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16 Mar 2018 23:25:57
Maybe this won't be popular but I recall joining this site about 8 years ago and couldn't believe the arrogance, the expectation that we would just carry on being at the top, always winning. I remember writing about our arrogance, our presumption of our "natural" position. Then I remember when SAF left those 11 points we won the league by were insurmountable on here, all utter arrogance.

I read Mourinho's transcript and you know what, it's true. We have sat around for years thinking we were at the top table, sneering at the others, when actually it's been sporadic we have been up there and not for some time. We are and have been kidding ourselves. All this beautiful football tripe, it's arrogance. Even under SAF we rarely breathed that rarified atmosphere the Bayern's, Barca's and Madrid's breathed, we thought we did but went out when it mattered. It's a harsh truth but it needed saying, we have not had the burning desire, the determination or sat at that top table for a long time, if ever. It's our position, we have become the scousers of the nineties with our sense of entitlement. It's about time something shook us out before the clock clicks to ten, fifteen years. We can't click our fingers and everything changes, we have been dreaming, dreaming of the United way. It got us 3 Champions leagues, watching the Arsenal game, Milan have what 7 European cups? Reality is we have been small time in Europe, because of our own arrogance, self importance attitude. The Babes would have won us many, but with deep regret they didn't. We have that sense of being short changed, that sense of unfairness, something taken away. It's time to set our stall out, the mentality to win not once but repeatedly and if Jose can do that it's about time. The man wins, we have lacked that mentality through all levels of the club since SAF and to be honest his shop steward mentality, his old ways didn't bring the success in Europe it should have done.

No you won't like the above, but maybe it is the wake up call we needed. Maybe the football needs to improve but we need to work to achieve what we want, it won't be given to us and we have flattered to deceive for too many years.

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16 Mar 2018 23:58:46
I think Jose told a few harsh truths recently that won't go down well with many of our fans.

Good post red man.

17 Mar 2018 00:12:45
How does parking the bus help this Red Man?

17 Mar 2018 01:14:01
Yes, we have been miles off the top table in Europe for years but that is no excuse for the underperforming, subordinate approach and style of play this egomaniac has been delivering for a sustained period.
The guy has basically talked down the team and club to justify and defend his own means and reputation. It isn't on.

17 Mar 2018 01:54:31
great post red man.

17 Mar 2018 06:01:59
It's really amazing what blind fanboyism can do to people. I remember a certain ex Everton manager telling us that we need to aspire to be like city, people were baying for his blood when he said that, there was another manager from the other Mersey side club who went on a similar "FACHTS" rant and most utd fans couldn't stop laughing at it.

Now the shoe is in the other foot and suddenly a similar rant is the cold hard truth and arrogance and most laughable of all it is apparently passion.

There was a post by someone quoting ozil's autobiography telling us how mourinho said things post Sevilla to take pressure off the team and protect players and yet 2 days after that here he is telling us that it isn't his fault because city have inherited a better team and he has inherited rubbish.


This are not truth or passion or anything such, this is usual nonsense from a man who has a history of blaming everyone but himself for his own failures.

Also when he went on the history rant yesterday the question was why couldn't you beat Sevilla his answer was because city have a better team and utd have been rubbish in Europe.

This is now considered truth apparently.

17 Mar 2018 06:30:58
Red Man, good post and he did indeed bring a dose of reality to the table. Sadly, this will deflect from his own short comings; we are all now realising he has a point and not talking about the pathetic display against Seville¡ the parking the bus at Anfield when we were flying.

Here’s a question for the Jose fans. Why have we got progressively worse as the season has progressed? Scoring fewer, dropping more points? Something ain’t right.

17 Mar 2018 07:21:47
We are man United we should be arrogant just like Munich Barcelona and Madrid.

17 Mar 2018 08:41:46
In this life I don't believe anyone has a right to be arrogant.

17 Mar 2018 08:52:10
Madrid have gone through 13 managers in 15 year
Munich 11 managers in 14 years .
Barce 8 in 13 year .
High standards them boys.

17 Mar 2018 11:13:50
Sure but arrogance?

17 Mar 2018 19:25:12
Angle
90% of top sportsmen are you need that belief.

17 Mar 2018 19:39:35
RedMan. All well writing all that and to be honest all of us knew that United have underachieved in Europe. It doesn't take a genius to work that out. The Scousers remind us of the 5 times they've won it. So we don't need mourinho to rubbing insult into injury.
How is that supposed to motivate the players? How is that supposed to get the fans onside and excited?
And more importantly, what is the great Mourinho doing about it? Not a lot. FACT!







 

 

 
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