24 May 2018 11:38:10
Think significant mistakes were committed 09-13.
1. Investments were not at Citys level. Tevez, Ronaldo left and our signings post that read Obertan, valencia ( not a world beater but a consistent performer), a past it owen, Powell, Bebe
City were raiding balotelli, silva, toure, Aguero, De jong.
We needed to fix the central midfield and wing position. We failed. We needed at least one ready made world class centre back to take over rio and vida, we kept our faith in Smalling and jones. Dissapoitment.
2. The appointment of Moyes.
After Sir alex stepped down we should have appointed A manager with much stronger credentials . Jose would have made sense then. 2013-2014 season ripped the soul of the club. It set a precedence. The fear factor slowly diminished.
3. Van gaal was stop gap. I still think he should have tried his best to keep the likes of Welbz, Rafael, Chicarito, Evans who. could be useful squad players.
During sir alex tenure we had park, o shea, fletch who played the role.
My point is the problem started way back with no clear long term plan who should replace Sir Alex and little investment pre. 2013.
Should we now call for Jose to be sack?
If he goes who takes over? Giggsy?
Blanc? Carlos Quiroz? Poch?
My personal view would be back him for 2 more seasons with transfers in out. Let him do his job. by then he would have 4 seasons.
Would love to hear other reds opinion.
24 May 2018 12:40:01
Good post mate. Agree with the lack of investment over the years I remember us crying out for a midfielder in fergie’s era with Dembele being someone we should have snapped up when he left Fulham. We were linked to the likes of defour, strootman and others but never sorted out the midfield. Shows how sir alex did such an incredible job of winning the league with a poor team.
Moyes was a disaster plain and simple. Should never ever have been considered and him sacking the back room staff sealed his fate. He undid 25 years of work in the space of 7 months. Awful awful appointment which set us back years. Then LVG was in theory a safe appointment but didn’t pan out well. We have thrown money at clubs by overpaying for average players who don’t have the mentality to play for us. There has been no plan or cohesion in the transfer policy. No direction in where the club needs to be. We have Woodward who although is a great negotiator, seems to be the sort of person who wants to make a statement signing which sells shirts instead of one that improves the team.
Now we appoint Jose. Personally he should have been considered after sir alex left. Would have been the perfect time. He is a great manager, one of the best, but that does not necessarily translate to a successful or appropriate fit for us and him. An air of marriage of convenience is evident. However, all things said and done, the improvement statistically is plain to see. He’s attracting quality players and we are back in the champions league for a second season in a row for the first time in years. Style is very poor and his man management is not working with certain players. He needs to improve there. But he deserves another year to sustain a challenge and if it is going poorly then he should leave. I don’t buy into the notion he will leave a mess at united. He inherited a huge mess but he will leave a very talented squad for the next manager to enjoy the fruition. Back him for another year but plan accordingly.
The board need to take a leaf out of arsenal’s Book and admire the way they have stuck to their values and traditions as a football club. They play a beautiful brand of football and have appointed a manager who will carry this on. United must respect our traditions and it should dictate how we run the club and who we appoint. If the board can do that then I feel things will improve. Personally I am looking forward to next season and I expect to see improvements.
24 May 2018 12:42:01
Roses
Am guessing you are new so welcome. I recognise and and have flagged those very issues time and time again so agree with you.
However you will now be answered with the can’t blame that, blame Jose he spent money argument. Enjoy and stick to what you said because it is where we are.
I would give Jose next season and see where we are.
24 May 2018 13:12:03
I still say the best thing we could do is bring in a DoF.
24 May 2018 13:20:43
Hi red. man. I am from. Singapore. Started. supprting united in 85.whiteside moran final. Never been to old trafford but watched the reds here in Singapore in 2001 with ruud veron in e team. got interviewed by mutv. good day all around.
Love the stone roses and the smiths ad well.
24 May 2018 18:12:20
I'm OK with smalling and Jones being expected to be our long term centre backs. We bought them at 19 and 20 yrs old (ish) and they were supposed to be our centre back partnership for years to come. I like the idea of buying to young kids full of potential and nurturing them together to be the spine of our club for the next decade. Sadly, it hasn't worked out. But I'm OK that we gave it a good shot.
24 May 2018 20:15:16
Hi United Roses
Keep on posting your opinion and don’t be put off. There are a lot of good posters on here so add your contribution
I am from Manchester, started supporting in 68 and I was stood on the Wembley terraces in the 85 cup final, a great day.