all over lapping full backs.
Ive no issue parking bus 3 or 4 games a year that's good management in certain games and situations but tgis season was shocking.
I blame players 80% manager 20%.
With 3 or 4 new 1st team starters we will be a better team to watch no doubt.
Jose inherited a complete shambles of a squad despite what was spent.
Some of jose's spend has not worked out but some have and a couple can still work out great once they have a better and different balance to the team.
Jose will always but wining begore style. But his teams usually score plenty over a season. He knows what he needs if he gets wjat he needs player wise this summer then you will see better football. Might not be brazil 1970 but things will be much better than this season.
You can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear. We have too many sow's ears.
I despise some jose traits but greatly admire others he has. Nobody is perfect but given the size of the task i think he is ahead of schedule. He has the balls the desire and the ecperience to succeed here. I hope and think he will. If he doesn't it will be good luck jose long live the new king.

08 Jun 2018 18:17:45
Lol Beast "as I don't want to be negative today". Erm, are we ignoring all your other posts today?

08 Jun 2018 19:10:00
Our defence doesn't nt think the manager trusts the defence, how many times have we seen rashford around left back right back defending, I don't mind that if the forward losses the ball then chase back.
Last night with England I'm sure the manager said rash, take on the defence run at them enjoy it.
You don't need to be at the back.

08 Jun 2018 19:14:54
Well, I’ve checked my posts and they are not at all repetitive. The Jose debate, like the Rooney debate previously got tiresome for everyone and I moved on. Admittedly I may have let Monsiour Merlot influence me last night (😳) but generally I’m steering clear of the Jose in or out debate.

08 Jun 2018 19:19:14
And what if Jose doesn't buy the players YOU think we need?

Read time and again Jose needs full backs. But it doesn't seem Jose agrees he pick Tony and young week after week, in fact tony is his captain.
I keep reading smalling is awful but he is Jose first choice cb .
We have to sell fellaini Jose wants him .
Martial is that or the other, we have offered him a new contract .

So Jose is wrong to play smalling wrong to play Tony wrong to play young wrong to play fellaini wrong to play smalling .
Seems the people constantly sticking up for the manager are his biggest critics.

08 Jun 2018 19:28:06
Can anyone remember when all LVG needed to play good footy was strootman?
Was never his fault, it couldn't possible be a case of "That's how off sets his teams up "

Once over all we needed was a cm player all we needed was pogba?
Then all we needed was a cb we bought lindelof and bailly .
Then we needed that magic up top, we will play great footy then so we bought Sanchez.

Now it's full backs?

2nd in the league is good this season only a very very good city team beat us . Well done Jose he is doing what he does . 81 points is a good return dropped stupid points against the bottom teams other wise it would of been even better.
But it is Jose doing what Jose does just like it was lvg doing what lvg does.

08 Jun 2018 19:36:06
Personally I’d tell Martial he’s battling with Lukaku for the striker role, use Rashford more on the flanks, and invest the money heavily on our right hand side instead.

Then still short of LB, CB, and maybe another mid. Emerge Can in a free replaces Fellaini more than effectively.

08 Jun 2018 20:06:25
Jred if you cannot see how much 2 quality full backs and a cm will improve or style of play and quality as a team then there is no point having this discussion. Nobody expects Jose to change his tried and tested method which has served him well in winning numerous trophies. All his previous teams were built on a strong defence, dynamic midfield, two skilful and tricky wingers and a strong target man to hold up the ball. We have a very weak defence, no rw and we are lacking in midfield. Why is it so outrageous to think that if we improve in those areas then we will improve both style and substance?

This summer I expect him to finally have the team he needs to succeed. There will be no excuses for not performing and competing for the big honours. Nor will it be acceptable to play the rubbish style that we have served up this year. Even those are support Jose for another year (like myself) can clearly see the problems and we have highlighted them. We don’t blindly support Jose because he has done plenty of things that have rightly been criticised. But we can also see that we are building something, albeit slowly.

08 Jun 2018 20:30:38
Jred to be fair he has no other choice only play them,
For me the whole back line isn't good enough and the team is suffering for it, we sit 2 holding players to protect them and the forward players are back helping out as well.

08 Jun 2018 20:56:17
Of course he has Leahy he could of bought last summer, he could of bought in the winter.

I don't pick the team Jose does your issues is with him.
He plays and picks the full backs, to the point he made Tony captain.
Why would make a player captain if 1 . You didn't rate him 2 didn't intend to play him the majority of games .
Cb smalling is clearly our first choice cb YOU think it should be bailly, Jose doesn't. Again your issue is with him.
We are short in cm? Really Herrera was last season player of the year, pogba cost a WR price, matic is Jose through and through .
He rates and likes fellaini even if many fans don't.

We need a rw? Does joes think that or you? Which right wingers did we try to buy last summer or exams.
We have had a very clear tactic of playing a playmaker on the rw who comes inside not a rw .
Jose was asked about pereria a few month and he said " it's not ideal he is playing rw which isn't a position we have "

So does Jose want a rw or YOU?

Maybe Jose is setting the team and tactics up how he wants?

When he won the title with Chelsea he had 6 more points and scored 5 more goals than this season . So maybe par for the course.

08 Jun 2018 21:32:12
What about baily and lindoff.

08 Jun 2018 22:09:39
Jose does jred he just bought 1.

08 Jun 2018 22:33:48
He bought 1 what Ken?
Do u mean dalot? I would of thought has come in to play understood to Tony or young
Or Fred who has come in to replace Carrick who I missed of my list?



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