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20 May 2018 13:52:30
How many times do people say we want to see a team that plays the United way? Well, let's analyze this.

Since the 1998/ 9 treble winning year when we scraped by Bayern Munich having created nothing for 90 minutes, what has playing the United way accomplished outside domestic tournaments? One more champions league cup for which we needed a John Terry slip to win? Hardly emphatic. Since then playing the United way has been shown to be no match for playing the Barcelona way. In fact, as far as Europe is concerned, playing the United way has been largely unsuccessful when compared to playing, say, the Liverpool way.

In the league, we had one year 1999/ 2000 when we scored 97 goals, but other than that the most we have scored is 87 when we were 3rd. We actually won the title in 2008/ 9 scoring 68 goals, the same as we did this year. Half a dozen more goals at opportune times this year and we could have been 10 points better off and still have been a distant second to City, who scored 105 goals and achieved 100 points, both records, not playing the United way.

When supporters say they want to see us playing the United way I have to say why? The United way is passé and has shown itself to be second best on the international stage, geared mainly to slog it out through the bleak winter months of the English premier league. It's a fantasy. What we need is something else, a new United way.

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20 May 2018 14:09:51
Go and watch Ronaldo Rooney scholes Beckham etc etc it was a great watch .

20 May 2018 14:25:11
Shaw utd way means attacking football and giving youngsters a chance, it isn't the fergie way or the Busby way. Tactics differ from manager to manager but the intent to score goals and actually try and win matches should remain the same, that for me is the utd way, also what the way outside cl achieved is 7 premier league titles, is that now supposed to be nothing now?

20 May 2018 14:26:58
Couldn't care less about the "United Way" or the "Sir Alex Years" anymore. I think the majority of us want to look forward to watching the game, thinking we'll play a slither of attacking football at the least.

Not just watch it because it's on, then be bored senseless after.

20 May 2018 14:33:54
We were fantastic in that CL campaign up to the final, we went into the final without 2 of our most influential players and 3 others out of position. Plus its a final, winner takes all, nerves, occassion etc etc.

We were again terrific first haLf in Moscow, missed chances then lampalrd scored a comeday goal on the stroke of half time.

The United way is still an entertaining way to play, high intensity play with wingers - nice to watch and we have had great success since Busby with it.

It could still be great if we had the players and the same mindest we had under Fergie, Busby . even that one relegation season and under Docherty we played some wonderful football.

I admit Liverpool play great stuff, but I remember the passing back from Neal, to hughes to clemence etc etc, slow slow build up then the long ball up to Toshack knock down to Keegan etc etc.

20 May 2018 14:56:57
Sepp Blogger -and there we have our problem. tactics, skilful players, big name players, youngsters. makes no difference if the manager is a defence minded coach, the chances of playing attractive, attacking football are very small. and a defence minded coach is very much what we have - he has had a few high scoring seasons in his career, but few and far between.

All the indications are he isn't going to change anytime soon.

20 May 2018 15:03:48
I think it was Evra who said sir alex told him to get the crowd at old Trafford going by getting forward in the early minutes by overlapping the winger and getting a ball into the box. The United way is exciting wingers, high intensity and attacking football. I miss those days.

20 May 2018 15:04:06
That CL was epic, the final we wasn’t so great but won it spectacularly, all the way along we was great to watch in that tournament.

20 May 2018 15:17:40
We can all cherry pick situations to try and make a point. But watching this Man Utd and that Man Utd is a totally different experience.

The old Man Utd had some sort of consideration to the fans desire and giving value for money - the fans had a voice, the club cared about winning, but winning in style.

This Man Utd is 100% focused on finances, performance is irrelevant so long as the financial targets are accomplished (top 4 by hook or by crook) . Such is the world unfortunately, but anybody saying that the garbage Jose is serving up is what Utd are known for around the world is in total denial. This is not what hundreds of millions of people fell in love with.

Furthermore anybody trying to play-down the entertainment value of Utd under SAF for the vast majority of his career with us, needs to take a weekend off and watch a few season compilation DVD's and check themselves! The highlights over the past 5 years wouldn't even make it in the bloopers section, they literally wouldn't waste the film!

20 May 2018 15:27:38
the united way isn't a formation or a tactic.

The united way in a word is to "believe"

Believe in youth, believe you can win at all times against anyone even if you are the under dogs, believe you can score a 95th minute equaliser or winner, believe your striker will control the ball so you make a run, believe you can thread a ball between 2 players so you don't pass it 5 yards sideways,

SAF didn't use the same tactics or formation every game for 26 years. SAF could be as pragmatic as anyone when it was needed.

But when SAF was pragmatic it was only normally in the big games and not against West ham in a dead rubber game and his pragmatism wasnt just how do I stop the opposition it was how do I stop them and exploit their weaknesses.

SAF didn't always get it right no one does but the intent was always there it was always positive.

He wouldn't be bashing rashford in public saying all the things he does wrong, he would be positive saying the things he does well but there are areas he can work on to be great even if SAF didn't believe it he would big players up make them believe that they can, not make them believe they can't by throwing them under the bus.

20 May 2018 15:36:44
We have certainly had some entertaining sides, no question, and this one is not. We had the most money and the best premier league manager. Before that we also had a quarter of a century in the wilderness playing the United way. But along the way the league changed from being predominantly British, and then northern European, to being truly international in its make up regarding players and ownership. The structural advantage United had has now disappeared. Tactics have changed too. So my question remains, what does the United way mean in terms of football today? Is it playing like City or perhaps Liverpool who scored 16 more goals than us but finished behind us in the league while making it to the Champions League final?

It's the age old debate. Is winning or style more important? With the players at our disposal and the ones we have been able to acquire 3 successive managers have been have felt constrained by the conundrum of either sacrificing attack to protect a less than convincing defence, or sacrificing a potential champions league spot by committing too far forward with players who are not Ronaldo, Rooney and Beckham and are not going to capitalize to the same extent on their opportunities.

{Ed001's Note - you have not had managers who have felt constrained. You have had 3 successive managers who have played the same way throughout their careers. Nothing to do with the players at their disposal, they played the same way everywhere they went.}

20 May 2018 16:18:26
Said in a post the other day I think Ed, baffling why a club with out history and style, ethos etc have then gone and appointed 3 successive mangers as far away from our ethos you can get.

{Ed001's Note - it is an odd set of choices.}

20 May 2018 17:15:39
Because Woodward is a finance expert not a football expert. Same as he chases signing who can sell merchandise but don't fit what's needed.

20 May 2018 18:50:56
Schnauzer, very good post, I agree with everything you say.







 

 

 
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